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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 07:12 PM
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17. That just doesn't hold water.
Since the facts aren't all out, nothing is "definite", but what we currently know points to a straightforward, non-conspiratorial explanation: they let the guns walk in order to identify bigger fish rather than low-level traffickers. If it were drugs or money, this wouldn't be a big deal, but since we're talking about guns, it is a big deal, because guns kill people.

There are things that neither you nor I understand about F&F, but the mistake you (and others) are making is assuming that just because you aren't able to put the puzzle together, that it can't be put together at all (e.g. "well then YOU explain why there are no stars in any of the Apollo pictures they took on the moon! It's cause it DEFINITELY WASNT ON THE MOON!!!!!!!"). For example, I don't know why Mexico wasn't notified. Maybe they thought Mexico would have the operation shut down. Maybe they were afraid of leaks. Or, as happens frequently in this sort of situation, something that neither of us has thought of. But the fact that we don't yet know the details doesn't even come close to proving that it was anything more than a gun tracking operation gone awry.


There's a huge problem with the gun tracking theory. We know, from Congressional testimony, that this operation involved the at least the FBI, DEA, DHS, ICE, and the IRS. Given the massive amount of resources allocated to this it seems absolutely preposterous that no one would have taken the steps necessary to actually track the firearms across the border. But we know from Congressional testimony that that is exactly the case - there was no attempt to track the firearms once they left the United States.

The rest, as I said before, is speculation.

But given all the easy facts I provided previously, it is easy to see why there is such speculation.

But it is a virtual certainty that this was not a gun tracking operation. You've got at least 5 major government organizations - organizations that are supposed to be working much more closely together since 9/11 - all involved in an operation that made no attempt to actually track the guns.
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