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| Homeowner opens fire on car burglary suspects |
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HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Police say a homeowner shot and killed one of three men he caught breaking into his car on Houston's south side early this morning. Police said the homeowner saw three suspects stealing from a car outside his house and he repeatedly yelled for them to stop. He said the three men had the car doors and trunk open, and were rummaging through. The suspects didn't comply, so the homeowner went to get his gun. The homeowner told police the suspects began to run back to their vehicle, but said he saw one of them reach for a weapon, so he started shooting, striking the driver of the suspects' vehicle. Video here: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id... Case will go to a Grand Jury. Oneshooter Armed and Livin in Texas
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| -Homeowner opens fire on car burglary suspects |
oneshooter |
Nov-27-11 05:45 PM |
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Wonder where this will go. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-27-11 06:10 PM |
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In Texas ? |
RSillsbee |
Nov-27-11 06:16 PM |
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Castle Law = legalized murder |
jpak |
Nov-27-11 07:09 PM |
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Castle Law = justifiable homicide. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:24 AM |
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you attitude = crap |
discntnt_irny_srcsm |
Nov-28-11 05:59 PM |
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No one cares what you think |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:16 PM |
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Won't go anywhere. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:07 AM |
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Going for a gun while committing a felony? Don't waste your stores of curiosity.nt |
SteveM |
Nov-30-11 01:26 PM |
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while it doesn't sound like self defense, it is Texas... |
rfranklin |
Nov-27-11 06:16 PM |
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That would make two. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-27-11 06:18 PM |
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Lamenting the demise of thieves? |
one-eyed fat man |
Nov-27-11 08:32 PM |
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Texas is so civilized. If you dont want to get shot in Texas, dont piss someone off. |
rhett o rick |
Nov-27-11 09:28 PM |
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We're quite civilized. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 10:27 AM |
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The penality for breaking into a car is death. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 12:10 PM |
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No, that isn't a legal penalty |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 12:18 PM |
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Shooting a suspected burgler running away is legal or illegal? |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 04:54 PM |
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But they were not black, or did you just make that up? n/t |
oneshooter |
Nov-28-11 04:58 PM |
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You avoided my question. Is shooting a suspect in the back legal or not? nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 05:22 PM |
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there is no evidence |
gejohnston |
Nov-28-11 05:57 PM |
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Is shooting a suspect in the back legal or not? nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 07:44 PM |
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Where is it reported that the suspect was |
burf |
Nov-30-11 10:35 AM |
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It is not socially acceptable anywhere |
gejohnston |
Nov-28-11 06:05 PM |
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Wait just a min. In this thread there are those that side with the shooter. |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 07:47 PM |
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I was objecting to bringing race into it |
gejohnston |
Nov-28-11 09:59 PM |
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Get your shit together........ |
oneshooter |
Nov-28-11 10:00 PM |
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In the OP the suspect that was shot was fleeing. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 11:31 PM |
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So what? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-29-11 09:13 AM |
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I certainly dont want my neighbors shooting at suspected car burglers. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-29-11 01:58 PM |
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What you want your neighbors to do is not relevant. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-29-11 04:16 PM |
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Good grief. You argue in circles. I knew I shouldnt venture into "guns". |
rhett o rick |
Nov-29-11 07:11 PM |
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Just because your arguments have zero merit... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-30-11 08:23 AM |
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Should have watched the video. |
Hangingon |
Nov-30-11 11:18 AM |
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where does anyone make this claim: |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:24 PM |
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Suspects do not get shot |
Hangingon |
Nov-30-11 11:15 AM |
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Apparently to some... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-30-11 11:17 AM |
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To protect yourself is justifiable homicide |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-30-11 09:02 PM |
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It isnt murder. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-01-11 08:01 AM |
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Correct. Texas decided to make voluntary manslaughter legal in defense of property. |
Starboard Tack |
Dec-01-11 03:08 PM |
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Not QUITE |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-02-11 08:23 AM |
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You and the State of Texas can redefine it as much as you like. |
Starboard Tack |
Dec-02-11 04:54 PM |
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Once again, not true... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Dec-05-11 09:34 AM |
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Did you miss the part about the driver reaching for a weapon? |
