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Mon Oct-31-11 01:05 PM
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| 186. I never said it was OK for the police to violate civil rights. |
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So, it's O.K. for the police to violate Civil Rights, simply because people are exercising them? I have no idea why you seem to be siding with the police on this.
I never said it is OK for the police to violate civil rights, nor am I siding with the police.
I am saying that anyone smart enough to own a gun ought to have known what carrying one to a political process would provide an excuse for the police to violate civil rights.
I don't know why you seem to be siding with people who are actively damaging the effort.
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| -Open carry at Occupy Atlanta protest gets it shut down. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 10:45 AM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Oct-28-11 10:48 AM |
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Teabagger? |
Turbineguy |
Oct-28-11 10:49 AM |
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Almost certainly |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 10:53 AM |
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Yes he was - an unemployed accountant that "didn't support" the Occupy movement |
jpak |
Oct-28-11 11:22 AM |
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You don't understand what you read, do you? |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 11:36 AM |
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Agent provocateur for "progressives." Play to "Puppet on a String"... |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:19 PM |
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5-4-3-2-1 |
TheCowsCameHome |
Oct-28-11 10:49 AM |
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K&R !!! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Oct-28-11 10:50 AM |
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ugh |
YllwFvr |
Oct-28-11 10:55 AM |
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Then you don't really support open carry |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:02 AM |
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Hogwash. |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-28-11 11:23 AM |
#33 |
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You're confused. |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:37 AM |
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No I'm not claiming that. |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-28-11 07:17 PM |
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i oc regularly |
YllwFvr |
Oct-28-11 11:34 AM |
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You support OC if someone exercises their right in a certain way |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:40 AM |
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I think the argument is more that |
rbixby |
Oct-28-11 12:27 PM |
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Wow! I don't remember Tea Party rallies getting shut down because someone was carrying a rifle! |
KansDem |
Oct-28-11 10:55 AM |
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Good point |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 11:01 AM |
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Exactly. It wasn't a reason, it was an excuse. |
MNBrewer |
Oct-28-11 11:09 AM |
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It tells me that you shouldn't give him an excuse. n/t |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 12:21 PM |
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Well, maybe like your second or third photo. |
Straw Man |
Oct-28-11 11:05 AM |
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I see your point |
KansDem |
Oct-28-11 11:25 AM |
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The Right Wing knows how to play most any "liberal" politician, now... |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:28 PM |
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Did the baggers have an event in Atlanta with guns? |
Donnachaidh |
Oct-28-11 11:10 AM |
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Try getting in without one. |
Starboard Tack |
Oct-28-11 11:17 AM |
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The mayor was shutting down a "liberal" demo, not a "conservative" one... |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:24 PM |
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Very astute observation. I think the Atlanta PD was looking for an excuse to shut down Occupy. |
slackmaster |
Oct-28-11 03:27 PM |
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signal to other teabaggers of the effectiveness of this well-poisoning exercise |
yodermon |
Oct-28-11 10:58 AM |
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Esp. in cities/locales governed by Stimulus/Response "liberal" pols. |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:29 PM |
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".It was an unnecessary escalation" |
DesMoinesDem |
Oct-28-11 11:01 AM |
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The purpose of carrying the rifle was intimidation. Intimidation is a crime. |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:09 AM |
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Really? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:13 AM |
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Read my post. It doesn't have to be used. nt |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:14 AM |
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Legally, to be considered brandishing or intimidating... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:16 AM |
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And you have no idea whether it was or wasn't. |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:19 AM |
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I read the OP... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:26 AM |
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Was he arrested? What was the charge? Still waiting. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:39 PM |
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But you do? |
beevul |
Oct-28-11 06:29 PM |
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Was the man with the gun arrested? We'll wait. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:38 PM |
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Yes, I know exactly why he carried it. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 12:26 PM |
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Good enough reason right there. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 12:36 PM |
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THE CARRIER EXPRESSLY SAID WHY HE WAS CARRYING HIS RIFLE |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 12:32 PM |
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Perhaps it was |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 12:38 PM |
