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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 02:33 PM
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67. Hoyt, you really can't honestly deal with the questions you yourself raise. nt
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  -AG says illegal gun show sales commonplace We_Have_A_Problem  Dec-06-11 01:54 PM   #0 
  - You mean to tell me  burf   Dec-06-11 02:06 PM   #1 
  - "Entrapment, Entrapment" -- they made me sell guns to people who said they can't pass BG check.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 02:09 PM   #2 
  - You missed the facts again Hoyt...  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-06-11 02:31 PM   #5 
  - When someone is at a gun show -- IT SHOULD BE REQUIRED. There's the loophole you guys deny.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 03:41 PM   #11 
  - What you believe it should be...  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-06-11 03:53 PM   #14 
  - only 35 bucks?  gejohnston   Dec-06-11 04:07 PM   #18 
  - Then there's the whole thing...  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-06-11 04:14 PM   #20 
  - That's one of the things people call a "loophole" . . . . . . because the law needs to be changed.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 11:10 PM   #50 
  - So, for less than $100, you are opposed to requiring involvement of FFLs? Besides,  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 08:02 PM   #39 
  - Poll tax, much? n/t  PavePusher   Dec-07-11 11:40 AM   #64 
  - My FFL charges $20 for a transfer.  Callisto32   Dec-07-11 07:54 AM   #57 
     - 15$ here. 10$ if you have a Texas CHL. n/t  oneshooter   Dec-07-11 08:51 AM   #60 
        - That's pretty awesome.  Callisto32   Dec-07-11 09:30 AM   #62 
  - It's not a fucking "loophole", it's a specific construction of fucking law.  PavePusher   Dec-06-11 04:57 PM   #23 
  - Pave, however you want to characterize it -call it Hoyt Crap if you like- No BG sales are wrong.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 08:04 PM   #40 
     - Then get the law changed so we are ALLOWED and COMPELLED to do them.  PavePusher   Dec-07-11 11:39 AM   #63 
  - You could not have sold them  one-eyed fat man   Dec-06-11 07:39 PM   #33 
     - One-eye, I chose to do better than the law by having FFL involved on both ends.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 08:06 PM   #41 
        - I- w-i-l-l-- t-y-p-e---s-l-o-w-e-r  one-eyed fat man   Dec-06-11 09:02 PM   #44 
           - Yes, there is a reason, so I don't have to worry about doing something wrong or it not  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 09:08 PM   #46 
              - You really don't pay attention do you?  one-eyed fat man   Dec-06-11 10:18 PM   #48 
                 - No, OShooter, you aren't paying attention.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 11:08 PM   #49 
  - Huh? re ur FACTS  russ1943   Dec-06-11 05:54 PM   #25 
     - It's a different legal construct  Euromutt   Dec-06-11 06:40 PM   #26 
     - The point is.  russ1943   Dec-06-11 07:55 PM   #36 
        - Yes, that IS the point  Euromutt   Dec-07-11 12:33 AM   #51 
     - Why don't you talk to your Congressman and get what is broken fixed.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 08:11 PM   #42 
  - Pole vaulting over mouse turds.  one-eyed fat man   Dec-06-11 02:33 PM   #6 
  - Its an epidemic I tell ya!  burf   Dec-06-11 03:14 PM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 03:43 PM   #12 
  - Now you accuse us of illegally transferring firearms?  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-06-11 03:54 PM   #15 
     - The article you referenced in your OP says otherwise, in New York.  russ1943   Dec-06-11 07:22 PM   #30 
     - You seem to overlook and totally ignore the simple fact that they SHOULD BE.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 08:12 PM   #43 
        - It is not a fact that it should be  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-07-11 12:29 PM   #66 
  - But-but-but...  PavePusher   Dec-06-11 05:11 PM   #24 
  - Entrapment defense  one-eyed fat man   Dec-07-11 08:25 AM   #59 
  - Is this the same AG that said he knew nothing of Fast and Furious?  Bum_Whisperer   Dec-06-11 02:16 PM   #3 
  - No, this is the State AG of New York (n/t)  Euromutt   Dec-06-11 06:40 PM   #27 
  - Isn't the goal to always sell stuff for more than it's worth?  ileus   Dec-06-11 02:21 PM   #4 
  - ...and to anyone with the $$$ in hand?  TheCowsCameHome   Dec-06-11 02:38 PM   #7 
     - Pretty much.  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-06-11 02:41 PM   #8 
  - So, when gun shows are regulated out of existence, LEO will swoop down on...  SteveM   Dec-06-11 02:43 PM   #9 
  - All those supposedly law-abiding gun purchasers ain't looking so clean now.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 03:45 PM   #13 
     - Don't look any dirtier to me  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-06-11 03:56 PM   #16 
     - self delete, answer wrong poster.  gejohnston   Dec-06-11 03:57 PM   #17 
     - How do you figure?  gejohnston   Dec-06-11 04:10 PM   #19 
     - And you ain't sounding any smarter either. n/t  oneshooter   Dec-06-11 04:39 PM   #21 
     - How many? -.01%? wow. nt  SteveM   Dec-06-11 04:45 PM   #22 
     - Are you familiar with the word 'aren't  rl6214   Dec-06-11 07:42 PM   #34 
     - Try not to use it when posting to those who must strap a gun on before walking into sunshine.  Hoyt   Dec-06-11 07:56 PM   #37 
        - I don't think you are capable of it  rl6214   Dec-07-11 02:33 AM   #54 
        - Do you have any purpose here  Abq_Sarah   Dec-07-11 05:52 PM   #69 
     - Wow.  Callisto32   Dec-07-11 07:58 AM   #58 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-07-11 09:28 AM   #61 
     - Hoyt, you really can't honestly deal with the questions you yourself raise. nt  SteveM   Dec-07-11 02:33 PM   #67 
  - They were at gunshows in New York State.  russ1943   Dec-06-11 07:05 PM   #28 
  - Wait, if the sales are illegal, then how does "lax regulation allow individuals" etc.?  Euromutt   Dec-06-11 07:09 PM   #29 
  - The article points out it is an enforcement problem.  russ1943   Dec-06-11 07:26 PM   #31 
     - It's against the law to sell dope at a Greatful Dead concert  one-eyed fat man   Dec-06-11 07:54 PM   #35 
     - It is illegal under Federal Law  russ1943   Dec-06-11 09:06 PM   #45 
        - Your post 31  one-eyed fat man   Dec-06-11 09:34 PM   #47 
           - The OP is crap.  russ1943   Dec-07-11 01:44 AM   #53 
              - The news conference was crap  one-eyed fat man   Dec-07-11 03:58 AM   #55 
                 - As far as the news conference and the AGs  burf   Dec-07-11 07:07 AM   #56 
     - That doesn't answer my question.  Euromutt   Dec-06-11 07:58 PM   #38 
        - Enough already.  russ1943   Dec-07-11 01:27 AM   #52 
           - Will the proposed laws be enforced with the same (lack of) vigor as the current ones?  friendly_iconoclast   Dec-07-11 12:20 PM   #65 
           - "...background checks on all sales.." has been discussed before...  SteveM   Dec-07-11 02:48 PM   #68 
  - Do the actions of these "investigators" surprise you?  rl6214   Dec-06-11 07:32 PM   #32 
 

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