ManiacJoe |
Dec-01-11 01:47 PM |
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No, I saw that the shooter claimed he believed the perp was going for a gun. |
Starboard Tack |
Dec-01-11 03:33 PM |
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Just as I thought. Apparently you consider perps caught in the act are |
rhett o rick |
Nov-30-11 12:31 PM |
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You don't get it do you? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-30-11 12:47 PM |
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Perps caught taking property from a residence or vehicle |
Hangingon |
Nov-30-11 01:49 PM |
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It is legal to shoot a burglar as he is running away. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-29-11 09:12 AM |
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"It's a socially acceptable penalty in Texas, especially if the suspect is black." |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:21 PM |
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Oh, but it makes his stereotypes so well-rounded. nt |
SteveM |
Nov-30-11 01:32 PM |
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It's evolution at work. n/t |
discntnt_irny_srcsm |
Nov-28-11 05:42 PM |
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The LBJ ranch is in central Texas, been there a number of times |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:19 PM |
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Demise, as in being executed? |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-28-11 07:36 AM |
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It may not be elegant |
one-eyed fat man |
Nov-28-11 08:17 AM |
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Yes, seems as if things are kept very simple in Texas. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 04:56 PM |
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While I doubt he'll be executed |
pipoman |
Nov-28-11 12:00 AM |
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Deadly force to protect property TX penal code Sec. 9.42 |
Hangingon |
Nov-27-11 07:45 PM |
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Property, even something like a parked, unoccupied vehcle? |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-27-11 08:04 PM |
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Pretty fucked up... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:08 AM |
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Yeah, killing over a theft means nothing in your world. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-28-11 09:13 AM |
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I never said it meant nothing. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:17 AM |
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Q: Do you think this guy was right killing a retreating burgular? |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-28-11 10:00 AM |
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Thank you so much for making the assumption of what I believe |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 10:23 AM |
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He'll be charged with felony murder/man-slaughter. Won't be executed... |
SteveM |
Nov-30-11 01:28 PM |
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As far as I know, I didn't flunk law class |
HockeyMom |
Nov-27-11 06:32 PM |
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each state and country varies |
gejohnston |
Nov-27-11 06:37 PM |
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It IS different in Texas - you can kill unarmed suspected burglars in your neighbor's yard |
jpak |
Nov-27-11 07:11 PM |
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I don't know where in Texas you have been in but |
gejohnston |
Nov-27-11 07:45 PM |
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You left out something |
one-eyed fat man |
Nov-28-11 11:56 AM |
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There you go, talking out your ass again |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:31 PM |
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What's worrisome is most gun carriers know the laws well -- I guess so they know when OK to kill. |
Hoyt |
Nov-27-11 09:57 PM |
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What a bundle of nutty nonsense. |
Union Scribe |
Nov-28-11 07:54 AM |
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If we don't know the laws well... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-30-11 12:53 PM |
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Your opening statement was good. |
ManiacJoe |
Nov-30-11 08:25 PM |
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Yes, it is different in Texas. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:09 AM |
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I won't shed any tears for the scumbag who got shot |
tularetom |
Nov-27-11 06:39 PM |
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I definitely agree with the text portion. |
Hoyt |
Nov-27-11 09:59 PM |
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Sound like police were on time, but the gun wielding neighbor just couldn't resist the opportunity |
Hoyt |
Nov-27-11 07:31 PM |
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Got to make sure everything works as advertised |
formercia |
Nov-27-11 07:51 PM |
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Wow! Psychological profile of a whole state. |
Hangingon |
Nov-27-11 07:53 PM |
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Doesn't matter, the perps weren't a threat to him. Police could have handled it. |
Hoyt |
Nov-27-11 08:00 PM |
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It isn't a question of threat under TX law. |
Hangingon |
Nov-27-11 08:19 PM |
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Just because the law allows it, does not make it right. Shooting an unarmed or fleeing man is wrong. |
Hoyt |
Nov-27-11 08:31 PM |
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What ever |
Hangingon |
Nov-27-11 08:50 PM |
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Does it make it wrong when the law explicitly forbids it? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:11 AM |
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I am one of those people who feels differently |
DWC |
Nov-28-11 03:30 PM |
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"Just because the law allows it, does not make it right." |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:40 PM |
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I know this works when the law is one you agree with.... |
PavePusher |
Dec-01-11 03:48 PM |
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It's a matter of manlyness. Got to kill someone to be a man. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-27-11 09:29 PM |
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I don't know anyone who believes that. |
Hangingon |
Nov-28-11 01:04 PM |