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He needlessly co-opted and damaged the Occupy Atlanta effort. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 01:28 PM |
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Your interpretation is not the only one |
Oneka |
Oct-28-11 01:58 PM |
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OK, then... |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 02:03 PM |
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Symbol: |
Oneka |
Oct-28-11 02:21 PM |
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Riiight. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 02:29 PM |
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Does it bother you... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 02:34 PM |
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Doesn't bother me at all. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 03:28 PM |
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He did not fuck it up. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 03:44 PM |
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He was the precipitant. He provided the excuse. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 04:33 PM |
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That we can agree on entirely |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 04:36 PM |
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But anyone smart enough to own a gun should have known that bait would be taken. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-29-11 08:46 AM |
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Huh?! |
PavePusher |
Oct-29-11 12:12 PM |
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Anyone who is smart enough to own a gun and is up on current events |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-29-11 10:20 PM |
#184 |
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So, it's O.K. for the police to violate Civil Rights, simply because people are exercising them? |
PavePusher |
Oct-29-11 10:59 PM |
#185 |
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I never said it was OK for the police to violate civil rights. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-31-11 01:05 PM |
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Or perhaps the police waited until he left.... |
PavePusher |
Oct-29-11 03:07 AM |
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It was in no way intimidation. If it was he would have been arrested. |
DesMoinesDem |
Oct-28-11 11:20 AM |
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Blah blah blah. |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:22 AM |
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Did it? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:31 AM |
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Thats gonna leave a mark. |
beevul |
Oct-28-11 06:33 PM |
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Checkmate, music. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:40 PM |
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"The purpose of carrying the rifle was intimidation." |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 11:21 AM |
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A hypothetical for your 2A Fantasy World. |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:26 AM |
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Just because they have them... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:32 AM |
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So the bloodbath would be unfortunate, but a necessary evil |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:44 AM |
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Dodge. n/t |
PavePusher |
Oct-28-11 12:06 PM |
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Not at all.. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 12:20 PM |
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Nice strawman and you have already abandon your debunked "its intimidation" meme |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 11:36 AM |
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I include the scenario as a bonus, because you can't respond to that either. nt |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:42 AM |
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Its clearly not intimidation or the police would have intervened |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 11:53 AM |
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Clearly we responded to both |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 12:22 PM |
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Your hypothetical is just stoopid |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 11:43 AM |
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Until you inform yourself you're wasting my time |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:47 AM |
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You don't read well |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 12:14 PM |
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Unloaded only in California. |
PavePusher |
Oct-28-11 12:07 PM |
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You give us "hypotheticals;" you got this fact: A "liberal" mayor shut down OWS... |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:42 PM |
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Are you... |
beevul |
Oct-28-11 06:35 PM |
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Police did not stop or charge him |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 11:35 AM |
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You're telepathic? |
PavePusher |
Oct-28-11 12:05 PM |
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Perhaps you helped create the atmosphere for this shut-down... |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:37 PM |
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The gun is in this scenario is an implied threat. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 12:25 PM |
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He called it "unnecessary escalation," I call it "convenient excuse." nt |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:30 PM |
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It is only ok if Teabaggers do it. Is this a violation of both the first and second now? |
Exultant Democracy |
Oct-28-11 11:02 AM |
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Yeah, and it took a "liberal" mayor to do it. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:44 PM |
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Just find a way to get the guy out of there. |
kayakjohnny |
Oct-28-11 11:04 AM |
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I'm sure the NRA will come out strongly and loudly against this action. |
cui bono |
Oct-28-11 11:07 AM |
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Everyone should. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:10 AM |
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Successfully stick up a 7-Eleven with a Koran |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:13 AM |
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If he stuck up a 7-11 you would have a point. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:15 AM |
