| 70. er, I didn't join the NRA |
|
and I was talking to the person who said: And they'll <NRA and CRPA, whatever that is> keep getting my support as long as Democrats allow the stinking, maggot-ridden albatross of "gun control" to dangle from their necks.So maybe you'd like to go correct that person. Yes, yes, I see it is the California Rifle and Pistol Association, which is presumably the local affiliate of the NRA, and seems to spend about as much of its time and its members' money on politics as ... well, as the NRA does. http://blog.crpa.org/?page_id=56 The CRPA… 1. Represents California firearms owners. 2. Defends the right to self-defense. 3. Fights crime and violence. 4. Gets your message out. 5. Trains gun owners. 6. Promotes safe gun ownership & use. 7. Sanctions championship shooting competitions. 8. Protects the hunting and shooting sports. 9. Keeps you informed. About half of that actually has anything to do with anything other than the right-wing agenda, I'd say. |
| -Happy 140th Birthday, NRA! |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-17-11 01:42 PM |
#0 |
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You must feel very proud |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 01:48 PM |
#1 |
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What is your problem with the NRA? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 01:54 PM |
#3 |
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No, just the fact that they distort the 2nd Amendment. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 02:15 PM |
#9 |
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Funny thing is... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 02:27 PM |
#13 |
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I don't ignore anything |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 03:09 PM |
#16 |
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What I've picked... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 03:12 PM |
#17 |
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"I also fail to see where the NRA has distorted the 2nd Amendment." |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 03:30 PM |
#23 |
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No, I don't know it. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 04:00 PM |
#33 |
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I've got news for you. We are not in the 18th century. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 05:04 PM |
#38 |
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No we arent |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 05:23 PM |
#40 |
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Open mouth, insert foot. |
beevul |
Nov-17-11 10:13 PM |
#63 |
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And what is it that you think I want to see accomplished? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 10:46 PM |
#68 |
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What ? |
beevul |
Nov-18-11 06:34 AM |
#80 |
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OK, let me enlighten you, as your ESP failed |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-18-11 06:52 PM |
#97 |
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"Yes, the line has to be drawn somewhere." |
PavePusher |
Nov-18-11 10:20 PM |
#108 |
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"I would prefer CC permits be issued based on demonstrable need." |
PavePusher |
Nov-18-11 10:21 PM |
#109 |
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CC permit is not a civil right |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-19-11 04:34 AM |
#115 |
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"keep and bear arms" is a Civil Right. |
PavePusher |
Nov-19-11 09:16 AM |
#120 |
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It is a Constitutional Right. For now. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-19-11 10:59 PM |
#142 |
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Are you saying CC permits are unconstitutional? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 02:44 PM |
#151 |
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Yes. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-22-11 11:12 AM |
#167 |
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Typical. |
beevul |
Nov-19-11 06:42 AM |
#117 |
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You are funny! |
Callisto32 |
Nov-19-11 11:07 AM |
#124 |
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If the NRA is so in bed with the GOP, why do they support Harry Reid? |
Lurks Often |
Nov-17-11 06:51 PM |
#51 |
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There are many who support 2A who despise the NRA |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 06:58 PM |
#54 |
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You did see when it stated that Sen Reid voted against |
Lurks Often |
Nov-18-11 10:22 AM |
#85 |
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Yes and your point is? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-18-11 04:09 PM |
