TheMadMonk
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Thu Nov-03-11 10:18 AM
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| 10. 1. no. 2. definitely. 3. Man from Prudential coughs up if owner's negligence... |
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...results in his gun being used in a crime.
1) AFAIK very few if any states permit the use of deadly force to protect mere property in a public place. Protection of person is another thing and the threat still has to be credible, serious and imminent.
2) The threat to her was credible, serious and imminent. Even a police officer trained to handle an armed asailant would be justified in this situation.
3) Um, you can't see the controversy in an insurance company offering insurance against willful negligence and paying out cheerfully, but refusing to honour their commitment to insure the life of a child.
Why? Perhaps because they treat policies of all types the same way, max/lifetime payout. Bundle them up using the simplest of averages as a flat valuation, then sell them in bundles of 10,000 assorted policies off as investments. Which means of course never paying out over that pre-established value.
They'll have their own little toxic CDS problem if/when judges ever actually force insurers to honour medical insurance properly.
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| -10-Year-Old With Gun Threatens Woman After She Jokes About Taking His Halloween Candy |
Cirque du So-What |
Nov-03-11 08:49 AM |
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Kids shouldn't have guns. Whoever allowed the kid access to the gun should be |
valerief |
Nov-03-11 08:54 AM |
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Well, yeah, I was working from that basic premise as well |
Cirque du So-What |
Nov-03-11 09:11 AM |
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It's amazing that it isn't a bad thing to some people. "Well, we make sure our kids is fully trained |
valerief |
Nov-03-11 09:56 AM |
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Can you city that assertion that "it isn't a bad thing to some people" please. |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-03-11 12:37 PM |
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You're not paying attention then. I find things via the Google. And I listen to people. nt |
valerief |
Nov-03-11 12:48 PM |
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I take that to mean "no" you cannot cite such an utterance, statement, or writing. |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-03-11 01:02 PM |
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If you're so interested, google it. I won't stop you. Really. nt |
valerief |
Nov-03-11 01:05 PM |
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YOU made the ridiculous assertion. It is your responsibility to prove it. |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-03-11 01:11 PM |
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No, it isn't my responsibility. It really, really isn't. nt |
valerief |
Nov-03-11 01:12 PM |
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Um, yes it it. You made a ridiculous statement that has no proof or evidence and |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-03-11 01:16 PM |
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No. It isn't. You want something, then pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get it yourself. |
valerief |
Nov-03-11 01:34 PM |
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After exhaustive research of print and online material I have discovered that your claim is Bullshit... |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-04-11 12:25 AM |
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Chirp, chirp, chirp. |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-08-11 07:47 PM |
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Looks like valerief was not able to find any evidence supporting the claim either. I'll take your |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-11-11 03:06 PM |
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Responsibility: Why don't you take it instead of lecturing on it. nt |
SteveM |
Nov-03-11 03:55 PM |
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I think you posted to the wrong person. nt |
valerief |
Nov-03-11 06:24 PM |
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Yes, it is. It really, really is. |
Euromutt |
Nov-04-11 02:14 AM |
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now go look up "disingenuous" |
iverglas |
Nov-04-11 05:21 AM |
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Holy shit.... |
PavePusher |
Nov-08-11 11:04 PM |
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"Squawk! Squawk!" |
SteveM |
Nov-03-11 03:55 PM |
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absolutely - right here |
DrDan |
Nov-09-11 04:14 AM |
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I was trained before I was 10. It helped my judgment as well. |
SteveM |
Nov-03-11 03:54 PM |
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So you oppose training kids in gun safety? |
pipoman |
Nov-04-11 06:04 AM |
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here is one cite - from just the past few days |
DrDan |
Nov-09-11 05:17 AM |
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The 'wingers here in "my cubicle hell" like to mock the Cleveland gun buy-back program |
Kolesar |
Nov-03-11 09:57 AM |
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How can it be a "buy back" since Cleveland never owned them in the first place? |
oneshooter |
Nov-04-11 07:25 AM |
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obtuse ... eom |
Kolesar |
Nov-04-11 12:13 PM |
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So if you are asked a question that you will not, or more likely can not |
oneshooter |
Nov-04-11 03:43 PM |
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Georgia, oh Georgia, no peace I find |
Kolesar |
Nov-03-11 08:56 AM |
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Aiken's actually in South Carolina |
Euromutt |
Nov-03-11 04:50 PM |
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Total lack of parental supervision. |
Remmah2 |
Nov-03-11 09:05 AM |
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Unless you give him a gun, of course. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-03-11 09:28 AM |
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10yo pulls a gun on me I'm putting them down before they become a danger to society. |
ileus |
Nov-03-11 09:25 AM |
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Yeah, me too. |
slackmaster |
Nov-03-11 01:20 PM |
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Umbrella liability insurance. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-03-11 09:44 AM |
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1. no. 2. definitely. 3. Man from Prudential coughs up if owner's negligence... |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-03-11 10:18 AM |
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"deadly force to protect mere property in a public place" |
iverglas |
Nov-03-11 10:30 AM |
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Yes it's called robbery. But there still has to be a credible threat... |
TheMadMonk |
Nov-03-11 12:44 PM |
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that ain't the law |
iverglas |
Nov-03-11 01:24 PM |
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Yup, all kids should automatically be issued CCW permits after passing safe handling tests |
Starboard Tack |
Nov-03-11 04:24 PM |
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Two kids had guns. |
Atypical Liberal |
Nov-03-11 10:24 AM |
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absolutely |
iverglas |
Nov-03-11 10:25 AM |
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Nov-03-11 11:50 AM |
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Most people who don't own homes RENT them, and renter's insurance is a very good thing to have |
slackmaster |
Nov-03-11 11:57 AM |
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This is what our "Gun Culture" gets us. It will only get worse until action taken to make guns all |
Hoyt |
Nov-03-11 12:02 PM |
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Still hoping for a rise in crime rates, eh? How very progressive of you... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Nov-03-11 12:31 PM |
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Nope, just commented on another 10 year old kid emulating his gun toting heroes. |
Hoyt |
Nov-03-11 01:37 PM |
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When are you going to get rid of yours? |
oneshooter |
Nov-03-11 01:12 PM |
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Your "taboo:" The Font of corruption, prohibitionism, and false morality. nt |
SteveM |
Nov-03-11 04:00 PM |
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Okay, you go start with the criminals |
Union Scribe |
Nov-03-11 06:28 PM |
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Hollywood must be in on the conspiracy. |
Remmah2 |
Nov-04-11 08:00 AM |
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The toters here like to say they are part of "gun culture" like that makes packing in public dandy. |
Hoyt |
Nov-04-11 10:12 AM |
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Cite, please. n/t |
PavePusher |
Nov-08-11 11:05 PM |
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Hell yeah! This is 'Merica damn it! |
Glassunion |
Nov-03-11 12:16 PM |
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toter or treat |
ileus |
Nov-03-11 06:38 PM |
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Halloween is such a rude time of year! |
Union Scribe |
Nov-04-11 02:24 AM |
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I see a it of a disconnect between "stuff for which actual victims should be able to sue" and... |
Euromutt |
Nov-04-11 05:17 AM |
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