Reply #76: I do agree to disagree.

[TPaine7]

But now back to this thread, and my point, which is still valid: pro-gunners are very often motivated by fear, violent imagery, and are ideologically driven, in contrast to the more measured and scientific approach which pro-control people take. Your OP was a great example. It was wildly hyperbolic and inaccurate, and full of straw arguments. It seems that if you had something intelligent to say, then you wouldn't rely on comparing your opponents to those who think innocent people defending themselves are worse than rapists. Do you think anyone besides a hardened pro-gunner would really take any of that seriously?

I am sure that your psychoanalysis is worth every penny I paid for it. I will give it all the respect it deserves. (Actually I've already been too generous.)

You may not understand yet how common the sentiments I discussed are in this place--that may be honest error. But its hard for me to believe that even you think most of the people IN THIS PLACE who favor ideas like yours take a measured and scientific approach. And even if I cared enough to prove what I'm saying point by point, my posts would be deleted. Its against the rules to call people out. (That's people, not person for a certain character who may read this.)

The OP wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the mindset of too many posters here and elsewhere on the web as well as in the anti-gun world.
And that includes characters in anti-gun organizations. As such, it was not "wildly hyperbolic and inaccurate" it was on point.

There are people who are more outraged, and who use more epithets, insults, criticisms and vitriol against innocent people defending themselves than they do against criminal perpetrators. They are here. Perhaps you are too biased or too new to see them.

If you have the slightest interest in the truth, read some posts about someone defended him or herself with a gun, especially outside the home. Look at the reactions of people who strongly oppose gun rights. Make your own analysis of the level of condemnation for the criminals vs the level of condemnation of the defender. Look at the second guessing. Look at the assumptions used to fill in the information gaps. If you put a little effort into it, you can probably find people saying that they fear CCW holders more than criminals. You will definitely get people calling for harsh penalties for innocent people defending themselves with guns, complete with all the necessary assumptions to cast them in the worst possible light. You will definitely find fanciful alternative tactics the victims should have used.

But by all means, take seriously whatever you want to. I agree to disagree.