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Mon Nov-14-11 01:36 PM
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| 111. Apparently lawsuit self-abuse began with Milwaukee, no? nt |
| -Woman who took gun to church jailed over night for "prowling" - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel blog |
Kolesar |
Nov-12-11 05:35 AM |
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She has sued police and won before on this issue. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 06:55 AM |
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But the RW isn't going to criticize her for lawsuit abuse. nt |
Ilsa |
Nov-12-11 07:20 AM |
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Suing the police to force the cops to comply with the laws isn't lawsuit abuse. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 07:59 AM |
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"Civil Rights Activist" -- that's a stretch, don't you think? |
Hoyt |
Nov-12-11 08:27 AM |
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Your blatent attempt at insinuation and conflation is quite tacky. n/t |
PavePusher |
Nov-12-11 09:01 AM |
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HA! nt |
SteveM |
Nov-14-11 01:37 PM |
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But it looks quite natural on him. n/t |
oneshooter |
Nov-14-11 05:30 PM |
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Not to doubt you, but can you provide us with a link? N/T |
Marengo |
Nov-12-11 09:55 AM |
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+1 |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Nov-13-11 06:57 PM |
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Did you detain him? Did you even file a police report? |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-12-11 12:55 PM |
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The ACLU once defended the KKK's right to parade. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 06:43 PM |
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But, have you reviewed the ACLU's stand on guns. They don't interpret the 2A like gunners do. |
Hoyt |
Nov-12-11 07:27 PM |
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You missed the point. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 07:33 PM |
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Bigots -- like Klansmen -- can only be "civil rights activists" in only the most perverse sense. |
Hoyt |
Nov-12-11 07:37 PM |
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If rights are denied to anybody, including the KKK, then they will be denied to all, including you. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 07:44 PM |
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Civil Rights apply equally to all... including those you despise. |
PavePusher |
Nov-13-11 05:53 PM |
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Your poor, pitiful plight related to your guns is not a "civil right issue." Sorry. |
Hoyt |
Nov-13-11 06:15 PM |
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Expound, please. You have repeatedly failed to explain this. n/t |
PavePusher |
Nov-13-11 06:41 PM |
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They never have, but SCOTUS does |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 07:43 PM |
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so what? |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 08:31 PM |
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To engage in the act, they had to defend the right. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 08:43 PM |
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no, they had to defend themselves |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 08:58 PM |
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Are you referring to "National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie"? |
Euromutt |
Nov-14-11 12:11 AM |
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Thanks for the correction. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-14-11 05:32 AM |
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An understandable mistake |
Euromutt |
Nov-14-11 06:07 AM |
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Do you remember the KKK demonstration at Texas' Capitol? |
SteveM |
Nov-14-11 01:44 PM |
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I think I was living in another state at the time, but I love the thought. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-15-11 12:19 AM |
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"It makes her a civil rights activist." |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 01:26 PM |
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Do break-and-enter criminals routinely publicy surf the net... |
PavePusher |
Nov-12-11 02:18 PM |
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do people doing or about to do something illegal |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 02:33 PM |
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Big difference between investigating and arresting. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 06:40 PM |
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tell it to the scum |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 06:58 PM |
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Those trolling the police often know the rules better that the average cop on graveyard shift |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 07:22 PM |
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Nov-12-11 07:53 PM |
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Snork |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 10:35 PM |
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Nov-13-11 02:58 PM |
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Tantrum, much? n/t |
PavePusher |
Nov-13-11 06:03 PM |
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Nov-13-11 07:14 PM |
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we'll just let the facts speak for themselves |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 07:37 PM |
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You mention the G20 summit. Does the name Byron Sonne ring a bell? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Nov-13-11 10:56 PM |
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not excellent at that reading stuff either? |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 11:04 PM |
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Not a germane question. Sutterfield *was* carrying legally-and got busted anyway |
friendly_iconoclast |
Nov-13-11 11:34 PM |
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> "They can't" |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 11:47 PM |
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Yeah, it *is* a good thing. Would you also defend the Secure Communities program? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Nov-14-11 12:07 AM |
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interesting analogy; are immigrants dangerous in your mind? |
iverglas |
Nov-14-11 12:42 AM |
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What "people in illegal possession of firearms." Sutterfield's posession was legal... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Nov-14-11 12:53 AM |
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what immigrants without legal status? |
iverglas |
Nov-14-11 08:31 AM |
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I am stating that in the absence of illegal activity or a warrant the police have no right to arrest |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 07:42 PM |
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Given the quality of most cops on graveyard, it was probably for contempt of cop |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 07:44 PM |
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I AM ASKING YOU and you can keep prancing and dancing if you want |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 07:54 PM |
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Same way that they know the person driving a car is authorized to drive that car. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 08:49 PM |
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who's talking about cars? |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 08:57 PM |
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same concept |
gejohnston |
Nov-12-11 09:09 PM |
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Regarding ID laws: |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-13-11 01:23 PM |
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and in Canada |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 03:14 PM |