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#1 You will go to jail for holding up a store whether the weapon is loaded, or not |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:17 AM |
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I agree |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:21 AM |
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You will go to jail for holding up a store with a koran, too. |
DesMoinesDem |
Oct-28-11 11:23 AM |
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LOL you've jumped the shark |
wtmusic |
Oct-28-11 11:27 AM |
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Somehow that comes across as... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:28 AM |
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Of course you're done. You have no argument. |
DesMoinesDem |
Oct-28-11 11:34 AM |
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Before or after... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:35 AM |
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Go ahead and try it. |
DesMoinesDem |
Oct-28-11 11:39 AM |
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"and I'm done" |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 11:44 AM |
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You were done a while ago. |
PavePusher |
Oct-28-11 12:33 PM |
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Declaring victory and pulling out? Been done many times, here. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:45 PM |
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You were done from the start, never having had a legitimate argument. N/T |
Marengo |
Oct-29-11 12:07 PM |
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My comment was directed at the probable hypocrisy of the NRA, etc... |
cui bono |
Oct-28-11 11:31 AM |
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I am for more, not less of that |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 11:07 AM |
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Yeah - more douchebaggery - less sense |
jpak |
Oct-28-11 11:24 AM |
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You tend to forget the role that active armed resistance played in the civil rights movement |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 11:32 AM |
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Yeah - MLK, the NAACP and the SCL were toters - NOT |
jpak |
Oct-28-11 06:47 PM |
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how bout this for history. |
Oneka |
Oct-28-11 08:23 PM |
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Your revisionist history is a fail |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 10:26 PM |
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99% of us don't carry guns in public. |
Starboard Tack |
Oct-28-11 11:25 AM |
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So what? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 11:27 AM |
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I think the empty holster approach is a good compromise |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 11:34 AM |
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a good compromise is unloaded carry...or maybe FMJ's only. |
ileus |
Oct-28-11 12:17 PM |
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Why not carry a sign? Most people would not recognize a gun holster. |
Starboard Tack |
Oct-28-11 12:52 PM |
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Wearing an empty holster is being used as a demonstration/protest tactic |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 01:56 PM |
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That's what they count on... |
ileus |
Oct-28-11 02:22 PM |
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"They" being? |
Starboard Tack |
Oct-28-11 03:22 PM |
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It wasn't a reason, it was an excuse. |
one-eyed fat man |
Oct-28-11 11:28 AM |
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Everyone needs to show back up open carrying now...grabbers use any excuse to shut the people down. |
ileus |
Oct-28-11 11:44 AM |
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What a moran. |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-28-11 12:03 PM |
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No it isnt. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 12:23 PM |
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It's only a threat to you if you intend to do violence to him. |
PavePusher |
Oct-28-11 12:35 PM |
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I agee 100% that open carrying at such events is a bad idea and unnecessary escalation. |
Hoyt |
Oct-28-11 12:09 PM |
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Of course you do |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 12:15 PM |
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Of course you believe guns belong everywhere including a peaceful protest. |
Hoyt |
Oct-28-11 12:41 PM |
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Nothing wrong with his showing solidarity with the protestors |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 02:17 PM |
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Wonder what other rights the mayor is afraid of? |
ileus |
Oct-28-11 12:16 PM |
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I think I grew up with some of the Aholes making comments on the examiner link. |
Hoyt |
Oct-28-11 12:17 PM |
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He has a point about Farakahn...between him and George Will, I only wear them with a tuxedo now |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 12:22 PM |
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Hey, don't let others co-opt things. |
PavePusher |
Oct-28-11 12:37 PM |
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If he'd left it at "bow ties," I'd agree. Never could tie them. But don't get caught in gun action. |
Hoyt |
Oct-28-11 12:39 PM |
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Bow ties would be very hard to get caught in the action of a firearm |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 01:54 PM |
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You would need to have a very odd way of holding your gun |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 02:21 PM |
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M-1 style top bolt with a long tie |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 02:26 PM |
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You support Farahkan? |
rl6214 |
Oct-28-11 02:19 PM |
#116 |
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What about his haberdasher? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 02:27 PM |
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Nope, I'm against some redneck bigot gun lover referring to Atlanta's mayor that way. |
Hoyt |
Oct-28-11 07:25 PM |
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And since when did you love atlanta's mayor? |
rl6214 |
Oct-29-11 08:37 PM |
