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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:34 AM
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9. I thought you didn't trust the State?
Edited on Fri Nov-18-11 08:43 AM by baldguy
And in the two events I cited, the shooters got to go on about their business with no repercussions.
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  -Alright Gungeon, How Do You Fare on the Death Penalty? LAGC  Nov-18-11 07:57 AM   #0 
  - False equivalency...  rfranklin   Nov-18-11 08:04 AM   #1 
  - Between the druggies and gun nutz, one sometimes need to stop others from  RC   Nov-18-11 08:05 AM   #2 
  - Violent criminals are not innocent  ObamaFTW2012   Nov-18-11 03:00 PM   #44 
  - The death penalty is just a blood sport for lawyers.  jeepnstein   Nov-18-11 08:11 AM   #3 
  - Does the use of lethal force automatically require the use of handguns?  baldguy   Nov-18-11 08:14 AM   #4 
  - +1  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-18-11 08:18 AM   #5 
  - It's sad that the two of you actually think that that's an argument.  TheWraith   Nov-18-11 03:22 PM   #49 
     - So, you think it never happens? Or just not often enough for you to consider we have a problem?  Hoyt   Nov-18-11 11:12 PM   #52 
  - not sure there is such a thing as an inconsequential threat to some  DrDan   Nov-18-11 08:23 AM   #6 
  - -1 nt  Remmah2   Nov-18-11 08:41 AM   #11 
  - so you don't believe that? or you don't think it should be posted?  DrDan   Nov-18-11 08:48 AM   #12 
     - By all means show us a link NT  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 08:32 AM   #57 
        - I did - see post 30  DrDan   Nov-20-11 06:37 AM   #62 
  - link to that, please.  Tuesday Afternoon   Nov-18-11 10:52 AM   #16 
  - Unfortunately, that is true. Read this thread...  TPaine7   Nov-18-11 11:17 AM   #20 
  - will have to read it later tonight --  Tuesday Afternoon   Nov-18-11 11:20 AM   #22 
  - here ya go  DrDan   Nov-18-11 12:02 PM   #30 
     - Armed robbery is a lethal threat; the object of the crime is secondary. nt  SteveM   Nov-18-11 03:04 PM   #46 
        - and cold-blooded murder is cold-blooded murder  iverglas   Nov-18-11 03:41 PM   #51 
        - it's killing someone for a ball point pen  DrDan   Nov-19-11 04:30 AM   #53 
  - Exactly.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-18-11 03:33 PM   #50 
  - Sorry dude.  Callisto32   Nov-19-11 06:53 AM   #54 
  - Which is why we have police.  Atypical Liberal   Nov-18-11 08:27 AM   #8 
  - I thought you didn't trust the State?  baldguy   Nov-18-11 08:34 AM   #9 
  - I don't trust the State to have oversight over ITSELF.  Atypical Liberal   Nov-18-11 10:44 AM   #14 
  - You're joking, right? Either that, or you're woefully ignorant.  baldguy   Nov-18-11 11:19 AM   #21 
     - yeah, don't trust the people whom the people elect  iverglas   Nov-18-11 11:30 AM   #27 
     - No, I wasn't joking.  Atypical Liberal   Nov-18-11 02:20 PM   #39 
     - Did you actually READ that article about the shooting over the dog?  Euromutt   Nov-21-11 06:25 AM   #63 
        - Even if it was, in both cases the shooters did not get away without repercussions.  Atypical Liberal   Nov-21-11 10:05 AM   #65 
        - haha, now "oversight" is the buzzword du jour  iverglas   Nov-21-11 10:52 AM   #67 
        - I want my bedtime Tory!  iverglas   Nov-21-11 10:47 AM   #66 
  - the doorbell ringer  iverglas   Nov-18-11 11:11 AM   #18 
  - more of the false falseness  iverglas   Nov-18-11 11:06 AM   #17 
  - You have to shoot a little lower if it's a kid behind the door..  ileus   Nov-18-11 11:23 AM   #23 
  - who said "through a door"?  iverglas   Nov-18-11 11:40 AM   #29 
     - "Rootie-toot-toot! Three times she shot, right through that hardwood door...."  SteveM   Nov-18-11 03:07 PM   #47 
