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| -Was "Fast and Furious" a ploy to discredit the firearm industry/enthusiast community? |
GSLevel9 |
Oct-05-11 06:37 PM |
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That's one theory. Another is that it was used to funnel guns into a |
Hoopla Phil |
Oct-05-11 06:41 PM |
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I find it plausible... |
Iktomiwicasa |
Oct-05-11 07:15 PM |
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If it was, it was a misfire |
tularetom |
Oct-05-11 06:50 PM |
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Heh... |
Iktomiwicasa |
Oct-05-11 07:16 PM |
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It was a major FSCKUP at best |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Oct-05-11 07:46 PM |
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Oct-05-11 07:33 PM |
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Oct-05-11 07:57 PM |
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The gang that couldnt shoot straight |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-05-11 07:38 PM |
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LOVE YOUR SOURCE! |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 09:03 AM |
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Gotta love that genetic fallacy. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 11:33 AM |
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gotta love the oft-noted fact |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 12:57 PM |
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Like those well-known reactionaries the Panthers (White *and* Black), Rob Williams, et cetera, etc.. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 02:49 PM |
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you speak for the dead? |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 06:48 PM |
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And nobody in the GLBT forum has ever been able to cite anything but LW opinion |
krispos42 |
Oct-06-11 04:16 PM |
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yes .. and your point was ... |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 06:54 PM |
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This presumes that being left is automatically better. |
krispos42 |
Oct-07-11 05:31 PM |
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"But believing the left is 100% right... that's a stretch" |
iverglas |
Oct-08-11 01:41 PM |
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It's still a stretch. |
krispos42 |
Oct-08-11 08:09 PM |
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Genetic fallacy, now begging the question. |
Callisto32 |
Oct-07-11 05:00 AM |
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a little internet is a dangerous thing |
iverglas |
Oct-07-11 02:23 PM |
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No true Scotsmen, eh? nt |
SteveM |
Oct-07-11 02:45 PM |
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Press 'em hard enough, and the inner inquisitor/zampolit comes out. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-07-11 06:02 PM |
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"Press 'em..."? Hell you can't keep 'em out with an electric fence and a flamethrower... n/t |
PavePusher |
Oct-08-11 10:06 AM |
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what I've yet to see |
iverglas |
Oct-08-11 12:32 PM |
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Hahahahahaha!!! Whew....... |
PavePusher |
Oct-08-11 02:34 PM |
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Thankfully, we have your voice of authority to sort these things for us. |
PavePusher |
Oct-08-11 10:05 AM |
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"authority"? |
iverglas |
Oct-08-11 12:32 PM |
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No need to yell |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-06-11 12:41 PM |
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"Father, forgive them, for they apparently are not well educated enough... |
Callisto32 |
Oct-07-11 04:59 AM |
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And despite all the obfuscation ,stonewalling ,and attempted manipulation |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-07-11 10:49 AM |
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... to think they can pass of shit as sugar |
iverglas |
Oct-07-11 02:25 PM |
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And how would we ever recognise "a pile of steaming stinking right-wing shit"... |
PavePusher |
Oct-08-11 10:10 AM |
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Oct-08-11 10:58 AM |
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just for the record |
iverglas |
Oct-08-11 01:45 PM |
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Do you own a smelter? |
PavePusher |
Oct-08-11 02:31 PM |
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It wasn't for a lack of trying...we're just lucky the 2A wasn't hit....yet. |
ileus |
Oct-06-11 08:22 PM |
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I believe it was going to be a desired side effect to gather support for the AWB. |
ileus |
Oct-05-11 08:35 PM |
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I go by what the pols and pundits are saying |
DissedByBush |
Oct-05-11 10:32 PM |
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Well put. |
ileus |
Oct-06-11 07:54 AM |
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Yes, even the windage from WaPo has become a mere zephyr. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-07-11 02:48 PM |
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I wonder if they are still "working on something (for gun control) under the radar"? |
DonP |
Oct-06-11 08:28 AM |
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Personally I don't think so... However, when it first started to unravel |
Glassunion |
Oct-06-11 11:45 AM |
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F&F conspiracy theories |
DanTex |
Oct-06-11 11:55 AM |
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You need to come by more often |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 12:30 PM |
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Mentioning non-Fox sources of F&F info wrecks the genetic fallacy |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 03:04 PM |
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Are there any non-Fox sources peddling the conspiracy theory? |
DanTex |
Oct-06-11 03:17 PM |
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See post #27 for a few. Then again, you may be correct about its importance. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 03:21 PM |
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Link please. |
DanTex |
Oct-06-11 03:24 PM |
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It is a what if session |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 04:20 PM |
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Umm... yes, it's a conspiracy theory. |
DanTex |
Oct-06-11 04:42 PM |
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Yes I know |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 04:52 PM |
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where do you base the |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 04:47 PM |
