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Sat Nov-19-11 07:04 PM
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| 31. Better luck next time. nt |
| -Is It Possible to be PRO RKBA and PROgressive At The Same Time? |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 04:19 PM |
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I think this post on here confirms what |
safeinOhio |
Nov-19-11 04:24 PM |
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I am for the RKBA but wouldn't support the NRA for any reason |
doc03 |
Nov-19-11 04:30 PM |
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Do support their views on the RKBA? |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 04:35 PM |
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I don't have to support a group that is a puppet for the |
doc03 |
Nov-19-11 04:46 PM |
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But you will happily benefit from their efforts |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 04:52 PM |
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Hitler liked cats |
safeinOhio |
Nov-19-11 04:53 PM |
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And I really doubt anyone here would vote Republican over guns. |
TheWraith |
Nov-19-11 04:58 PM |
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A 2008 DU Gungeon Poll Proves You Wrong. |
Paladin |
Nov-20-11 10:24 AM |
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I'm sure you can provide a link, right? |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:22 AM |
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this forum is an ongoing conversation |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 01:31 AM |
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I asked the author of this statement to provide citation on |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-21-11 03:31 PM |
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I'll bet you just didn't see my post with the link you demanded |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 05:01 PM |
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oh look, so young and yet so wise |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 05:02 PM |
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One poll from 3 years ago that you dont even link to? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 08:33 AM |
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OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 08:43 AM |
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The point was that they are the only group in America standing up for the 2nd amendment |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 05:00 PM |
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The point is this fucking thread is not about the NRA |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 05:02 PM |
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Many would disagree with you |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 05:10 PM |
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Many didn't start the fucking thread |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 06:26 PM |
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Better luck next time. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 07:04 PM |
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Agreed. the thread is NOT about the NRA. There are only 4.3 million NRA members ... |
spin |
Nov-20-11 10:38 AM |
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Spin please |
RSillsbee |
Nov-20-11 12:53 PM |
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and the actual point, to many ... |
iverglas |
Nov-19-11 09:32 PM |
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Yea - a bunch of spineless Democrats. But they are slowly coming around. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 09:43 PM |
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Actually you left out the most conservative pro-gun group ... |
spin |
Nov-20-11 10:55 AM |
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Not the only group... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 08:17 AM |
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ah, there ya go again |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 08:19 AM |
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And the most effective. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-21-11 09:57 AM |
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Definitely the most effective. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 10:10 AM |
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Hitler liked dogs |
gejohnston |
Nov-19-11 05:05 PM |
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They also endorse Democrats. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-20-11 02:07 PM |
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So if you and I see eye to eye on 99 percent of social issues |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 04:32 PM |
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If you see eye to eye with me on 99 percent of |
safeinOhio |
Nov-19-11 04:58 PM |
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So that one percent is enough to make him what? A tea bagger? |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 05:06 PM |
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I didn't mention the NRA at all |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 04:54 PM |
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That's like saying that if you're in favor of animal rights, you also support PETA. |
TheWraith |
Nov-19-11 04:54 PM |
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Nuance is finding some of the things |
safeinOhio |
Nov-19-11 05:06 PM |
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I can defend the NRA's position on the 2nd amendment |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 05:30 PM |
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Yes it is, but the RKBA says the government trusts the people |
doc03 |
Nov-19-11 04:27 PM |
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There are 80 million plus gun owners in this country |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 05:04 PM |
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Don't you think thet are doing enough damage already? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 02:58 PM |
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has decreased since then |
gejohnston |
Nov-20-11 03:22 PM |
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Consider these facts |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 06:17 PM |
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few to none because |
gejohnston |
Nov-20-11 06:49 PM |
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Exactly. Now look at the states with the highest suicide rates |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 07:14 PM |
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You should know my first thought by now |
gejohnston |
Nov-20-11 07:37 PM |
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We've been around this block before. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-22-11 12:13 AM |
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So what? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 08:30 AM |
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Nah - that's criminal behavior, not revolt. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 08:24 AM |
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Your profound empathy is truly astounding. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-21-11 10:27 PM |