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Actually, GSC was a bit incomplete on that. |
PavePusher |
Nov-13-11 06:27 PM |
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well there ya go |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 07:21 PM |
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In the U.S., we have this thing called "presumption of innocence". |
PavePusher |
Nov-13-11 08:23 PM |
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and in the US you also have people who know what they're talking about |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 10:33 PM |
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And you, by the available evidence, merely have "presumption of superiority". |
PavePusher |
Nov-14-11 10:10 AM |
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Not to mention reasonable suspicion and probable cause |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-13-11 11:07 PM |
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which you apparently think you invented too |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 11:48 PM |
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Apparently lawsuit self-abuse began with Milwaukee, no? nt |
SteveM |
Nov-14-11 01:36 PM |
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Cops and citizens fear a regular patron of a local coffee shop? |
mvccd1000 |
Nov-12-11 07:09 AM |
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So you support police harassing people doing lawful things? |
hack89 |
Nov-12-11 07:19 AM |
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Hopefully she'll win another 7000. |
ileus |
Nov-12-11 07:23 AM |
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Agree. It sounds like she was just using the shop's wifi |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Nov-14-11 08:59 AM |
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Nov-12-11 09:03 AM |
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Beacuse spin is not limited to the media |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 09:31 AM |
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"How do you justify the police arresting someone who is doing something that is legal?" |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 01:37 PM |
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She was stopped and arrested since she was open carrying |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 01:55 PM |
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not too good at answering simple questions, either, are you? |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 02:17 PM |
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Open carry there doesn't constitute reasonable suspicion nor probable cause for a police stop |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 02:35 PM |
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indeed |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 03:05 PM |
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The police are indeed being trolled quite successfully |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 03:30 PM |
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"Why one is doing something is not for the government to judge." |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 03:47 PM |
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Again, you fail to address that it is the police acting illegally |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 04:24 PM |
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maybe the police, and the public in whose interests they act, |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 04:50 PM |
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I never took you for one of them law-n-order types |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 05:13 PM |
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Yes, indeed. |
GreenStormCloud |
Nov-12-11 07:51 PM |
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Nov-12-11 08:04 PM |
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she was in lawful possession of the firearm |
gejohnston |
Nov-12-11 08:16 PM |
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you're probably so used to playing the game you can't even tell |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 08:29 PM |
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disgusting behavior to you |
gejohnston |
Nov-12-11 08:42 PM |
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blah de blah |
iverglas |
Nov-12-11 09:15 PM |
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three of these |
gejohnston |
Nov-12-11 09:24 PM |
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if you want to pretend not to read my posts |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 03:29 PM |
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I read your post |
gejohnston |
Nov-13-11 03:33 PM |
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A purported liberal legal type does not "give a flying f*ck" if rights were violated and an arrest |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 11:58 PM |
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why do you persist in posting false statements about me? |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 03:27 PM |
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Nov-13-11 05:41 AM |
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Bullshit, you certainly do seem to be "giving a crap". n/t |
PavePusher |
Nov-13-11 06:33 PM |
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Your item 1 has been debunked |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 10:45 PM |
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will you stop leaving me in suspense??? |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 03:34 PM |
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it is called a radio |
gejohnston |
Nov-13-11 03:45 PM |
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and what do they do with this "radio"? |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 03:46 PM |
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before laptops in cars |
gejohnston |
Nov-13-11 04:32 PM |
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Mobile Data Terminals are all the rage these days in police cars |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-13-11 05:46 PM |
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c'mon, you can do it |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 07:17 PM |
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Already covered elsewhere |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-13-11 09:22 PM |
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link? |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 10:39 PM |
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ah, "Drivers License" |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 07:15 PM |
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Answered several times previously |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-13-11 05:28 PM |
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Nov-13-11 07:23 PM |
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Answered previously |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-13-11 09:35 PM |
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"Do I need to give you another lecture on Police IT systems?" |
iverglas |
Nov-13-11 10:43 PM |
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Nov-13-11 06:32 PM |
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What a douchbag - and glad she cooled her d-bag heels in the local gaol |
jpak |
Nov-12-11 09:19 AM |
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And will win yet another suit against the city |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 09:31 AM |
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Open Carry still sucks |
jpak |
Nov-12-11 09:43 AM |
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You got a fat wallet? |
one-eyed fat man |
Nov-12-11 09:45 AM |
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Which is why I normally carried concealed |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-12-11 10:42 AM |
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You are OK with |
gejohnston |
Nov-12-11 11:57 AM |
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Had she done it in Wyoming, she would |
gejohnston |
Nov-13-11 12:24 AM |
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And the taxpayers will "gladly" pay for your pleasure? Guess you don't live there. |
SteveM |
Nov-14-11 01:56 PM |
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