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Fri Dec-09-11 05:11 AM
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Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 05:13 AM by orpupilofnature57
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| -1,534,414 gun background checks done in November. On target for 16 million in 2011!! |
Logical |
Dec-07-11 06:07 PM |
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Guns ? " Good Guys " ? Assault weapons are not Guns for sport . Agreed? |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-07-11 06:13 PM |
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I disagree... |
IamK |
Dec-07-11 06:16 PM |
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I suppose. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-07-11 06:47 PM |
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REALLY? |
Callisto32 |
Dec-08-11 06:46 AM |
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No |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:25 AM |
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So you don't suppose. |
Callisto32 |
Dec-09-11 02:34 PM |
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Got me |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 04:15 PM |
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There's no substantial difference between an "assault weapon" and a "non-assault-weapon." nt |
TheWraith |
Dec-07-11 06:20 PM |
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Besides intent ,capability. nt |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-07-11 06:45 PM |
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Oh, cut the crap. |
Dr_Scholl |
Dec-07-11 07:02 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Dec-07-11 07:06 PM |
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Abuse, rejection of commonly used technical terms, and no answer to the question asked. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Dec-07-11 08:15 PM |
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Thanks , the tea was great ,I still hate 2nd Amendment Paranoia |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:15 AM |
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My AR's and mini do the same thing. the safety on the AR is much better IMHO. |
ileus |
Dec-07-11 08:11 PM |
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The problem is not with the definition "assault weapon" |
Remmah2 |
Dec-08-11 08:02 AM |
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I agree ,my problem is Gun Rights that are opposed to Peoples Rights |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:28 AM |
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How do you figure? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-09-11 08:30 AM |
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In 1791 it was a necessity ,now it's infringement on well-being. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 06:05 AM |
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sorry for the rant. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:11 AM |
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Difference between apathy and ignorance is easy to explain... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-09-11 08:32 AM |
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Not legally available, or nonexistent in the US ? |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 04:15 PM |
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Full auto AK's are available, price does not include the $200 tax |
oneshooter |
Dec-09-11 08:11 PM |
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Thanks |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 05:43 AM |
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As far as intent, the musket was an "assault weapon"... |
Marengo |
Dec-07-11 07:58 PM |
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Which must of seemed light years ahead of the catapult ,Whats your point ? |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:30 AM |
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Insubstantial terms, defined in your own head, which do not make a weapon "super extra lethal." nt |
TheWraith |
Dec-07-11 09:01 PM |
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It's capability ,and who's shooting does. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:31 AM |
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Intent.... |
Callisto32 |
Dec-08-11 06:47 AM |
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Intent is in the mind of the user |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-08-11 08:25 AM |
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I paint them with the same brush ,Toys that kill. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:25 AM |
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Well that's your problem isn't it? n/t |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-09-11 08:33 AM |
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Capability, there really isn't (most are somewhat less powerful than... |
SteveM |
Dec-08-11 04:28 PM |
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We can't police peoples minds ,just their modes of murder. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 05:23 AM |
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The mode matters not a whit to the victim. Dead is dead. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Dec-09-11 11:43 AM |
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And what "modes" do you propose for policing?... |
SteveM |
Dec-09-11 03:37 PM |
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Shrub helped you people out there. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 04:17 PM |
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"you people" is who, now? |
SteveM |
Dec-09-11 06:01 PM |
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You people that split hairs on WMD. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-09-11 07:14 PM |
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By your metric, Iraq was and is full of "WMD"- not by mine, of course. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Dec-09-11 09:50 PM |
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Cling to that metric lie ,how many times a day is an ignition turned? |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 05:41 AM |
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What bans did Bush lift? N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-10-11 06:38 AM |
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How did he do that? N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-10-11 06:37 AM |
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By promoting the wolf at the edge of the forest ,whilst hiding the beast in the middle |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 08:12 AM |
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What does that non-answer have to do with assault weapons? N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-10-11 09:55 AM |
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Please point out the "sport" provision in the Second Amendment. |
PavePusher |
Dec-07-11 06:47 PM |
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Dec-07-11 07:03 PM |
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The number of Bullets that can be fired in a 3 second span ,now before you gild that lily |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 06:09 AM |
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Every semi auto has about the same rate of fire in 3 seconds. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-12-11 08:52 AM |
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By "assault weapons" are you referring to AR-15 platforms? |
oneshooter |
Dec-08-11 08:20 AM |
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Nope, not agreed. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-08-11 08:24 AM |
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No I wouldn't. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 08:16 AM |
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Still waiting for a coherent answer. n/t |
PavePusher |
Dec-08-11 10:04 AM |
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Not agreed... |
SteveM |
Dec-08-11 04:25 PM |
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Still waiting..... |
PavePusher |
Dec-08-11 10:46 PM |
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shoot'em if you got'em...... n/t |
IamK |
Dec-07-11 06:14 PM |
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RIP |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-07-11 07:16 PM |
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I'm not sure Democrats are fighting it all that much |
tularetom |
Dec-07-11 06:31 PM |
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I take issue with your last sentence. |
WHEN CRABS ROAR |
Dec-07-11 06:41 PM |
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"Nobody is coming for your guns." |
PavePusher |
Dec-07-11 06:48 PM |
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National Redneck Association has always been paranoid. ,lack of socialization. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-07-11 07:08 PM |
