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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-11 08:05 AM
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111. Buy the firearms you want now before big brother gets microstamping done.
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  -Boston Globe Editorial - A False Choice: Gun making vs. gun control ProgressiveProfessor  Aug-28-11 12:32 PM   #0 
  - Dearest Colt, we'd welcome you here in Virginia.  ileus   Aug-28-11 12:37 PM   #1 
  - I think Colt would be much happier here in Florida  PuffedMica   Aug-28-11 05:40 PM   #50 
  - You are both wrong. Please come to Texas.  Hoopla Phil   Aug-28-11 06:34 PM   #54 
     - Colorado Rocky Mountain High  RSillsbee   Aug-28-11 06:41 PM   #56 
        - O bull... The Commonwealth of PA would be a perfect location.  Glassunion   Sep-04-11 06:12 PM   #72 
           - Cleveland, Pittsburgh or Detroit would make ALOT of sense...  OneTenthofOnePercent   Sep-05-11 09:19 AM   #114 
              - Pittsburg it is!  Glassunion   Sep-05-11 09:20 AM   #115 
                 - Cleveland. (Go Browns)  OneTenthofOnePercent   Sep-05-11 09:52 AM   #122 
  - I have a lovely valley here in Utah where you would feel very much at home.  Common Sense Party   Sep-06-11 11:39 PM   #127 
  - Prime example of Shooting ones self in the foot or do whats right.  orpupilofnature57   Aug-28-11 12:40 PM   #2 
  - What would you consider "doing whats right"?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 12:51 PM   #3 
  - Thats why they want to do it?or "GUN CONTROL JUST DOESN'T WORK" PERIOD!  orpupilofnature57   Aug-28-11 01:43 PM   #11 
  - OMG I thought I just saw a ghost NT  RSillsbee   Aug-28-11 02:00 PM   #22 
     - LOL! Me too.  Hoopla Phil   Aug-28-11 06:35 PM   #55 
  - If S&W, Springfield, and Colt left NE, that would be something.  aikoaiko   Aug-28-11 01:02 PM   #4 
  - SA did not leave Illinois, but IIRC established a second facility elsewhere  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 01:37 PM   #9 
     - True enough.  aikoaiko   Aug-28-11 06:07 PM   #53 
     - Maybe, but compare what Ruger's been doing...  Euromutt   Sep-03-11 07:58 AM   #60 
  - Typical corporation -- bend over to our demands or we're shipping jobs elsewhere. Screw em.  Hoyt   Aug-28-11 01:19 PM   #5 
  - Pretty bold considering what has happened in California  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 01:42 PM   #10 
  - Maybe it's time corporations stop their threats. Micro-stamping is not a big deal for them.  Hoyt   Aug-28-11 04:01 PM   #35 
     - There is a history of boycotts against manufacturers, see Post#33.  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 04:13 PM   #37 
     - How about the gunners who whine about innocuous micro-stamping? They are our problem.  Hoyt   Aug-28-11 04:54 PM   #42 
        - Concealed carry does not figure into this at all  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 05:28 PM   #47 
        - You cant bargain or try to "work with" those who wish to destroy you  Katya Mullethov   Sep-03-11 08:03 AM   #61 
        - You don't own any weapons, so make the call and tell us what happens. n/t  oneshooter   Sep-03-11 09:02 AM   #65 
     - It is a big cost to them, gets passed to us, means lower sales  DissedByBush   Sep-06-11 10:13 PM   #126 
  - Actually, the states want these corps. to bend over to THEIR demands. nt  SteveM   Aug-28-11 01:50 PM   #14 
  - "Screw 'em" in what sense?  Euromutt   Sep-03-11 08:18 AM   #62 
  - Why would you want to have your business someplace hostile to your trade?  DissedByBush   Sep-05-11 02:09 PM   #124 
  - and they say the gun manufacturers aren't ...  iverglas   Aug-28-11 01:24 PM   #6 
  - How does microstamping "reduce the harms associated with firearms"  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 01:33 PM   #7 
  - It shows respect to a sports item that can kill ,just like a Boat ,Suv, or motorcycle..  orpupilofnature57   Aug-28-11 01:48 PM   #13 
  - Guns already have serial numbers  DissedByBush   Sep-04-11 07:03 PM   #77 
  - The Globe assumes, without evidence, micro-stamping will work. nt  SteveM   Aug-28-11 01:51 PM   #15 
  - there were a couple of questions in my post  iverglas   Aug-28-11 01:54 PM   #16 
     - They were answered as best they could be  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 02:23 PM   #28 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-28-11 01:34 PM   #8 
  - It's religious with some people ,and they wonder why they worry people.  orpupilofnature57   Aug-28-11 01:45 PM   #12 
  - well you're a cute one, aren't you?  iverglas   Aug-28-11 01:59 PM   #19 
     - Good Questions ,Corporations use Guns ,Sex,and Religion to keep us  orpupilofnature57   Aug-28-11 02:06 PM   #23 
  - LOL. For some, "truth and beauty" have little to do with I-Net vision. n  SteveM   Aug-28-11 01:55 PM   #17 
  - Fireworks are fun and firearms are necessary??  orpupilofnature57   Aug-28-11 01:59 PM   #20 