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I think you did to. n/t |
oneshooter |
Oct-28-11 06:21 PM |
#145 |
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One reason I suspect people sporting guns -- too many are racist, right wingers out to intimidate. |
Hoyt |
Oct-28-11 07:27 PM |
#154 |
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Wow, they actually called in the cavalry. |
Callisto32 |
Oct-28-11 12:40 PM |
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Please don't imply that those were "military tactics". |
PavePusher |
Oct-28-11 12:56 PM |
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Why? |
Callisto32 |
Oct-28-11 02:01 PM |
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Because they are not |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 02:24 PM |
#121 |
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We're not talking about "honor". |
PavePusher |
Oct-29-11 02:41 PM |
#176 |
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It they had used military tactics... |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 01:55 PM |
#107 |
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What using warhorses to escalate the level of violence is somehow NOT militaristic? |
Callisto32 |
Oct-28-11 02:06 PM |
#113 |
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Was it a calvary charge? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 02:22 PM |
#119 |
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Two words: Peterloo Massacre |
Euromutt |
Oct-28-11 03:54 PM |
#137 |
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Peterloo was a very interesting incident, but not at all like OWC |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 05:48 PM |
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I should have been more clear: I brought up Peterloo as a contrasting example |
Euromutt |
Oct-29-11 01:36 AM |
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To fellow Second Amendment supporters: |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 01:59 PM |
#110 |
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The main problem here. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 02:10 PM |
#114 |
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It is being cited as a cover for the mayor, but it was clearly already in work |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 02:32 PM |
#125 |
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Thanks for your post... |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 03:00 PM |
#127 |
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Not confrontational? |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 03:31 PM |
#133 |
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His words my have been confrontational |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 03:46 PM |
#135 |
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You cannot separate one from the other. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 04:31 PM |
#138 |
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Really? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Oct-28-11 04:35 PM |
#140 |
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They bring a knife |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-28-11 06:44 PM |
#150 |
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Thus |
Oneka |
Oct-28-11 08:14 PM |
#155 |
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I guess I don't see it that way... |
SteveM |
Oct-28-11 03:53 PM |
#136 |
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He wasn't threatening you. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-28-11 04:36 PM |
#142 |
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why is it |
Oneka |
Oct-28-11 08:34 PM |
#157 |
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The implication was plain. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-29-11 08:50 AM |
#169 |
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You are right about the implication being plain. |
Oneka |
Oct-29-11 04:30 PM |
#177 |
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We will just have to agree to disagree. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-29-11 10:17 PM |
#183 |
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If it was so "confrontational"... |
PavePusher |
Oct-29-11 03:23 AM |
#167 |
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Yeah, only Teabags get to carry assault weapons. Everybody knows that. nt |
mistertrickster |
Oct-28-11 03:18 PM |
#128 |
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Liberals have no gun rights |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-28-11 03:27 PM |
#130 |
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Heh, they haven't seen the inside of my gun safes . . . nt |
mistertrickster |
Oct-28-11 04:39 PM |
#143 |
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They must think I'm a repuke down at the gun shop also. |
ileus |
Oct-29-11 12:36 PM |
#175 |
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They probably don't care |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-29-11 05:48 PM |
#180 |
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Damn I didn't know that they could all afford "assault rifles" |
oneshooter |
Oct-28-11 06:33 PM |
#148 |
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But there are cheaper knock offs. Century Arms has these AKs |
mistertrickster |
Oct-28-11 10:22 PM |
#158 |
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I always liked the M-1 carbine |
gejohnston |
Oct-28-11 10:45 PM |
#160 |
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ME TOO. Haven't scored one of those yet. |
mistertrickster |
Oct-28-11 10:49 PM |
#161 |
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Have you tried the CMP? good prices for inspected original weapons. |
oneshooter |
Oct-29-11 11:13 AM |
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I qualified with both the M16 and the M1 carbine in the Air Force ... |
spin |
Oct-28-11 10:52 PM |
#162 |
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I think the M1 carbine was basically developed for the Air Force. |
mistertrickster |
Oct-28-11 10:57 PM |
#163 |
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No, it was developed for truck drivers, radio operators, cooks, etc. |
Euromutt |
Oct-29-11 01:40 AM |
#165 |
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I knew somebody would give me the full story, heh. Thanks for the info. nt |
mistertrickster |
Oct-29-11 10:12 AM |
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They were developed for support army troops |
gejohnston |
Oct-29-11 06:15 PM |
#181 |
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That was not a "knock off" but the real thing. It was built with the happy switch. n/t |
oneshooter |
Oct-29-11 11:10 AM |
#171 |
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I bet if it had been an AR instead of a AK things would have been ok. |
ileus |
Oct-29-11 04:54 PM |
#178 |
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As long as he wasn't breaking any laws, he was fine. |
aikoaiko |
Oct-29-11 05:26 PM |
#179 |
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