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43. I wonder what would have happened.........
....if the unarmed thieves had been stealing a police car instead???
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  -Homeowner opens fire on car burglary suspects oneshooter  Nov-27-11 05:45 PM   #0 
  - Wonder where this will go.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-27-11 06:10 PM   #1 
  - In Texas ?  RSillsbee   Nov-27-11 06:16 PM   #2 
  - Castle Law = legalized murder  jpak   Nov-27-11 07:09 PM   #8 
     - Castle Law = justifiable homicide.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:24 AM   #45 
     - you attitude = crap  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-28-11 05:59 PM   #66 
     - No one cares what you think  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:16 PM   #82 
  - Won't go anywhere.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:07 AM   #36 
  - Going for a gun while committing a felony? Don't waste your stores of curiosity.nt  SteveM   Nov-30-11 01:26 PM   #110 
  - while it doesn't sound like self defense, it is Texas...  rfranklin   Nov-27-11 06:16 PM   #3 
  - That would make two.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-27-11 06:18 PM   #4 
  - Lamenting the demise of thieves?  one-eyed fat man   Nov-27-11 08:32 PM   #21 
  - Texas is so civilized. If you dont want to get shot in Texas, dont piss someone off.  rhett o rick   Nov-27-11 09:28 PM   #25 
  - We're quite civilized.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 10:27 AM   #48 
  - The penality for breaking into a car is death. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 12:10 PM   #52 
     - No, that isn't a legal penalty  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 12:18 PM   #53 
        - Shooting a suspected burgler running away is legal or illegal?  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 04:54 PM   #57 
        - But they were not black, or did you just make that up? n/t  oneshooter   Nov-28-11 04:58 PM   #59 
        - You avoided my question. Is shooting a suspect in the back legal or not? nm  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 05:22 PM   #63 
           - there is no evidence  gejohnston   Nov-28-11 05:57 PM   #65 
           - Is shooting a suspect in the back legal or not? nm  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 07:44 PM   #68 
              - Where is it reported that the suspect was  burf   Nov-30-11 10:35 AM   #102 
           - It is not socially acceptable anywhere  gejohnston   Nov-28-11 06:05 PM   #67 
              - Wait just a min. In this thread there are those that side with the shooter.  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 07:47 PM   #69 
                 - I was objecting to bringing race into it  gejohnston   Nov-28-11 09:59 PM   #70 
                 - Get your shit together........  oneshooter   Nov-28-11 10:00 PM   #71 
                 - In the OP the suspect that was shot was fleeing. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 11:31 PM   #72 
                    - So what?  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-29-11 09:13 AM   #77 
                    - I certainly dont want my neighbors shooting at suspected car burglers. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-29-11 01:58 PM   #79 
                       - What you want your neighbors to do is not relevant.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-29-11 04:16 PM   #81 
                          - Good grief. You argue in circles. I knew I shouldnt venture into "guns".  rhett o rick   Nov-29-11 07:11 PM   #99 
                             - Just because your arguments have zero merit...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-30-11 08:23 AM   #100 
                    - Should have watched the video.  Hangingon   Nov-30-11 11:18 AM   #105 
                 - where does anyone make this claim:  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:24 PM   #86 
                 - Suspects do not get shot  Hangingon   Nov-30-11 11:15 AM   #103 
                    - Apparently to some...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-30-11 11:17 AM   #104 
                    - To protect yourself is justifiable homicide  Starboard Tack   Nov-30-11 09:02 PM   #119 
                       - It isnt murder.  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-01-11 08:01 AM   #120 
                       - Correct. Texas decided to make voluntary manslaughter legal in defense of property.  Starboard Tack   Dec-01-11 03:08 PM   #122 
                          - Not QUITE  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-02-11 08:23 AM   #131 
                             - You and the State of Texas can redefine it as much as you like.  Starboard Tack   Dec-02-11 04:54 PM   #134 
                             - Once again, not true...  We_Have_A_Problem   Dec-05-11 09:34 AM   #135 
                       - Did you miss the part about the driver reaching for a weapon?  ManiacJoe   Dec-01-11 01:47 PM   #121 
                          - No, I saw that the shooter claimed he believed the perp was going for a gun.  Starboard Tack   Dec-01-11 03:33 PM   #123 