     - To me, "yes," and "yes."  SteveM   Aug-28-11 02:24 PM   #29 
     - Yes and Yes  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 02:25 PM   #30 
  - from the master of bald assertions  iverglas   Aug-28-11 01:58 PM   #18 
  - What actually did happen to that 'water' subthread? It seemed quite civil  petronius   Aug-28-11 02:14 PM   #26 
  - it had my name in it  iverglas   Aug-28-11 02:19 PM   #27 
  - tut, tut, iverglas  TPaine7   Aug-28-11 02:46 PM   #34 
     - I "actually think the 'water is wet' comment"  iverglas   Aug-28-11 04:20 PM   #40 
  - it was a very simple question  iverglas   Aug-28-11 02:00 PM   #21 
     - Money. It's good PR. nt  rrneck   Aug-28-11 02:07 PM   #24 
     - I tried.  orpupilofnature57   Aug-28-11 02:08 PM   #25 
  - If I manufactured an item ...  spin   Aug-28-11 02:37 PM   #32 
  - Several other companies now have that same lock.  GreenStormCloud   Sep-04-11 11:15 PM   #85 
  - Can we have the manufacturer's reasons for making this threat, please?  RSillsbee   Aug-28-11 06:44 PM   #57 
  - Good. One of the members at my club keeps shooting my targets and messing up my scores.  bluerum   Aug-28-11 02:32 PM   #31 
  - I shot at your target, it looked pathetic with no 10s or Xs  JustABozoOnThisBus   Sep-05-11 09:51 AM   #121 
  - It comes down to one word - "Boycott"  -..__...   Aug-28-11 02:42 PM   #33 
  - Good point. It's gunners opposed to micro-stamping -- fearing they might shoot someone and not  Hoyt   Aug-28-11 04:04 PM   #36 
     - Ok... who talked/leaked the memo?  -..__...   Aug-28-11 04:14 PM   #38 
     - You forget the bullet. Which is definitive and hard to change  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 04:16 PM   #39 
        - You guys use those dumbed out bullets that break up so you get more organs when you shoot someone.  Hoyt   Aug-28-11 04:50 PM   #41 
           - I rarely laugh out loud at a post, although I frequently use the smiley  petronius   Aug-28-11 05:07 PM   #43 
           - I won't jump you for the bad terminology...I think you mean hollow points  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 05:21 PM   #45 
           - Look up "dum dum" bullets boys. You apparently don't know as much as you thought.  Hoyt   Aug-28-11 07:24 PM   #58 
              - Well aware of the term Dum-Dum and its roots. I assumed that is what you meant by  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 08:33 PM   #59 
              - Strictly speaking, "dum dum" bullets are soft point .303 British  Euromutt   Sep-03-11 08:42 AM   #64 
              - LOL! "Dumbed" from Dum Dum?  Marengo   Sep-05-11 09:18 AM   #113 
           - Yes, I got a Wurlitzer the other day. nt  SteveM   Sep-03-11 02:00 PM   #66 
           - Was it a waltz model, or full rock and roll. n/t  oneshooter   Sep-05-11 09:39 AM   #118 
           - Are you really as ignorant about firearms and ammunition as you sound?  oneshooter   Sep-03-11 03:21 PM   #67 
           - Yes, he is. 'Tis a puzzlement.... n/t  PavePusher   Sep-04-11 06:22 PM   #73 
           - Dumbed out? Do you mean pre-fragmented?  GreenStormCloud   Sep-04-11 11:27 PM   #86 
  - Another reason reloading is a great thing.  ileus   Aug-28-11 05:10 PM   #44 
  - How does that play into microstamping which includes the firing pin/primer?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 05:22 PM   #46 
     - Probaly thinking of "laser etching"...  -..__...   Aug-28-11 05:30 PM   #48 
        - The IT problem alone would be overwhelming for that approach though at least it is more viable  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-28-11 05:37 PM   #49 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-28-11 05:41 PM   #51 
  - it ain't the guns that kill ya'  azureblue   Aug-28-11 06:06 PM   #52 
  - California's micro-stamping law has been a complete failure. It is not in efffect after four years.  slackmaster   Sep-03-11 08:36 AM   #63 
  - How can it be a "failure" if it is not in effect?  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 01:35 PM   #69 
     - Which brings up an obvious question: Where HAS it worked?  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-04-11 03:36 PM   #70 
     - Penicillin was considered ineffective before it was tried. Besides . . . . . .  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 04:20 PM   #71 
        - It is already documented as ineffective  ProgressiveProfessor   Sep-04-11 07:59 PM   #78 
           - Where has it been proven "ineffective?"  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 08:04 PM   #79 
              - If it can be defeated by a diamond nail file or simple wear and tear, it's ineffective  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-04-11 08:30 PM   #81 
              - Why would you and other supposedly law-abiding toters feel the need to do that?  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 11:31 PM   #87 
              - This is meant to stop criminals, right?  DissedByBush   Sep-05-11 12:34 AM   #106 
