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We_Have_A_Problem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-11 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #89
91. Definitely the most effective.
No question there. Just don't want people thinking they're the only ones.
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  -Is It Possible to be PRO RKBA and PROgressive At The Same Time? RSillsbee  Nov-19-11 04:19 PM   #0 
  - I think this post on here confirms what  safeinOhio   Nov-19-11 04:24 PM   #1 
  - I am for the RKBA but wouldn't support the NRA for any reason  doc03   Nov-19-11 04:30 PM   #3 
  - Do support their views on the RKBA?  hack89   Nov-19-11 04:35 PM   #5 
  - I don't have to support a group that is a puppet for the  doc03   Nov-19-11 04:46 PM   #6 
  - But you will happily benefit from their efforts  hack89   Nov-19-11 04:52 PM   #7 
  - Hitler liked cats  safeinOhio   Nov-19-11 04:53 PM   #8 
     - And I really doubt anyone here would vote Republican over guns.  TheWraith   Nov-19-11 04:58 PM   #11 
     - A 2008 DU Gungeon Poll Proves You Wrong.  Paladin   Nov-20-11 10:24 AM   #50 
        - I'm sure you can provide a link, right?  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:22 AM   #76 
        - this forum is an ongoing conversation  iverglas   Nov-21-11 01:31 AM   #77 
        - I asked the author of this statement to provide citation on  Simo 1939_1940   Nov-21-11 03:31 PM   #96 
           - I'll bet you just didn't see my post with the link you demanded  iverglas   Nov-21-11 05:01 PM   #98 
           - oh look, so young and yet so wise  iverglas   Nov-21-11 05:02 PM   #99 
        - One poll from 3 years ago that you dont even link to?  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 08:33 AM   #83 
           - OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE  iverglas   Nov-21-11 08:43 AM   #84 
     - The point was that they are the only group in America standing up for the 2nd amendment  hack89   Nov-19-11 05:00 PM   #13 
     - The point is this fucking thread is not about the NRA  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 05:02 PM   #15 
     - Many would disagree with you  hack89   Nov-19-11 05:10 PM   #22 
     - Many didn't start the fucking thread  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 06:26 PM   #29 
        - Better luck next time. nt  hack89   Nov-19-11 07:04 PM   #31 
     - Agreed. the thread is NOT about the NRA. There are only 4.3 million NRA members ...  spin   Nov-20-11 10:38 AM   #51 
        - Spin please  RSillsbee   Nov-20-11 12:53 PM   #57 
     - and the actual point, to many ...  iverglas   Nov-19-11 09:32 PM   #37 
     - Yea - a bunch of spineless Democrats. But they are slowly coming around. nt  hack89   Nov-19-11 09:43 PM   #38 
     - Actually you left out the most conservative pro-gun group ...  spin   Nov-20-11 10:55 AM   #54 
     - Not the only group...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 08:17 AM   #78 
        - ah, there ya go again  iverglas   Nov-21-11 08:19 AM   #79 
        - And the most effective. nt  hack89   Nov-21-11 09:57 AM   #89 
           - Definitely the most effective.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 10:10 AM   #91 
     - Hitler liked dogs  gejohnston   Nov-19-11 05:05 PM   #18 
  - They also endorse Democrats.  GreenStormCloud   Nov-20-11 02:07 PM   #59 
  - So if you and I see eye to eye on 99 percent of social issues  hack89   Nov-19-11 04:32 PM   #4 
  - If you see eye to eye with me on 99 percent of  safeinOhio   Nov-19-11 04:58 PM   #12 
     - So that one percent is enough to make him what? A tea bagger?  hack89   Nov-19-11 05:06 PM   #19 
  - I didn't mention the NRA at all  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 04:54 PM   #9 
  - That's like saying that if you're in favor of animal rights, you also support PETA.  TheWraith   Nov-19-11 04:54 PM   #10 
     - Nuance is finding some of the things  safeinOhio   Nov-19-11 05:06 PM   #20 
        - I can defend the NRA's position on the 2nd amendment  hack89   Nov-19-11 05:30 PM   #25 
  - Yes it is, but the RKBA says the government trusts the people  doc03   Nov-19-11 04:27 PM   #2 
  - There are 80 million plus gun owners in this country  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 05:04 PM   #16 
  - Don't you think thet are doing enough damage already?  Starboard Tack   Nov-20-11 02:58 PM   #60 
     - has decreased since then  gejohnston   Nov-20-11 03:22 PM   #61 
     - Consider these facts  Starboard Tack   Nov-20-11 06:17 PM   #68 
        - few to none because  gejohnston   Nov-20-11 06:49 PM   #71 
           - Exactly. Now look at the states with the highest suicide rates  Starboard Tack   Nov-20-11 07:14 PM   #72 
              - You should know my first thought by now  gejohnston   Nov-20-11 07:37 PM   #73 
              - We've been around this block before.  Starboard Tack   Nov-22-11 12:13 AM   #104 
              - So what?  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 08:30 AM   #82 
     - Nah - that's criminal behavior, not revolt.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 08:24 AM   #81 
        - Your profound empathy is truly astounding.  Starboard Tack   Nov-21-11 10:27 PM   #102 
           - Empathy and sympathy....  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-22-11 08:50 AM   #105 