                    - Just as I thought. Apparently you consider perps caught in the act are  rhett o rick   Nov-30-11 12:31 PM   #106 
                       - You don't get it do you?  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-30-11 12:47 PM   #107 
                       - Perps caught taking property from a residence or vehicle  Hangingon   Nov-30-11 01:49 PM   #116 
        - It is legal to shoot a burglar as he is running away.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-29-11 09:12 AM   #76 
        - "It's a socially acceptable penalty in Texas, especially if the suspect is black."  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:21 PM   #84 
           - Oh, but it makes his stereotypes so well-rounded. nt  SteveM   Nov-30-11 01:32 PM   #112 
        - It's evolution at work. n/t  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-28-11 05:42 PM   #64 
  - The LBJ ranch is in central Texas, been there a number of times  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:19 PM   #83 
  - Demise, as in being executed?  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-28-11 07:36 AM   #30 
  - It may not be elegant  one-eyed fat man   Nov-28-11 08:17 AM   #34 
  - Yes, seems as if things are kept very simple in Texas. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 04:56 PM   #58 
  - While I doubt he'll be executed  pipoman   Nov-28-11 12:00 AM   #29 
  - Deadly force to protect property TX penal code Sec. 9.42  Hangingon   Nov-27-11 07:45 PM   # 
  - Property, even something like a parked, unoccupied vehcle?  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-27-11 08:04 PM   #17 
     - Pretty fucked up...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:08 AM   #37 
        - Yeah, killing over a theft means nothing in your world.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-28-11 09:13 AM   #40 
           - I never said it meant nothing.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:17 AM   #42 
              - Q: Do you think this guy was right killing a retreating burgular?  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-28-11 10:00 AM   #46 
                 - Thank you so much for making the assumption of what I believe  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 10:23 AM   #47 
  - He'll be charged with felony murder/man-slaughter. Won't be executed...  SteveM   Nov-30-11 01:28 PM   #111 
  - As far as I know, I didn't flunk law class  HockeyMom   Nov-27-11 06:32 PM   #5 
  - each state and country varies  gejohnston   Nov-27-11 06:37 PM   #6 
  - It IS different in Texas - you can kill unarmed suspected burglars in your neighbor's yard  jpak   Nov-27-11 07:11 PM   #9 
  - I don't know where in Texas you have been in but  gejohnston   Nov-27-11 07:45 PM   #11 
  - You left out something  one-eyed fat man   Nov-28-11 11:56 AM   #50 
  - There you go, talking out your ass again  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:31 PM   #89 
  - What's worrisome is most gun carriers know the laws well -- I guess so they know when OK to kill.  Hoyt   Nov-27-11 09:57 PM   #27 
  - What a bundle of nutty nonsense.  Union Scribe   Nov-28-11 07:54 AM   #31 
  - If we don't know the laws well...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-30-11 12:53 PM   #109 
  - Your opening statement was good.  ManiacJoe   Nov-30-11 08:25 PM   #118 
  - Yes, it is different in Texas.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:09 AM   #38 
  - I won't shed any tears for the scumbag who got shot  tularetom   Nov-27-11 06:39 PM   #7 
  - I definitely agree with the text portion.  Hoyt   Nov-27-11 09:59 PM   #28 
  - Sound like police were on time, but the gun wielding neighbor just couldn't resist the opportunity  Hoyt   Nov-27-11 07:31 PM   #10 
  - Got to make sure everything works as advertised  formercia   Nov-27-11 07:51 PM   #13 
  - Wow! Psychological profile of a whole state.  Hangingon   Nov-27-11 07:53 PM   #14 
  - Doesn't matter, the perps weren't a threat to him. Police could have handled it.  Hoyt   Nov-27-11 08:00 PM   #16 
     - It isn't a question of threat under TX law.  Hangingon   Nov-27-11 08:19 PM   #19 
     - Just because the law allows it, does not make it right. Shooting an unarmed or fleeing man is wrong.  Hoyt   Nov-27-11 08:31 PM   #20 
     - What ever  Hangingon   Nov-27-11 08:50 PM   #23 
     - Does it make it wrong when the law explicitly forbids it?  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:11 AM   #39 
     - I am one of those people who feels differently  DWC   Nov-28-11 03:30 PM   #55 
     - "Just because the law allows it, does not make it right."  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:40 PM   #92 
        - I know this works when the law is one you agree with....  PavePusher   Dec-01-11 03:48 PM   #124 
     - It's a matter of manlyness. Got to kill someone to be a man. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-27-11 09:29 PM   #26 
        - I don't know anyone who believes that.  Hangingon   Nov-28-11 01:04 PM   #54 