              - Buy the firearms you want now before big brother gets microstamping done.  ileus   Sep-05-11 08:05 AM   #111 
              - Here, by an actual forensic firearms examiner:  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-04-11 10:58 PM   #83 
              - Why would any law-abiding toter need to take countermeasures?  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 11:32 PM   #88 
              - Dislike of big brother?  DissedByBush   Sep-05-11 12:32 AM   #105 
              - In general, I do not support any meaningless legislation - not just for 2A/gun issues.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Sep-05-11 09:46 AM   #120 
              - It's worse than I thought  DissedByBush   Sep-05-11 12:30 AM   #103 
              - UC Davis report..  X_Digger   Sep-04-11 11:03 PM   #84 
                 - Why would a law-abiding toter take a file to the microstamping technology?  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 11:34 PM   #89 
                    - Who said they would, Hoyt?  X_Digger   Sep-04-11 11:43 PM   #92 
                       - No answer to your questions, I see....  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-05-11 12:13 AM   #97 
                       - Criminals don't usually buy guns -- unless they buy it before losing their "law abiding" ranking.  Hoyt   Sep-05-11 12:15 AM   #98 
                          - "legible enough"?!?  X_Digger   Sep-05-11 12:21 AM   #101 
                          - Goldilocks Gun Control, redux:  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-05-11 12:55 AM   #109 
     - How can you call it a winning program, if it has never been tried? n/t  oneshooter   Sep-04-11 06:40 PM   #74 
        - If everything had to pan out before trying it, we'd still be using logs for wheels. Be honest.  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 07:01 PM   #76 
           - You want to make it mandatory *before* it's been tested.  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-04-11 08:28 PM   #80 
              - No, you're advocating protecting manufacturers/purchasers of killing apparatus by blowing smoke.  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 11:36 PM   #90 
                 - This same technology should easily cross over  Katya Mullethov   Sep-05-11 09:25 AM   #116 
  - I disagree with the author's contention that  S_B_Jackson   Sep-03-11 08:04 PM   #68 
  - What they're not telling you  DissedByBush   Sep-04-11 07:00 PM   #75 
     - IOW, it's a technological version of supply-side economics  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-04-11 08:33 PM   #82 
     - OK, let's just keep records of who purchases bullets and put identifiers on bullet and casing.  Hoyt   Sep-04-11 11:37 PM   #91 
        - One word- reloading.  X_Digger   Sep-04-11 11:51 PM   #93 
        - Ah, you are already thinking of a way around being tied to a shooting.  Hoyt   Sep-05-11 12:05 AM   #95 
           - I'm thinking of the logistics. If I can think of a $30 solution to your "fix" then so can criminals.  X_Digger   Sep-05-11 12:17 AM   #100 
              - You just don't want to have your guns "microstampled"!  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-05-11 12:49 AM   #108 
                 - Again, why do you want to obliterate it? Criminals won't waste their time.  Hoyt   Sep-05-11 08:34 AM   #112 
                    - Criminals never "waste their time" taking precautionary...  Marengo   Sep-05-11 09:27 AM   #117 
                       - Reasonable, common-sense abrasive control will put a stop to such diabolical actions! n/t  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-05-11 12:03 PM   #123 
                          - When nail files are illegal, only criminals will have nail files n/t  DissedByBush   Sep-05-11 11:27 PM   #125 
        - Nah, we're not trying to artificially drive up costs  DissedByBush   Sep-04-11 11:55 PM   #94 
        - Yep, that mugger that is behind every tree in public toters' paranoia are going to reload, cast  Hoyt   Sep-05-11 12:08 AM   #96 
        - They won't do it themselves; they'll just buy them off some unscrupulous individual...  Euromutt   Sep-07-11 02:43 AM   #128 
        - Don't bother- Our keyboard commando "knows" more about guns than published forensic examiners  friendly_iconoclast   Sep-05-11 12:16 AM   #99 
           - Quite possibly, or at least I don't have my head in the clouds  DissedByBush   Sep-05-11 12:28 AM   #102 
              - A prosecuting attorney I know hates, hates, HATES CSI and their ilk*..  X_Digger   Sep-05-11 12:31 AM   #104 
                 - Dude, I've seen it done...  rrneck   Sep-05-11 12:44 AM   #107 
        - Sure, just as soon as we keep records of who withdraws what bills from ATMs...  krispos42   Sep-05-11 07:31 AM   #110 
        - The keeping of records of ammunition was tried once.  oneshooter   Sep-05-11 09:45 AM   #119 
 

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