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What other segment of the 99 percent do you detest? |
gejohnston |
Dec-07-11 07:26 PM |
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Flea=baggers too. Who are you?you |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-08-11 05:09 AM |
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O.K., you'll have to unpack that a bit more. Some of us have had a long day. n/t |
PavePusher |
Dec-07-11 09:25 PM |
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Not too tired to push paranoia of stalinist plots or as Always, abolishing the 2nd. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-08-11 05:14 AM |
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I think "National Reprobate's Association" is more appropriate |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 08:17 AM |
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Thank you,, I'm a space case. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 08:07 AM |
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Well, I thought you might want to discuss the question you raised. Sorry.nt |
SteveM |
Dec-08-11 04:32 PM |
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All the evidence? But not much common sense to back that up. |
WHEN CRABS ROAR |
Dec-07-11 11:27 PM |
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I own guns I have a concealed carry permit I am just |
doc03 |
Dec-07-11 07:44 PM |
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I am also against the NRA! They are a right wing group of nuts! |
Logical |
Dec-07-11 07:55 PM |
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I don't think a week passes that one of my friends that |
doc03 |
Dec-07-11 08:11 PM |
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Paranoia |
TheCowsCameHome |
Dec-07-11 08:15 PM |
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Great points, and now they are saying Obama is just waiting for 2016 to ban all guns.... |
Logical |
Dec-07-11 08:17 PM |
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They use the same techniques as the various Brady orgs. - but they're better at it. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Dec-07-11 08:32 PM |
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That's the latest Wayne LaPierre vast left wing conspiracy |
doc03 |
Dec-07-11 08:40 PM |
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So true, no message is delivered without asking for money! |
Logical |
Dec-07-11 08:54 PM |
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I am a member of the NRA but I don't get those e-mails. Why not? N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-10-11 06:43 AM |
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1865 SYNDROME!!!!!!! And thats it a yen for antebellum . |
orpupilofnature57 |
Dec-10-11 08:10 AM |
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self delete |
gejohnston |
Dec-07-11 09:01 PM |
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can you please provide a link that demonstrates that the reduction in crime is due to more guns |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 05:42 AM |
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Settin up that old strawman again eh? |
Callisto32 |
Dec-08-11 06:53 AM |
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Fundamental Christianity has been on the rise - how do you know that is not |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 07:44 AM |
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You are asking for proof to a claim THAT NO-ONE MADE. |
PavePusher |
Dec-08-11 08:08 AM |
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it was certainly implied, now wasn't it |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 08:09 AM |
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No it was not implied |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-08-11 08:27 AM |
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of couse it was implied |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 09:32 AM |
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People who actually look at the data and think. n/t |
PavePusher |
Dec-08-11 10:03 AM |
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and what conclusion would they derive? |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 10:12 AM |
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The conclusion which has been pointed out time and time again.... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-08-11 10:27 AM |
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could you please post a link supporting that |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 10:28 AM |
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Uh - look upthread |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-08-11 10:33 AM |
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the drop in crime is obviously based on multiple factors |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 11:27 AM |
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Dec-08-11 01:31 PM |
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ok - so crime is going down - gun sales are going up |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 03:09 PM |
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"Show that guns are not producing more crime..." That's not what you asked originally |
friendly_iconoclast |
Dec-08-11 03:27 PM |
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obviously the relationship between crime and gun sales, that |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 03:58 PM |
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If a decrease has occured |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-08-11 04:26 PM |
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that is akin to saying |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 04:41 PM |
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Not QUITE. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-09-11 04:11 PM |
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ok - so your claim is that |
DrDan |
Dec-10-11 04:36 AM |
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let me restate the calorie example like this . . . |
DrDan |
Dec-10-11 05:39 AM |
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now, you've implied dismissal of your own Straw Man! jeeez. nt |
SteveM |
Dec-08-11 04:36 PM |
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Not implied at all, just disproving the "More guns=More crimes" meme. nt |
SteveM |
Dec-08-11 04:34 PM |
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"disproving"??????????????? |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 04:43 PM |
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Would you prefer "the more guns=more crime" contention be manifestly unproven? |
SteveM |
Dec-09-11 03:39 PM |
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No, THIS IS WHAT WAS IMPLIED: |
Callisto32 |
Dec-09-11 11:44 AM |
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Thanks for....proving my point....while simultaneously missing it entirely. |
Callisto32 |
Dec-09-11 11:43 AM |
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enjoy your delusion |
DrDan |
Dec-09-11 02:29 PM |
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I said we can't know the cause with certainty... |
Callisto32 |
Dec-09-11 03:13 PM |
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let me make sure I understand your point (seriously) |
DrDan |
Dec-10-11 04:32 AM |
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16 million more guns! You'd think |
montanto |
Dec-08-11 11:10 AM |
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Weird isn't it? It is almost like more guns do not mean more crime. Hmmmm |
Logical |
Dec-08-11 11:21 AM |
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any studies to substantiate that? |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 11:42 AM |
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The proof that guns cause more crime is your deal! |
Logical |
Dec-08-11 11:52 AM |
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you seem to be implying they do not raise the rate - or am I misreading your post |
DrDan |
Dec-08-11 12:40 PM |
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My claim is more guns do not equal more crime. Not more guns equals less crime. |
Logical |
Dec-08-11 04:50 PM |
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They don't. You didn't. |
montanto |
Dec-08-11 05:17 PM |
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Certainly nothing like you'd expect fom listening to the anti- |
montanto |
Dec-08-11 05:02 PM |
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The 16 million number does not necessarily |
burf |
Dec-08-11 12:24 PM |
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Yeah, I get that. |
montanto |
Dec-08-11 05:16 PM |
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In some states a CCW can be shown and no background check is needed. |
GreenStormCloud |
Dec-10-11 06:48 AM |
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