           - You dont know anyone like that? That have guns and pray that someone will give them an  rhett o rick   Nov-28-11 05:00 PM   #60 
              - That is correct.  Hangingon   Nov-29-11 08:32 AM   #74 
              - Nobody but you, and maybe Hoyt.  oneshooter   Nov-29-11 08:42 AM   #75 
              - Keep your racism to yourself  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-29-11 09:17 AM   #78 
              - so full of crap  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:41 PM   #93 
              - Cite evidence for your vile accusation, or retract it. n/t  PavePusher   Dec-01-11 03:49 PM   #125 
              - is everybody in Seattle as racist as you seem to be? n/t  oneshooter   Dec-01-11 04:22 PM   #127 
     - "Doesn't matter" = "facts don't matter"  Common Sense Party   Nov-29-11 12:20 AM   #73 
     - More of your bullshit shtick  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:38 PM   #91 
        - So, a "showing off" to a girlfriend, who was "Latino," and shot a "black"  SteveM   Nov-30-11 01:40 PM   #113 
  - So, again, the gun turned a "nice person" into a homicidal maniac.  Union Scribe   Nov-28-11 07:56 AM   #32 
  - Making shit up to fit your anti-gun zealotry  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:34 PM   #90 
  - Wow- the author of that article, Sonia Azad, sure can write! Not.  kath   Nov-27-11 07:48 PM   #12 
  - Sounds like one of those grade-school riddles: the man is not a cop, but his child  petronius   Nov-27-11 07:59 PM   #15 
  - I saw that too. But she did spell "gun-wielding" correctly; practice, perhaps? nt  SteveM   Nov-30-11 01:42 PM   #114 
  - He didn't wipe out the other two, therefore  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-27-11 08:07 PM   #18 
  - He could have with a hi cap mag, assault rifle, and red dot. Might have wiped out neighborhood too.  Hoyt   Nov-27-11 08:36 PM   #22 
     - You still haven't figured out what a red dot is, have you?  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:43 PM   #94 
        - Well, I don't know, 'probably sees a lot of dots before his eyes. nt  SteveM   Nov-30-11 01:46 PM   #115 
  - I think shooting someone for property is wrong. And should be illegal. It should.....  Logical   Nov-27-11 09:21 PM   #24 
  - Depends on the property  one-eyed fat man   Nov-28-11 08:14 AM   #33 
  - Yeah, it's just like breaking into a car.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-28-11 08:30 AM   #35 
     - As One-eyed Fat Man said, it depends on the property  Euromutt   Dec-02-11 02:48 AM   #128 
  - You're welcome to think and feel that way.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:13 AM   #41 
  - Well stated.  Hangingon   Nov-28-11 11:32 AM   #49 
  - Thank you.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 12:02 PM   #51 
  - I would call you extreme. And killing to save money sounds really lame. But you  Logical   Nov-28-11 04:49 PM   #56 
     - How about killing to protect a livelihood?  hack89   Nov-29-11 04:04 PM   #80 
     - Obviously...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-29-11 04:22 PM   #85 
     - "But you are a Texan and I understand how they think down there"  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:45 PM   #95 
  - This discussion has been had here many times, but I'll post a synopsis again:  PavePusher   Dec-01-11 04:01 PM   #126 
  - I wonder what would have happened.........  Remmah2   Nov-28-11 09:21 AM   #43 
  - Probably the same thing...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-28-11 09:23 AM   #44 
  - Doesn't seem to help Texas's Motor Vehicle Crime rate per 100,000 so maybe the crooks....  Logical   Nov-28-11 05:02 PM   #61 
  - And your point is....?  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-29-11 04:25 PM   #87 
  - Most of the vehicle thefts in the state end up in Mexico  rl6214   Nov-29-11 04:48 PM   #96 
     - Good point.  Logical   Nov-29-11 05:17 PM   #97 
  - Dulicate post , self delete  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-28-11 05:03 PM   # 
  - Someone ought to ask the shooter  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-28-11 05:03 PM   #62 
  - Probably changed pretty profoundly...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-29-11 04:31 PM   #88 
     - Depnds on your definition of "get over it"  RSillsbee   Nov-29-11 06:55 PM   #98 
        - By "get over it"  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-30-11 12:50 PM   #108 
        - About That "This Is Really Getting Old" Thread You Opened Recently.  Paladin   Dec-02-11 08:00 AM   #129 
           - "you people " sounds so progressive. n/t  oneshooter   Dec-02-11 08:42 AM   #132 
           - That has got to be one of the most insincere expressions of "concern" yet seen here.  friendly_iconoclast   Dec-02-11 12:17 PM   #133 
  - Sounds justified, imo  chrisa   Nov-30-11 10:10 AM   #101 
  - "...saw one of them reach for a weapon..." was in the text...  SteveM   Nov-30-11 01:52 PM   #117 
  - Another great example of why SD firearms are so important to society.  ileus   Dec-02-11 08:12 AM   #130 

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