#91 |
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The point you keep trying to ignore |
Lurks Often |
Nov-19-11 06:50 PM |
#137 |
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I don't ignore it. I point it out and it disgusts me. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-19-11 10:53 PM |
#140 |
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Then your post above is incorrect |
Lurks Often |
Nov-20-11 12:42 PM |
#147 |
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You are correct. The opinion of SCOTUS counts. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 01:02 PM |
#148 |
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Yawn. I can see that you are so deep into your incorrect, misinformed, |
Lurks Often |
Nov-20-11 07:21 PM |
#153 |
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They proudly and far-disproportionally support Republicans. As do most gun folks. (NT) |
Tesha |
Nov-17-11 05:19 PM |
#39 |
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All NRA members are members of the militia? |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Nov-24-11 08:07 PM |
#174 |
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militia membership is irrelevant |
gejohnston |
Nov-24-11 09:39 PM |
#177 |
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And the "troops under their command" were Union or Confederate? nt |
SteveM |
Nov-17-11 01:56 PM |
#5 |
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I have no idea what your point is |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 03:32 PM |
#25 |
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Seems like the NRA was on the right side of the Civil War. Disagree? nt |
SteveM |
Nov-17-11 04:30 PM |
#35 |
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The NRA was on the right side until 1980 |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 05:33 PM |
#42 |
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Faustian deals: Most here do not make them, correct? nt |
SteveM |
Nov-17-11 05:59 PM |
#47 |
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Correct. Most do not support the NRA |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 06:47 PM |
#50 |
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I do indeed. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-17-11 03:27 PM |
#22 |
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Lets say HB to all lobbyists that bribe Congress to society's detriment -- oil, banks, guns, etc. |
Hoyt |
Nov-17-11 01:51 PM |
#2 |
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long as you remember to include... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 01:55 PM |
#4 |
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But those aren't "detrimental" unless one is a right winger. I know you guys wouldn't want to |
Hoyt |
Nov-17-11 02:06 PM |
#8 |
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The point, which you missed as usual |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 02:25 PM |
#11 |
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I guess the fact that the NRA endorses 3 right wingers for every Democrat is good for society. |
Hoyt |
Nov-17-11 02:52 PM |
#14 |
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They endorse pro-gun candidates |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 02:53 PM |
#15 |
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Democrats could change that OVERNIGHT. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-17-11 03:25 PM |
#20 |
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I hope Democrats don't do that. I doubt most will. |
Hoyt |
Nov-17-11 03:33 PM |
#26 |
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NRA-PVF Endorsement Policy |
burf |
Nov-17-11 03:44 PM |
#30 |
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oh, it helps soooo much |
iverglas |
Nov-17-11 07:45 PM |
#58 |
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Typical |
burf |
Nov-17-11 09:26 PM |
#60 |
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You've never worked for a PAC or Lobby organization if you believe that BS policy. |
Hoyt |
Nov-17-11 09:36 PM |
#61 |
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Folks like you CREATED the modern NRA, Hoyt. You |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-18-11 07:14 PM |
#100 |
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Glad to help you guys tote without concern for society. Maybe they just don't want to hear you whine |
Hoyt |
Nov-18-11 10:33 PM |
#110 |
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And maybe a lot of other folks don't want to hear you whine |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-19-11 03:23 AM |
#113 |
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Thanks. Can't be put any more simply than that. n/t |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-17-11 10:42 PM |
#67 |
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See NRA last minute |
safeinOhio |
