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Sat Oct-15-11 03:24 PM
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| 61. Perhaps not, but you are a denier of reality, where F&F is concerned. N/T |
| -A sane person’s guide to ‘Fast and Furious’ |
DanTex |
Oct-14-11 09:51 AM |
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Duplicate post |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-14-11 09:57 AM |
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What a farce |
Lurks Often |
Oct-14-11 10:22 AM |
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You state exactly why we know there was no intent to trace |
DissedByBush |
Dec-08-11 09:10 PM |
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I have no idea why |
gejohnston |
Oct-14-11 10:51 AM |
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My question is where did the 65,000 number come from? |
Glassunion |
Oct-14-11 11:45 AM |
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Update on ATF foolishness |
Remmah2 |
Oct-14-11 12:15 PM |
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Obviously we need to close the Grenade Show Loophole n/t |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Oct-20-11 02:31 PM |
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Holder is a liar.. |
Upton |
Oct-14-11 12:53 PM |
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So-o-o, Dan, whatever happened to Sharyl Atkkisson (CBS)? She go insane? nt |
SteveM |
Oct-14-11 01:03 PM |
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Definitely not a tracking operation. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-14-11 01:54 PM |
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Conspiracy theories... |
DanTex |
Oct-14-11 05:22 PM |
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Only if you call CBS |
gejohnston |
Oct-14-11 06:01 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
DanTex |
Oct-14-11 06:04 PM |
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No it seems like |
gejohnston |
Oct-14-11 06:11 PM |
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That just doesn't hold water. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-14-11 06:12 PM |
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Really , tracking operation gone awry? |
Oneka |
Oct-14-11 08:05 PM |
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Actually, what we do know |
Abq_Sarah |
Oct-14-11 10:22 PM |
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That's what I think too. Thanks for posting and subjecting yourself to wrath of the gun obsessed. |
Hoyt |
Oct-14-11 02:27 PM |
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Explain to me |
one-eyed fat man |
Oct-14-11 04:06 PM |
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Objectively? |
gejohnston |
Oct-14-11 05:11 PM |
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Not when it comes to your precious guns -- that's for sure. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 12:19 AM |
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So you don't believe that people died as a result of the ATF operation, or that |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-14-11 06:12 PM |
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"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" They protest too much, methinks |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-14-11 06:33 PM |
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I believe gun trafficking in this country is out of control. That's why it was done. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 12:12 AM |
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For the Nth time Hoyt, This was NO botched sting. |
beevul |
Oct-15-11 04:43 AM |
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So, I am not an apologist for the so-called "gun culture." |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 11:55 AM |
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Perhaps not, but you are a denier of reality, where F&F is concerned. N/T |
beevul |
Oct-15-11 03:24 PM |
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Oh boy, this is going to have to go line by line I guess. |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-15-11 01:59 PM |
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I'm old enough to remember when certain persons were very emphatic about describing Watergate as |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-14-11 06:26 PM |
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Hoyt, you also believe that a red dot sight is for long range sniping. n/t |
oneshooter |
Oct-14-11 06:54 PM |
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You believe red dots are to help you clear a room -- like you'd ever need to do that in your wildest |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 12:07 AM |
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why would we have to clear a room? |
gejohnston |
Oct-15-11 12:11 AM |
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If ;you are acting in the capacity of a policeman, no problem from me. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 11:51 AM |
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wannabe what? |
gejohnston |
Oct-15-11 01:42 PM |
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Old and busted =Clearing a room |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-15-11 07:34 AM |
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That's what some gunner here said was the purpose of his red dot sights. BS I know, but he said it. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 11:52 AM |
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Got a link to this claimed post? We'll wait, as you have a donor star and can easily search for it. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-15-11 01:44 PM |
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You must be kidding!!!! |
oneshooter |
Oct-16-11 10:54 AM |
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Yeah, but it's just another example of his mouth writing a check that his ass can't cash n/t |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-16-11 02:23 PM |
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Yes, like "dodge and shoot." |
Straw Man |
Dec-09-11 12:00 PM |
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Here, I'll attempt to educate you. |
PavePusher |
Oct-15-11 10:53 PM |
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No, not a fantasy. Done it numerous times for real. Urban combat is not |
oneshooter |
Dec-09-11 12:58 PM |
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So the folks who blew the whistle on this |
Oneka |
Oct-14-11 08:40 PM |
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No one is defending it. But gunners' attempts to bring down the whole administration is misplaced |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 12:18 AM |
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"No one is defending it" but those who investigate it are " on a witch hunt" |
beevul |
Oct-15-11 04:45 AM |
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What we want is answers |
one-eyed fat man |
Oct-15-11 08:04 AM |
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"No one is defending it." Really? |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-15-11 02:29 PM |
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You are mistaken, dear |
Abq_Sarah |
Oct-14-11 10:37 PM |
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Oh, you must be in a militia. I support the ACLU position on guns, particularly toting in public. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 11:48 AM |
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Do also support the ACLU |
gejohnston |
Oct-15-11 01:28 PM |
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I support the ACLU position also. See the link below |
tortoise1956 |
Oct-15-11 01:58 PM |