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Empathy and sympathy.... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-22-11 08:50 AM |
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It's never that simple |
krispos42 |
Nov-19-11 05:12 PM |
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Not to put too fine a point on it... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 08:23 AM |
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And the first fucking post pulls the thread into the gutter |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 05:01 PM |
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and I gave you an example. |
safeinOhio |
Nov-19-11 05:08 PM |
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We call it the gutter. They call it home court. nt |
Union Scribe |
Nov-20-11 02:45 AM |
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Of course you can hold progressive views and still support RKBA ... |
spin |
Nov-19-11 05:05 PM |
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I totally agree. |
safeinOhio |
Nov-19-11 05:15 PM |
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Registration of firearms does not appeal to me ... |
spin |
Nov-19-11 06:00 PM |
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My problem w/ requiring ALL gun sales to go through NICS |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 06:25 PM |
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Under the Colorado system a criminal can still buy a firearm from a private citizen ... |
spin |
Nov-19-11 06:40 PM |
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Well yeah, |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 09:11 PM |
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It was a very liberal and progressive document in the 18th century |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 03:39 PM |
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Free blacks in the south |
gejohnston |
Nov-20-11 03:48 PM |
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Wrong once again... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 08:44 AM |
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Well, |
ObamaFTW2012 |
Nov-19-11 05:50 PM |
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Progressives (and liberals) advocate |
rrneck |
Nov-19-11 07:15 PM |
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I would |
gejohnston |
Nov-19-11 10:49 PM |
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Oh. I was mostly pulling the OP's leg |
rrneck |
Nov-20-11 09:37 AM |
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Yes. And at the risk of being a boor (through repetition) |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-19-11 08:00 PM |
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Thanks for that link |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 09:14 PM |
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You're welcome. Hard to pick even a few favorite lines in |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-20-11 09:41 PM |
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nope |
iverglas |
Nov-19-11 09:27 PM |
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I strongly suspect you agree. |
RSillsbee |
Nov-19-11 10:44 PM |
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hahahahaha |
iverglas |
Nov-20-11 10:05 AM |
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Excuse me, but |
ObamaFTW2012 |
Nov-20-11 10:24 AM |
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well you may want to excuse yourself to your fellow USAmericans |
iverglas |
Nov-20-11 10:42 AM |
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Ok, so |
ObamaFTW2012 |
Nov-20-11 11:12 AM |
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fine |
iverglas |
Nov-20-11 11:47 AM |
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True, it's a tiring and banal smear job |
Union Scribe |
Nov-20-11 02:42 AM |
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Yes. Personally, I find allowing guns MORE progressive in reducing gun misuse. |
Festivito |
Nov-20-11 06:52 AM |
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let's parse that out |
iverglas |
Nov-20-11 10:54 AM |
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Nov-20-11 01:55 PM |
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For my own recollection. |
Festivito |
Nov-22-11 08:55 AM |
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Freedom of choice and individual liberty are progressive values |
slackmaster |
Nov-20-11 07:17 AM |
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and a lot of people, you included, don't get "progressive" |
iverglas |
Nov-20-11 09:07 AM |
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A lot of people can't handle it. And oppose it for that reason. n/t |
oneshooter |
Nov-20-11 09:23 AM |
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Nov-20-11 04:52 PM |
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but not everybody is such a baby |
iverglas |
Nov-20-11 06:19 PM |
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Of course it is possible? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 03:24 PM |
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"Progressiveness is stunted" |
rrneck |
Nov-20-11 10:20 PM |
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You can't really be progressive and anti 2A...you can't mix and match human rights. |
ileus |
Nov-20-11 05:12 PM |
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What if you believe in the K part but not the B? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 05:47 PM |
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You either accept it or you dont. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 09:50 AM |
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You are so right. That's why we're having this discussion. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-21-11 11:34 PM |
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Neither one will happen |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-22-11 08:53 AM |
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but you sure can know what "human rights" means |
iverglas |
Nov-20-11 06:21 PM |
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"human rights aren't recognized in the USofA" |
Remmah2 |
Nov-21-11 09:41 AM |
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If its who I think it is who said that... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 09:47 AM |
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The UN is a lot of talk w/little action. |
Remmah2 |
Nov-21-11 10:06 AM |
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Gotta agree with you there |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-21-11 10:14 AM |
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people who have a clue |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 10:37 AM |
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Nov-21-11 10:34 AM |
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The UDHR doesn't have *any* signatories because it's not legally binding |
Euromutt |
Nov-21-11 04:20 PM |
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"in effect in the U.S. because they're in the Bill of Rights" |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 05:09 PM |
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Thanks for the education. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-22-11 08:54 AM |
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you think? |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 05:07 PM |
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got google? |
iverglas |
Nov-21-11 10:32 AM |
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