Nov-18-11 02:49 AM |
#78 |
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I'll take that. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-18-11 08:20 AM |
#83 |
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Excellent description of how they play games to advance their political agenda and fool members. |
Hoyt |
Nov-18-11 04:19 PM |
#92 |
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Then Democrats need to step up and give us an alternative to the NRA |
hack89 |
Nov-18-11 06:27 PM |
#94 |
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Sorry, I will not bow to the almighty NRA and their gun toting members, mostly TBaggers. |
Hoyt |
Nov-18-11 10:35 PM |
#111 |
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We wouldn't expect you to bow to the NRA, Hoyt. |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-19-11 03:27 AM |
#114 |
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I would hope not - the NRA needs people like you in order to grow. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 07:35 AM |
#118 |
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Just what we need, more TBag toters. |
Hoyt |
Nov-19-11 12:13 PM |
#127 |
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Just remember you bear some of the responsibility for their increase in numbers. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 01:29 PM |
#128 |
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No, people who can't live without guns are responsible. As are right wingers who pander to them. |
Hoyt |
Nov-19-11 03:08 PM |
#129 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-19-11 03:30 PM |
#130 |
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They probably would use devious tactics to fool those who'll pay dues to anything related to guns. |
Hoyt |
Nov-19-11 03:32 PM |
#131 |
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No more devious than the Brady bunch. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 03:33 PM |
#132 |
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At least they aren't for the proliferation of guns. |
Hoyt |
Nov-19-11 03:45 PM |
#133 |
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They just stand for the restriction of civil rights. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 04:22 PM |
#135 |
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And what is the harm in that? |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 04:24 PM |
#136 |
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Can you please get your story straight once in a while? |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-19-11 08:03 PM |
#138 |
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Wow, are you naive! |
Logical |
Nov-17-11 11:01 PM |
#74 |
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Constitutional Right? |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Nov-24-11 08:14 PM |
#175 |
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I don't believe you understand the concept of a right |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-25-11 08:21 AM |
#178 |
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somehow, I doubt that 2A would be in jeopardy without rightwingers -- |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Nov-17-11 03:32 PM |
#24 |
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And a whole lot more that don't, particularly when we are talking about toting guns in public. |
Hoyt |
Nov-17-11 03:34 PM |
#27 |
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you are entitled to opinion, of course. I reiterate that there are |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Nov-17-11 03:43 PM |
#28 |
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Your true colors are blinding us |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 02:17 PM |
#10 |
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I am pointing out... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 02:26 PM |
#12 |
| -
that's just too funny |
iverglas |
Nov-18-11 07:01 PM |
#99 |
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Formed to help us kill our fellow man more efficiently... |
rfranklin |
Nov-17-11 01:57 PM |
#6 |
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Sometimes it is necessary to kill others. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 06:04 PM |
#49 |
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You are naive... |
rfranklin |
Nov-17-11 07:05 PM |
#55 |
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No my friend it is you who is naive. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-18-11 03:19 PM |
#89 |
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So True |
fightthegoodfightnow |
Nov-24-11 08:03 PM |
#172 |
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Gun accidents continue to climb |
RSillsbee |
Nov-24-11 08:05 PM |
#173 |
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safer than many countries |
gejohnston |
Nov-24-11 09:37 PM |
#176 |