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You dont know anyone like that? That have guns and pray that someone will give them an |
rhett o rick |
Nov-28-11 05:00 PM |
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That is correct. |
Hangingon |
Nov-29-11 08:32 AM |
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Nobody but you, and maybe Hoyt. |
oneshooter |
Nov-29-11 08:42 AM |
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Keep your racism to yourself |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-29-11 09:17 AM |
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so full of crap |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:41 PM |
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Cite evidence for your vile accusation, or retract it. n/t |
PavePusher |
Dec-01-11 03:49 PM |
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is everybody in Seattle as racist as you seem to be? n/t |
oneshooter |
Dec-01-11 04:22 PM |
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"Doesn't matter" = "facts don't matter" |
Common Sense Party |
Nov-29-11 12:20 AM |
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More of your bullshit shtick |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:38 PM |
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So, a "showing off" to a girlfriend, who was "Latino," and shot a "black" |
SteveM |
Nov-30-11 01:40 PM |
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So, again, the gun turned a "nice person" into a homicidal maniac. |
Union Scribe |
Nov-28-11 07:56 AM |
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Making shit up to fit your anti-gun zealotry |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:34 PM |
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Wow- the author of that article, Sonia Azad, sure can write! Not. |
kath |
Nov-27-11 07:48 PM |
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Sounds like one of those grade-school riddles: the man is not a cop, but his child |
petronius |
Nov-27-11 07:59 PM |
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I saw that too. But she did spell "gun-wielding" correctly; practice, perhaps? nt |
SteveM |
Nov-30-11 01:42 PM |
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He didn't wipe out the other two, therefore |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-27-11 08:07 PM |
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He could have with a hi cap mag, assault rifle, and red dot. Might have wiped out neighborhood too. |
Hoyt |
Nov-27-11 08:36 PM |
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You still haven't figured out what a red dot is, have you? |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:43 PM |
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Well, I don't know, 'probably sees a lot of dots before his eyes. nt |
SteveM |
Nov-30-11 01:46 PM |
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I think shooting someone for property is wrong. And should be illegal. It should..... |
Logical |
Nov-27-11 09:21 PM |
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Depends on the property |
one-eyed fat man |
Nov-28-11 08:14 AM |
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Yeah, it's just like breaking into a car. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-28-11 08:30 AM |
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As One-eyed Fat Man said, it depends on the property |
Euromutt |
Dec-02-11 02:48 AM |
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You're welcome to think and feel that way. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:13 AM |
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Well stated. |
Hangingon |
Nov-28-11 11:32 AM |
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Thank you. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 12:02 PM |
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I would call you extreme. And killing to save money sounds really lame. But you |
Logical |
Nov-28-11 04:49 PM |
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How about killing to protect a livelihood? |
hack89 |
Nov-29-11 04:04 PM |
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Obviously... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-29-11 04:22 PM |
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"But you are a Texan and I understand how they think down there" |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:45 PM |
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This discussion has been had here many times, but I'll post a synopsis again: |
PavePusher |
Dec-01-11 04:01 PM |
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I wonder what would have happened......... |
Remmah2 |
Nov-28-11 09:21 AM |
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Probably the same thing... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-28-11 09:23 AM |
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Doesn't seem to help Texas's Motor Vehicle Crime rate per 100,000 so maybe the crooks.... |
Logical |
Nov-28-11 05:02 PM |
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And your point is....? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-29-11 04:25 PM |
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Most of the vehicle thefts in the state end up in Mexico |
rl6214 |
Nov-29-11 04:48 PM |
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Good point. |
Logical |
Nov-29-11 05:17 PM |
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Dulicate post , self delete |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-28-11 05:03 PM |
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Someone ought to ask the shooter |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-28-11 05:03 PM |
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Probably changed pretty profoundly... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-29-11 04:31 PM |
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Depnds on your definition of "get over it" |
RSillsbee |
Nov-29-11 06:55 PM |
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By "get over it" |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-30-11 12:50 PM |
#108 |
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About That "This Is Really Getting Old" Thread You Opened Recently. |
Paladin |
Dec-02-11 08:00 AM |
#129 |
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"you people " sounds so progressive. n/t |
oneshooter |
Dec-02-11 08:42 AM |
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That has got to be one of the most insincere expressions of "concern" yet seen here. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Dec-02-11 12:17 PM |
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Sounds justified, imo |
chrisa |
Nov-30-11 10:10 AM |
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"...saw one of them reach for a weapon..." was in the text... |
SteveM |
Nov-30-11 01:52 PM |
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Another great example of why SD firearms are so important to society. |
ileus |
Dec-02-11 08:12 AM |
#130 |
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