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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:36 AM
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2. The next election cycle will make the difference
Even some of the hard core Chicago reps are changing their tune on concealed carry. With Daley not only gone, but being exposed for the financial fraud he was, almost on a daily basis, his "rules" are fading fast.

Here's a clip of Cliff Kelley, former alderman and a major voice on WVON in the Chicago African American community at a recent meeting on the South Side. This is a sharp 180 from the position Cliff used to have.

http://www.starplanettv.com/cliff%20kelley.html

When Daley was running things you would have never heard anything like this from Chicago reps.

All we need are 6 more votes for both CCW and pre-emption in Illinois.

I'm hoping more Dems change their vote, or we're going to lose even more seats, including the Governor's office next time around. Between the 67% tax hike, property taxes going up 30%, closing police and fire stations in Cook County and the shift in opinions on CCW there's a lot of unrest with the status quo.
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  -Only one left. Atypical Liberal  Nov-02-11 10:21 AM   #0 
  - Turn Green America...  ileus   Nov-02-11 10:25 AM   #1 
  - The next election cycle will make the difference  DonP   Nov-02-11 10:36 AM   #2 
  - Yeah, unregulated guns are the answer.  RC   Nov-02-11 10:45 AM   #3 
  - Which state has unregulated guns?  DonP   Nov-02-11 10:48 AM   #5 
  - If anyone was proposing that, you would have a point.  cleanhippie   Nov-02-11 10:52 AM   #10 
  - Guns are HIGHLY regulated  ObamaFTW2012   Nov-03-11 07:27 PM   #40 
  - Leave us alone.  jaxx   Nov-02-11 10:47 AM   #4 
  - +1  Gidney N Cloyd   Nov-02-11 10:50 AM   #6 
  - Wrong again, as usual  DonP   Nov-02-11 10:51 AM   #7 
  - It didn't work, did it?  jaxx   Nov-02-11 11:12 AM   #12 
     - The influence of the former Emperor of Chicago...  -..__...   Nov-02-11 11:39 AM   #17 
     - That one made me laugh.  jaxx   Nov-02-11 11:45 AM   #20 
     - Enjoy it while you can.  -..__...   Nov-02-11 11:47 AM   #21 
     - Mike Madigan is still running things.  Gidney N Cloyd   Nov-02-11 11:50 AM   #23 
        - How many seats do you figure Mike is willing to lose over this?  DonP   Nov-02-11 12:16 PM   #26 
     - Yeah, that's why we're only 6 votes away from it.  DonP   Nov-02-11 11:41 AM   #18 
        - Do you live in IL?  jaxx   Nov-02-11 11:44 AM   #19 
           - Yes I do for the last 60+ years along with most of my extended family too.  DonP   Nov-02-11 12:13 PM   #25 
  - YOU don't want CC in IL. I fixed it for ya.  cleanhippie   Nov-02-11 10:51 AM   #8 
  - Lame.  jaxx   Nov-02-11 11:13 AM   #13 
  - Not half as lame as you trying to speak for all in your state.  cleanhippie   Nov-02-11 02:13 PM   #31 
  - welcome to the Guns forum  iverglas   Nov-02-11 09:16 PM   #34 
  - No...lot's of people want lot's of things.  ileus   Nov-02-11 11:50 AM   #22 
  - "we" might be appropriate.  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-02-11 12:48 PM   #27 
  - do you speak for most  gejohnston   Nov-02-11 10:51 AM   #9 
  - Must be most since it won't pass, dontcha think?  jaxx   Nov-02-11 11:13 AM   #14 
     - Most people want single payer  gejohnston   Nov-02-11 04:33 PM   #32 
  - Lot's of peeps in the Carbondale and Marion area seem to want CC  ileus   Nov-02-11 10:56 AM   #11 
  - Lots of people want lots of things.  jaxx   Nov-02-11 11:14 AM   #15 
     - I beg to differ.  AtheistCrusader   Nov-02-11 12:01 PM   #24 
     - Obviously...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-02-11 12:50 PM   #28 
     - So why do police carry them? For decoration? n/t  Atypical Liberal   Nov-02-11 01:37 PM   #30 
     - guns are problem solvers for the right wing  iverglas   Nov-02-11 09:17 PM   #35 
     - That certainly explains Vermont's laissez faire gun laws.  friendly_iconoclast   Nov-02-11 10:48 PM   #38 
        - those ones are easy to explain  iverglas   Nov-03-11 02:04 PM   #39 
     - That would depend upon what the problem is.  GreenStormCloud   Nov-04-11 09:42 AM   #43 
  - They didn't want emancipation in Alabama, either.  Atypical Liberal   Nov-02-11 01:34 PM   #29 
  - What are you basing that on? Polls?  Logical   Nov-03-11 11:13 PM   #42 
  - K&R...  Iktomiwicasa   Nov-02-11 11:33 AM   #16 
  - Yellow states?  -..__...   Nov-02-11 09:25 PM   #36 
  - MA will get there sooner if some police chief obliges a plaintiff w/ a flat denial  friendly_iconoclast   Nov-02-11 10:45 PM   #37 
  - It will be shortly after the National Reciprocity Act passes and is signed.  GreenStormCloud   Nov-04-11 09:45 AM   #44 
  - But, but, but the majority of people favor gun control and  rl6214   Nov-02-11 09:05 PM   #33 
  - Well, here's the problem  krispos42   Nov-03-11 09:45 PM   #41 
 

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