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You have any actual proof of any of those claims? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-25-11 08:26 AM |
#179 |
| -
It used to be a decent organization |
sharp_stick |
Nov-17-11 01:58 PM |
#7 |
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The NRA should not be celebrated. A bunch of right wing nuts. |
Logical |
Nov-17-11 03:16 PM |
#18 |
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The NRA endorses Democrats.. |
Upton |
Nov-17-11 03:24 PM |
#19 |
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Give it a rest. Name one they have had as a keynote speaker. Also.... |
Logical |
Nov-17-11 03:46 PM |
#31 |
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A keynote speaker? |
Upton |
Nov-17-11 03:55 PM |
#32 |
| -
Want to move those goal posts again? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 04:09 PM |
#34 |
| -
Nice try! |
Logical |
Nov-17-11 10:59 PM |
#72 |
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They pander to the majority of their supporters, who happen to be right-wing. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-17-11 10:40 PM |
#66 |
| -
In the last election, the NRA gave all my Democratic candiates except one high marks. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-17-11 03:26 PM |
#21 |
| -
Interesting to see how little support you're getting here |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 03:43 PM |
#29 |
| -
Most people fear what they do not understand....nt |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 04:39 PM |
#36 |
| -
I think most people here do understand what the NRA has become |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 05:36 PM |
#43 |
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I understand guns. But I fear them in the hands of the type of person... |
Walk away |
Nov-19-11 10:31 AM |
#122 |
| -
Count me as a supporter. As has been pointed out in this thread |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-17-11 05:27 PM |
#41 |
| -
A single issue? LOL |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 05:41 PM |
#44 |
| -
Yep, firearms freedom is their single issue. Is there another |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-17-11 05:50 PM |
#45 |
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Yes! Making sure anyone who opposes their agenda doesn't get elected |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 06:51 PM |
#52 |
| -
So you'd best not cross the NRA and shoot yourself in the foot, then. n/t |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-17-11 10:36 PM |
#65 |
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I take that as a "no" you cannot offer up an issue that the NRA |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-18-11 12:21 AM |
#76 |
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endorsing candidates |
iverglas |
Nov-18-11 09:37 AM |
#84 |
| -
Well that IS kinda what they exist to do... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-22-11 09:07 AM |
#163 |
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Simple |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 05:55 PM |
#46 |
| -
How did it go from improving marksmanship with rifles... |
beevul |
Nov-17-11 10:21 PM |
#64 |
| -
And so the pendulum swings |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-17-11 10:49 PM |
#69 |
| -
Yes, but it would be helful if you understood which direction it swings... |
beevul |
Nov-18-11 06:18 AM |
#79 |
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Look at the bottom right |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-18-11 06:58 PM |
#98 |
| -
And? |
beevul |
Nov-19-11 06:24 AM |
#116 |
| -
Who am "us," anyway? |
Straw Man |
Nov-17-11 11:00 PM |
#73 |
| -
It is nice when prohibitionists are honest for the rare occasion isn't it? Of course, it |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-18-11 12:24 AM |
#77 |
| -
"Us" would be those who are not compulsive toters. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-18-11 04:02 PM |
#90 |
| -
Compulsive toters = those who recognize that assault doesn't only happen at home. |
Straw Man |
Nov-18-11 05:05 PM |
#93 |
| -
Compulsive toting = Irrational behavior |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-18-11 07:37 PM |
#102 |
| -
You're trying to have it both ways again. |
Straw Man |
Nov-18-11 09:52 PM |
#106 |
| -
I'm not trying to have it any way |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-19-11 03:55 PM |
#134 |
| -
More double-talk. |
Straw Man |
Nov-19-11 11:23 PM |
#143 |
| -
Why an AWB? |
hack89 |
Nov-19-11 07:37 AM |
#119 |
| -
Oh, well lets just ban "crime weapons" then |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 12:27 PM |
#145 |
| -
No - lets fix real problems |
hack89 |
Nov-20-11 07:25 PM |
#154 |
| -
How much is significant? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-21-11 09:52 PM |
#155 |
| -
Certainly less than a hundred - possibly much fewer. |
hack89 |
Nov-22-11 09:28 AM |
#164 |
| -
Thanks for the info. That's good. So all we have to worry about is handguns. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-23-11 12:22 PM |