  - It's never that simple  krispos42   Nov-19-11 05:12 PM   #23 
  - Not to put too fine a point on it...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 08:23 AM   #80 
  - And the first fucking post pulls the thread into the gutter  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 05:01 PM   #14 
  - and I gave you an example.  safeinOhio   Nov-19-11 05:08 PM   #21 
  - We call it the gutter. They call it home court. nt  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:45 AM   #42 
  - Of course you can hold progressive views and still support RKBA ...  spin   Nov-19-11 05:05 PM   #17 
  - I totally agree.  safeinOhio   Nov-19-11 05:15 PM   #24 
  - Registration of firearms does not appeal to me ...  spin   Nov-19-11 06:00 PM   #27 
     - My problem w/ requiring ALL gun sales to go through NICS  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 06:25 PM   #28 
        - Under the Colorado system a criminal can still buy a firearm from a private citizen ...  spin   Nov-19-11 06:40 PM   #30 
           - Well yeah,  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 09:11 PM   #34 
  - It was a very liberal and progressive document in the 18th century  Starboard Tack   Nov-20-11 03:39 PM   #63 
     - Free blacks in the south  gejohnston   Nov-20-11 03:48 PM   #64 
     - Wrong once again...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 08:44 AM   #85 
  - Well,  ObamaFTW2012   Nov-19-11 05:50 PM   #26 
  - Progressives (and liberals) advocate  rrneck   Nov-19-11 07:15 PM   #32 
  - I would  gejohnston   Nov-19-11 10:49 PM   #40 
     - Oh. I was mostly pulling the OP's leg  rrneck   Nov-20-11 09:37 AM   #47 
  - Yes. And at the risk of being a boor (through repetition)  Simo 1939_1940   Nov-19-11 08:00 PM   #33 
  - Thanks for that link  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 09:14 PM   #35 
     - You're welcome. Hard to pick even a few favorite lines in  Simo 1939_1940   Nov-20-11 09:41 PM   #74 
  - nope  iverglas   Nov-19-11 09:27 PM   #36 
  - I strongly suspect you agree.  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 10:44 PM   #39 
     - hahahahaha  iverglas   Nov-20-11 10:05 AM   #48 
        - Excuse me, but  ObamaFTW2012   Nov-20-11 10:24 AM   #49 
           - well you may want to excuse yourself to your fellow USAmericans  iverglas   Nov-20-11 10:42 AM   #52 
              - Ok, so  ObamaFTW2012   Nov-20-11 11:12 AM   #55 
                 - fine  iverglas   Nov-20-11 11:47 AM   #56 
  - True, it's a tiring and banal smear job  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:42 AM   #41 
  - Yes. Personally, I find allowing guns MORE progressive in reducing gun misuse.  Festivito   Nov-20-11 06:52 AM   #43 
  - let's parse that out  iverglas   Nov-20-11 10:54 AM   #53 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-20-11 01:55 PM   #58 
  - For my own recollection.  Festivito   Nov-22-11 08:55 AM   #108 
  - Freedom of choice and individual liberty are progressive values  slackmaster   Nov-20-11 07:17 AM   #44 
  - and a lot of people, you included, don't get "progressive"  iverglas   Nov-20-11 09:07 AM   #45 
  - A lot of people can't handle it. And oppose it for that reason. n/t  oneshooter   Nov-20-11 09:23 AM   #46 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-20-11 04:52 PM   #65 
        - but not everybody is such a baby  iverglas   Nov-20-11 06:19 PM   #69 
  - Of course it is possible?  Starboard Tack   Nov-20-11 03:24 PM   #62 
  - "Progressiveness is stunted"  rrneck   Nov-20-11 10:20 PM   #75 
  - You can't really be progressive and anti 2A...you can't mix and match human rights.  ileus   Nov-20-11 05:12 PM   #66 
     - What if you believe in the K part but not the B?  Starboard Tack   Nov-20-11 05:47 PM   #67 
     - You either accept it or you dont.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 09:50 AM   #88 
        - You are so right. That's why we're having this discussion.  Starboard Tack   Nov-21-11 11:34 PM   #103 
           - Neither one will happen  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-22-11 08:53 AM   #106 
     - but you sure can know what "human rights" means  iverglas   Nov-20-11 06:21 PM   #70 
        - "human rights aren't recognized in the USofA"  Remmah2   Nov-21-11 09:41 AM   #86 
           - If its who I think it is who said that...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 09:47 AM   #87 
           - The UN is a lot of talk w/little action.  Remmah2   Nov-21-11 10:06 AM   #90 
           - Gotta agree with you there  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 10:14 AM   #92 
              - people who have a clue  iverglas   Nov-21-11 10:37 AM   #95 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-11 10:34 AM   #94 
           - The UDHR doesn't have *any* signatories because it's not legally binding  Euromutt   Nov-21-11 04:20 PM   #97 
           - "in effect in the U.S. because they're in the Bill of Rights"  iverglas   Nov-21-11 05:09 PM   #101 
           - Thanks for the education.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-22-11 08:54 AM   #107 
           - you think?  iverglas   Nov-21-11 05:07 PM   #100 
           - got google?  iverglas   Nov-21-11 10:32 AM   #93 
 

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