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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:54 PM
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39. Pools are not "rights" protected by the Constitution...
Restrictions on pools, operation of autos on the public thoroughfares, transportation of hazardous materials, etc., can be restricted because these are not protected by the Constitution. The courts would rightly view any "requirements" for fences, metaphorically or otherwise, as potential means to restrict the Second Amendment; states can, however, restrict the use of firearms as long as they don't violate or infringe the Second and the Fourteenth Amendments.
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  -Girl, 3, flown to Anchorage after suffering gunshot wound in chest. Arctic Dave  Sep-03-11 09:03 AM   #0 
  - And your point is? NT  RSillsbee   Sep-03-11 09:06 AM   #1 
  - This is a gun forum right? nt  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 09:06 AM   #2 
     - Why, yes, yes it is  RSillsbee   Sep-03-11 09:19 AM   #4 
        - OK. Policy: All guns should unloaded and locked in a safe  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 09:22 AM   #7 
        - Poor people can't afford safes.  GreenStormCloud   Sep-03-11 09:32 AM   #10 
        - Good idea, gun manufacturers must provide a safe with purchase.  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 09:33 AM   #11 
        - Nice to know you're willing to pay for it. nt  rrneck   Sep-03-11 10:13 AM   #19 
        - I have paid for it. Allmy firearms are kept in lock boxes.  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 02:11 PM   #47 
           - A facile dodge.  rrneck   Sep-03-11 03:03 PM   #53 
           - "lock box" =/= "safe"  PavePusher   Sep-04-11 06:27 PM   #55 
        - Another poor idea. This would be a substantial cost leveed onto...  SteveM   Sep-03-11 12:47 PM   #36 
        - A lock box cost about 40-50 bucks.  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 02:10 PM   #46 
           - I have one. You want a requirement for safes. That's different.  SteveM   Sep-03-11 02:35 PM   #50 
        - Most, if not all, already do.  Atypical Liberal   Sep-03-11 02:42 PM   #52 
        - poor people can afford to unload  DrDan   Sep-03-11 09:36 AM   #13 
        - You can buy an adequate gun box for less than $40 ...  spin   Sep-03-11 10:57 AM   #23 
        - Thanks. I was thinking of the larger, more expensive safes. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Sep-03-11 11:59 AM   #26 
        - I have a much larger safe and a medium sized safe ...  spin   Sep-03-11 12:09 PM   #31 
        - This is a good idea. nt  SteveM   Sep-03-11 12:48 PM   #37 
        - Gun locks are fucking cheap - but according to the NRA, life is cheaper  jpak   Sep-03-11 10:58 AM   #24 
           - Please wait, Mr. Home Invader, while I find the key and unlock my gun. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Sep-03-11 12:00 PM   #27 
           - And they are easily defeated and can cause an unintended discharge.  PavePusher   Sep-04-11 06:29 PM   #56 
           - Show us where you are getting this info from  rl6214   Sep-05-11 04:05 AM   #64 
        - I agree with you  RSillsbee   Sep-03-11 12:35 PM   #33 
        - Poor idea you've got...  SteveM   Sep-03-11 12:45 PM   #35 
           - If a child is shot by your firearm, you go to jail.  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 02:07 PM   #44 
              - No, I won't. What encourages me to safely store firearms is accounting for such dangers.  SteveM   Sep-03-11 02:38 PM   #51 
              - Just what we need, *more* people incarcerated  Euromutt   Sep-05-11 08:53 PM   #68 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-11 09:49 AM   #16 
        - Shooting 3 year olds doesn't have anything to do with your bolded sentence?  RC   Sep-03-11 10:23 AM   #21 
  - Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools  slackmaster   Sep-03-11 09:18 AM   #3 
  - Sometimes you just can't teach stupid.  RSillsbee   Sep-03-11 09:20 AM   #5 
  - Any gun purchase should have a gun safety training class prior to it.  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 09:23 AM   #8 
  - Actually not a bad idea ...  spin   Sep-03-11 10:15 AM   #20 
  - I'm a bit torn on the idea of a mandatory class  petronius   Sep-03-11 12:01 PM   #28 
     - Since there are at least 300 million firearms in our nation ...  spin   Sep-03-11 12:28 PM   #32 
        - I'm for it, as long as "training" doesn't glorify guns and carrying in public. Keep it out of hands  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 06:49 PM   #58 
  - I always recommend that to people, and I have personally trained more than 100 in the basics  slackmaster   Sep-03-11 11:05 AM   #25 
  - And who will pay for this class?  RSillsbee   Sep-03-11 12:38 PM   #34 
  - 1) you 2) Yes  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 02:08 PM   #45 
     - Well, that makes no sense at all.  cleanhippie   Sep-04-11 07:17 PM   #62 
  - And every car purchase should require a driving safety class.  Common Sense Party   Sep-03-11 03:04 PM   #54 
  - Not a bad idea. What about those that have already had a class?  cleanhippie   Sep-04-11 07:16 PM   #61 
     - then gosh, that would be what a licence is for  iverglas   Sep-07-11 09:37 PM   #69 
  - An even better idea. nt  SteveM   Sep-03-11 12:51 PM   #38 
  - But, but, but...  PavePusher   Sep-04-11 06:46 PM   #57 
  - A friend of mine shot his wife in the chest with a 357...but she died.  ileus   Sep-03-11 09:22 AM   #6 
  - !  Tuesday Afternoon   Sep-03-11 10:07 AM   #18 
     - naw....he was shot dead 10 months later.  ileus   Sep-03-11 01:17 PM   #41 
  - For children 6 or below there are about 120 firearms injuries per year.  GreenStormCloud   Sep-03-11 09:25 AM   #9 
     - So if pools are required to be fenced should we do the same with guns?  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 09:35 AM   #12 
     - Some states have safe-storage laws for gun owners  slackmaster   Sep-03-11 09:58 AM   #17 
     - Pools are not "rights" protected by the Constitution...  SteveM   Sep-03-11 12:54 PM   #39 
        - Second amndments OKs the shooting of children?  Arctic Dave   Sep-03-11 02:13 PM   #48 
           - No. You seem to have nothing but hyperbole.  SteveM   Sep-03-11 02:33 PM   #49 
     - so 120 is an acceptable number . . . .  DrDan   Sep-03-11 09:39 AM   #14 
     - Obviously we should work to reduce that number even further ...  spin   Sep-03-11 10:53 AM   #22 
     - If you were truly concerned about child safety you would direct your...  GreenStormCloud   Sep-03-11 12:05 PM   #30 
     - No, but you seem to miss that childhood deaths are lessening over time.  SteveM   Sep-03-11 12:58 PM   #40 
     - Who here said that? I await your quote...  PavePusher   Sep-04-11 07:04 PM   #59 
     - That is a hypocritical implication, dave.  cleanhippie   Sep-04-11 07:20 PM   #63 
     - Pssst.... wrong name.... n/t  PavePusher   Sep-05-11 01:33 PM   #65 
        - Ooops...  cleanhippie   Sep-05-11 02:28 PM   #66 
     - Several days without backing up your bullshit.  PavePusher   Sep-05-11 05:40 PM   #67 
     - how many hours/day  safeinOhio   Sep-03-11 09:47 AM   #15 
        - When I was growing up Dad's rifle was always hanging on the wall.  GreenStormCloud   Sep-03-11 12:02 PM   #29 
           - How much time were you left unsupervised with a loaded  safeinOhio   Sep-03-11 01:17 PM   #42 
              - The numbers that I looked up were for INJURIES, not death.  GreenStormCloud   Sep-03-11 01:34 PM   #43 
              - So, kids can be taught to avoid/be careful with objects that entail risk?  PavePusher   Sep-04-11 07:06 PM   #60 

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