#169 |
| -
Where does you belief in the right to own a gun originate? N/T |
Marengo |
Nov-22-11 08:07 AM |
#161 |
| -
The simple fact that I am a free man. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-22-11 09:37 AM |
#165 |
| -
I belong to the NRA. I am also a lifelong Democrat. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-18-11 06:29 PM |
#95 |
| -
Good for you. I'm sure you're not alone. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-18-11 07:40 PM |
#103 |
| -
No need to - paranoia seems to be your problem not mine. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-18-11 08:40 PM |
#105 |
| -
He's doing that "dire muttering" thing again. |
Straw Man |
Nov-18-11 11:23 PM |
#112 |
| -
No paranoia here, thank you. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-19-11 10:56 PM |
#141 |
| -
No - you just give them reasons to exist and grow |
hack89 |
Nov-20-11 09:44 AM |
#144 |
| -
And knowing that you continue to support it. Bravo! |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 12:35 PM |
#146 |
| -
Only until the Democrats get smart. nt |
hack89 |
Nov-20-11 01:16 PM |
#149 |
| -
So the Democrats are not smart? Is that what you're saying? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-20-11 02:38 PM |
#150 |
| -
They are stupid as hell when it comes to gun control |
hack89 |
Nov-20-11 07:19 PM |
#152 |
| -
Am I to assume you are not a Democrat? |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-21-11 09:56 PM |
#156 |
| -
I do think he is thinking of Democratic politicians |
gejohnston |
Nov-21-11 10:16 PM |
#157 |
| -
You should assume no such thing. |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-21-11 10:18 PM |
#158 |
| -
Hey, it's a big tent. I'm just asking based on his statements. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-22-11 12:33 AM |
#160 |
| -
"If there truly were "empirical evidence" on gun issues, |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-22-11 08:41 PM |
#168 |
| -
Staunch Democrat - very active in local politics |
hack89 |
Nov-22-11 10:11 AM |
#166 |
| -
OK fair enough, but I think we can honestly differ without calling each other stupid. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-23-11 12:27 PM |
#170 |
| -
"What other right wing organizations should we embrace?" |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-21-11 10:21 PM |
#159 |
| -
I joined the NRA and CRPA a few years ago largely |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-17-11 04:43 PM |
#37 |
| -
I hear ya. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Nov-17-11 06:00 PM |
#48 |
| -
so |
iverglas |
Nov-17-11 07:43 PM |
#57 |
| -
let me correct that for you |
gejohnston |
Nov-17-11 08:34 PM |
#59 |
| -
er, I didn't join the NRA |
iverglas |
Nov-17-11 10:55 PM |
#70 |
| -
OK fine, you know what I meant |
gejohnston |
Nov-18-11 10:19 PM |
#107 |
| -
Ooo, this will be intersting |
krispos42 |
Nov-17-11 06:53 PM |
#53 |
| -
oh, you left a bit out, dincha? |
iverglas |
Nov-17-11 07:40 PM |
#56 |
| -
Wayne LaPierre is nuts. |
BiggJawn |
Nov-17-11 10:10 PM |
#62 |
| -
you're the third person I've heard say that week |
iverglas |
Nov-17-11 10:58 PM |
#71 |
| -
Because the shooting ranges get a bunch of benefits |
burf |
Nov-18-11 06:35 AM |
#81 |
| -
Yes, it's probably the insurance. |
BiggJawn |
Nov-18-11 06:46 AM |
#82 |
| -
It's your conscience. You have options. You don't have to hold your nose. |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-18-11 07:51 PM |
#104 |
| -
As a member of the NRA, I'm grateful for their defense of the 2nd amendment. |
aikoaiko |
Nov-17-11 11:10 PM |
#75 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-18-11 02:57 PM |
#86 |
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The NRA supports plenty of Democrats. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-18-11 03:04 PM |
#87 |
| -
I vote solid D, thank you. The NRA is a one issue org, but I am not. |
aikoaiko |
Nov-18-11 03:14 PM |
#88 |
| -
And every D in every election is in line with your issues? |
Callisto32 |
Nov-19-11 11:14 AM |
#125 |
| -
I'm not sure what you're getting at so I'll assume it was a well intentioned question. |
aikoaiko |
Nov-19-11 12:00 PM |
#126 |
| -
I have voted for plenty of NRA endorsed Democrats. |
hack89 |
Nov-18-11 06:30 PM |
#96 |
| -
Thanks for waving the white flag of surrender so conspicuously. |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-18-11 07:22 PM |
#101 |
| -
The Figure Last Election Was 45%. |
Paladin |
Nov-19-11 10:06 AM |
#121 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-19-11 10:36 AM |
#123 |
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Be happy to meditate on it for a while if you can produce |
Simo 1939_1940 |
Nov-19-11 08:06 PM |
#139 |
| -
You were asked five days ago for a link to this purported 'poll'. Where is it? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Nov-23-11 07:31 PM |
#171 |
| -
HBD NRA |
ileus |
Nov-22-11 08:42 AM |
#162 |
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