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do you work hard not to grasp points? |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 06:41 PM |
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Oh I was thinking of the time |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 08:06 PM |
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I note also the L.A. Times has for some odd reason persisted with coverage. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-07-11 02:50 PM |
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No conspiracy is complete |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-06-11 12:39 PM |
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"Without some mention of the Jews" |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 02:19 PM |
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I knew there were good reasons |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 02:08 PM |
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the cartoon in post 6 |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 02:13 PM |
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Media Matters |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 03:22 PM |
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Media Matters is biased... |
DanTex |
Oct-06-11 03:26 PM |
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want to see the list again? |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 04:17 PM |
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Just one link will do. |
DanTex |
Oct-06-11 04:51 PM |
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I was never aware that |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 05:03 PM |
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Don't you know the fact that Fox is pushing it invalidates it? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 05:44 PM |
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A $25 dollar donation to DU will allow you to search, you know.. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 05:40 PM |
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And then there's "Obama Looking For Ways Around Congress On Gun Policy" |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 05:57 PM |
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Lordy! Are you even paying attention? |
DanTex |
Oct-06-11 06:25 PM |
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"Was 'Fast and Furious' a ploy to discredit the firearm industry/enthusiast community?" |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 07:03 PM |
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There is no evidence. Simply well-founded speculation. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-07-11 08:04 AM |
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Nicely done exposition. If anyone is serious about determining... |
SteveM |
Oct-07-11 03:09 PM |
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Oh I get it! This is another one of those "#IDontHaveFactsToBackThisUp" twitter jokes... |
DanTex |
Oct-07-11 05:39 PM |
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A stunning intellectual rebuttal, Dan. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-07-11 07:43 PM |
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Arming an insurgency to prevent further unrest ? |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-07-11 08:42 PM |
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Can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing. |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-08-11 12:07 PM |
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A history of saying A , while doing B ....yes |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-08-11 02:19 PM |
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Not sure what "it" is... |
Atypical Liberal |
Oct-08-11 04:20 PM |
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The old game was arm whomever was killing Commies |
Katya Mullethov |
Oct-09-11 08:54 PM |
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this really is quite astounding |
iverglas |
Oct-08-11 01:31 PM |
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So, if a "lefty"-type speculates there is a plot, you'll buy it? |
SteveM |
Oct-07-11 02:59 PM |
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Since there are no sane people who believe in this F&F conspiracy... |
DanTex |
Oct-07-11 03:16 PM |
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Oh! Thank god! I'm merely speculating. Thought I was insane for a moment. nt |
SteveM |
Oct-07-11 03:42 PM |
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and your point is what |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 08:30 PM |
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joking right? |
gejohnston |
Oct-08-11 01:14 PM |
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um |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 06:39 PM |
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to answer your question |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 08:12 PM |
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what are you yammering about???? |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 08:23 PM |
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Either made it up or |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 08:36 PM |
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omg you are unbelievable |
iverglas |
Oct-06-11 09:08 PM |
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No what I said was |
gejohnston |
Oct-06-11 10:01 PM |
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"You picked the source that had nothing to back it up" |
iverglas |
Oct-07-11 02:41 PM |
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I did not see |
gejohnston |
Oct-07-11 04:39 PM |
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Now you stop that yammering. |
ileus |
Oct-06-11 09:31 PM |
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But yammering is what I do best |
gejohnston |
Oct-08-11 04:53 PM |
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And admittedly you are very good at it. n/t |
oneshooter |
Oct-08-11 05:07 PM |
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gee thanks, I guess? nt |
gejohnston |
Oct-08-11 06:01 PM |
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Oh, I'm sure your explanations of F&F are *entirely* disinterested. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Oct-06-11 03:18 PM |
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Oct-06-11 08:26 PM |
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Alice, cupidity, alice, cupidity, loves me, loves me not |
iverglas |
Oct-07-11 02:34 PM |
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Can you come up with a more biased source to link to? |
rl6214 |
Oct-07-11 04:16 AM |
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So that video of the appalling person ranting in front of an adoring crowd ... |
iverglas |
Oct-07-11 02:36 PM |
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F & F was... |
discntnt_irny_srcsm |
Oct-07-11 05:45 PM |
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now that we have the far right's theory |
gejohnston |
Oct-07-11 06:06 PM |
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