  - Not if you know what lethal means  one-eyed fat man   Nov-18-11 11:33 AM   #28 
  - There are problems with your outlook...  SteveM   Nov-18-11 03:02 PM   #45 
  - Oy.  Callisto32   Nov-19-11 06:58 AM   #55 
  - Since this is so common  RSillsbee   Nov-19-11 08:31 AM   #56 
     - The examples have a ring of familiarity to them.  Hoopla Phil   Nov-19-11 07:46 PM   #58 
        - omg, I missed this one  iverglas   Nov-21-11 10:55 AM   #68 
  - I trust the individual, but not the State.  Atypical Liberal   Nov-18-11 08:25 AM   #7 
  - +1  Remmah2   Nov-18-11 08:40 AM   #10 
  - "especially since when he uses lethal force there is judicial oversight"  iverglas   Nov-18-11 11:12 AM   #19 
     - If the constituted authority investigates the shooting...  57_TomCat   Nov-21-11 07:58 PM   #77 
        - which it may not do  iverglas   Nov-23-11 12:08 AM   #79 
  - Option 2.  rrneck   Nov-18-11 10:32 AM   #13 
  - bizarre unanswerable questions  iverglas   Nov-18-11 10:49 AM   #15 
  - OK I tend to agree with a lot of what you have written --  Tuesday Afternoon   Nov-18-11 11:25 AM   #25 
     - sniff  iverglas   Nov-18-11 11:28 AM   #26 
  - Tough question.  one-eyed fat man   Nov-18-11 11:24 AM   #24 
  - I oppose the death penalty because of the added expense of the court proceedings ...  spin   Nov-18-11 12:45 PM   #31 
  - here's another possibility / unintended/perverse effect  iverglas   Nov-18-11 12:54 PM   #32 
     - Good point, I hadn't thought of that.  LAGC   Nov-18-11 01:03 PM   #33 
     - You make a good point ...  spin   Nov-18-11 01:52 PM   #36 
        - LOL, while reading your reply I had the Void dire scene from My Cousin Vinny  Hoopla Phil   Nov-19-11 07:50 PM   #59 
        - Just because one supports the death penalty...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 11:28 AM   #71 
           - ah, if only you could have seen my post 32  iverglas   Nov-21-11 11:59 AM   #72 
  - Well, its all over now. After a short delay, Paul Ezra Rhoades was executed by lethal injection...  LAGC   Nov-18-11 01:40 PM   #34 
  - I dont see it as blood-thirsty revenge.  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-18-11 01:44 PM   #35 
     - Well, the ironic thing is...  LAGC   Nov-18-11 01:57 PM   #37 
        - Well yeah - streamlining the process would help...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-18-11 02:13 PM   #38 
        - Well, maybe we'll banish them all to Mars someday.  LAGC   Nov-18-11 02:33 PM   #40 
           - Mars is an excelent idea...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-18-11 02:44 PM   #41 
        - "innocent people put to death at the hands of the state"  iverglas   Nov-18-11 02:48 PM   #42 
  - Oppose death penalty, would use lethal force when there is a lethal threat...  SteveM   Nov-18-11 02:57 PM   #43 
  - I have no moral objection, but I have a strong practical one.  TheWraith   Nov-18-11 03:18 PM   #48 
  - I'm in complete agreement  Euromutt   Nov-21-11 06:34 AM   #64 
     - well, maybe not in the US  iverglas   Nov-21-11 11:26 AM   #70 
        - Would this...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-21-11 12:35 PM   #74 
           - well to start with  iverglas   Nov-21-11 02:48 PM   #76 
  - None of the above  DissedByBush   Nov-19-11 09:12 PM   #60 
  - Self defense is a right.  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-19-11 10:02 PM   #61 
     - That's your opinion  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 11:07 AM   #69 
        - Those are my shortcomings...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-21-11 12:04 PM   #73 
           - Not shortcomings...  We_Have_A_Problem   Nov-21-11 01:35 PM   #75 
              - No borderline about it...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-22-11 10:49 PM   #78 
 

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