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I support their National Policy on guns -- which will make many of you pucker. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 03:46 PM |
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Thank you Hoyt. You have nailed the critical bullshit of Bookman's piece. |
aikoaiko |
Oct-15-11 07:26 AM |
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Of course you qualify as a human attempting to imitate an ostrich .... |
spin |
Oct-15-11 03:14 PM |
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At least I just stick my head in the sand. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 10:05 PM |
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Hoyt, that is not sand you are sticking your head into. n/t |
oneshooter |
Oct-15-11 10:20 PM |
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Yeah.... warmer, wetter and more odorous... n/t |
PavePusher |
Oct-15-11 10:56 PM |
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Appreciate the first hand info. |
Hoyt |
Oct-16-11 12:01 AM |
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You can google insructions for safe removal. n/t |
oneshooter |
Oct-16-11 10:56 AM |
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We are talking to you.... |
PavePusher |
Oct-16-11 10:59 AM |
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A big fat Scotsman... |
Straw Man |
Oct-14-11 09:35 PM |
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F&F ranges from dumb-assed to criminal |
Kennah |
Oct-14-11 10:24 PM |
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It's got nothing to do with these right wing conspiracies and everything |
rl6214 |
Oct-14-11 10:29 PM |
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You would be laughed off of CUATF.org |
Tejas |
Oct-15-11 06:02 AM |
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Bookman: There’s no question that F&F represents a serious failure of federal law enforcement |
aikoaiko |
Oct-15-11 07:19 AM |
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Well, they've indicted over 30 suspects who were trafficking guns -- that sounds pretty good to me. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 12:35 PM |
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You really love the "you're either with us or against" posturing, dont you? |
aikoaiko |
Oct-15-11 01:13 PM |
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Like I said and you confirmed, any threat to the gun pipeline worries you guys. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 01:36 PM |
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Well, we agree that more needs to be done to stop gun running into Mexico. |
aikoaiko |
Oct-15-11 02:47 PM |
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Too bad you don't look at guns in public the same way when they contribute to deaths.. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 03:36 PM |
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Violations of law should be prosecuted. Do you believe that the ATF |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-15-11 04:11 PM |
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"they've indicted over 30 suspects |
Oneka |
Oct-15-11 01:40 PM |
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Why, that's less than four deaths per indictment! I can't understand why people are complaining... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-15-11 01:49 PM |
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Again, too bad you don't express the same moral outrage when some gun nut kills someone. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 03:38 PM |
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Again, do you believe that the ATF violated U.S. laws, Mexican laws, and/or International laws |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-15-11 04:10 PM |
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Story needs update to include "sane" outlook on walking grenades. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-15-11 12:40 PM |
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You mean the guy who was made an informant. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 01:37 PM |
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And exported the parts for 2,000 grenades: |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-15-11 02:34 PM |
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Some people really do believe that you can't make an omelet without |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-15-11 02:38 PM |
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Too bad you don't get enraged when some gun nut shoots someone without reason. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 03:40 PM |
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LOL, "gun nut". How quaint. Say, don't you have some questions to answer? |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-15-11 04:01 PM |
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Do you get enraged when someone gets busted w/ child porn on their computer? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-15-11 10:04 PM |
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I do get enraged, and I see no reason to have such photos at home or strapped to my body. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 10:07 PM |
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You never did answer those questions |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-16-11 08:08 PM |
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Yep, they were trying to get to the people who ordered the use of deadly weapons. |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 03:39 PM |
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By giving them deadly weapons? How did that work out again? |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-15-11 04:06 PM |
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No .. they really wern't |
Oneka |
Oct-15-11 06:29 PM |
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Thye've already indicted over 30 of them. They'll get more if you gunners would quit whining about |
Hoyt |
Oct-15-11 10:09 PM |
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well, they are doing a lousy job |
gejohnston |
Oct-15-11 10:55 PM |
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With no help from the "gun culture." |
Hoyt |
Oct-16-11 12:00 AM |
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you forget |
gejohnston |
Oct-16-11 12:34 AM |
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I disagree. |
beevul |
Oct-16-11 05:18 AM |
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Some were. Some were selling with a big grin on their face and cash in their pocket. |
Hoyt |
Oct-16-11 10:19 AM |
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And how many |
Oneka |
Oct-16-11 07:37 AM |
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If you have to use an ad hominem in the title to make your point, I'd say your point sucks |
Euromutt |
Oct-16-11 06:49 AM |
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CBS done gone nuts! nt |
SteveM |
Oct-16-11 02:19 PM |
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Next up: Giving Al Qaeda stinger missiles as part of an undercover operation. |
chrisa |
Oct-21-11 07:49 AM |
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UPDATE: "Documents: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regulations" |
friendly_iconoclast |
Dec-07-11 09:37 PM |
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Damn those crickets are loud |
gejohnston |
Dec-08-11 05:08 PM |
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Not much activity in the day and a half |
burf |
Dec-09-11 01:02 PM |
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I found a photographic representation of this opinion piece |
slackmaster |
Dec-08-11 05:10 PM |
#97 |
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