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Mon Sep-05-11 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #92 |
| 97. No answer to your questions, I see.... |
| -Boston Globe Editorial - A False Choice: Gun making vs. gun control |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 12:32 PM |
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Dearest Colt, we'd welcome you here in Virginia. |
ileus |
Aug-28-11 12:37 PM |
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I think Colt would be much happier here in Florida |
PuffedMica |
Aug-28-11 05:40 PM |
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You are both wrong. Please come to Texas. |
Hoopla Phil |
Aug-28-11 06:34 PM |
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Colorado Rocky Mountain High |
RSillsbee |
Aug-28-11 06:41 PM |
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O bull... The Commonwealth of PA would be a perfect location. |
Glassunion |
Sep-04-11 06:12 PM |
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Cleveland, Pittsburgh or Detroit would make ALOT of sense... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Sep-05-11 09:19 AM |
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Pittsburg it is! |
Glassunion |
Sep-05-11 09:20 AM |
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Cleveland. (Go Browns) |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Sep-05-11 09:52 AM |
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I have a lovely valley here in Utah where you would feel very much at home. |
Common Sense Party |
Sep-06-11 11:39 PM |
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Prime example of Shooting ones self in the foot or do whats right. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Aug-28-11 12:40 PM |
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What would you consider "doing whats right"? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 12:51 PM |
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Thats why they want to do it?or "GUN CONTROL JUST DOESN'T WORK" PERIOD! |
orpupilofnature57 |
Aug-28-11 01:43 PM |
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OMG I thought I just saw a ghost NT |
RSillsbee |
Aug-28-11 02:00 PM |
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LOL! Me too. |
Hoopla Phil |
Aug-28-11 06:35 PM |
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If S&W, Springfield, and Colt left NE, that would be something. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-28-11 01:02 PM |
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SA did not leave Illinois, but IIRC established a second facility elsewhere |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 01:37 PM |
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True enough. |
aikoaiko |
Aug-28-11 06:07 PM |
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Maybe, but compare what Ruger's been doing... |
Euromutt |
Sep-03-11 07:58 AM |
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Typical corporation -- bend over to our demands or we're shipping jobs elsewhere. Screw em. |
Hoyt |
Aug-28-11 01:19 PM |
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Pretty bold considering what has happened in California |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 01:42 PM |
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Maybe it's time corporations stop their threats. Micro-stamping is not a big deal for them. |
Hoyt |
Aug-28-11 04:01 PM |
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There is a history of boycotts against manufacturers, see Post#33. |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 04:13 PM |
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How about the gunners who whine about innocuous micro-stamping? They are our problem. |
Hoyt |
Aug-28-11 04:54 PM |
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Concealed carry does not figure into this at all |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 05:28 PM |
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You cant bargain or try to "work with" those who wish to destroy you |
Katya Mullethov |
Sep-03-11 08:03 AM |
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You don't own any weapons, so make the call and tell us what happens. n/t |
oneshooter |
Sep-03-11 09:02 AM |
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It is a big cost to them, gets passed to us, means lower sales |
DissedByBush |
Sep-06-11 10:13 PM |
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Actually, the states want these corps. to bend over to THEIR demands. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-28-11 01:50 PM |
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"Screw 'em" in what sense? |
Euromutt |
Sep-03-11 08:18 AM |
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Why would you want to have your business someplace hostile to your trade? |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 02:09 PM |
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and they say the gun manufacturers aren't ... |
iverglas |
Aug-28-11 01:24 PM |
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How does microstamping "reduce the harms associated with firearms" |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 01:33 PM |
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It shows respect to a sports item that can kill ,just like a Boat ,Suv, or motorcycle.. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Aug-28-11 01:48 PM |
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Guns already have serial numbers |
DissedByBush |
Sep-04-11 07:03 PM |
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The Globe assumes, without evidence, micro-stamping will work. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-28-11 01:51 PM |
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there were a couple of questions in my post |
iverglas |
Aug-28-11 01:54 PM |
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They were answered as best they could be |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 02:23 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-28-11 01:34 PM |
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It's religious with some people ,and they wonder why they worry people. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Aug-28-11 01:45 PM |
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well you're a cute one, aren't you? |
iverglas |
Aug-28-11 01:59 PM |
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Good Questions ,Corporations use Guns ,Sex,and Religion to keep us |
orpupilofnature57 |
Aug-28-11 02:06 PM |
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LOL. For some, "truth and beauty" have little to do with I-Net vision. n |
SteveM |
Aug-28-11 01:55 PM |
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Fireworks are fun and firearms are necessary?? |
orpupilofnature57 |
Aug-28-11 01:59 PM |
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To me, "yes," and "yes." |
SteveM |
Aug-28-11 02:24 PM |
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Yes and Yes |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 02:25 PM |
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from the master of bald assertions |
iverglas |
Aug-28-11 01:58 PM |
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What actually did happen to that 'water' subthread? It seemed quite civil |
petronius |
Aug-28-11 02:14 PM |
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it had my name in it |
iverglas |
Aug-28-11 02:19 PM |
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tut, tut, iverglas |
TPaine7 |
Aug-28-11 02:46 PM |
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I "actually think the 'water is wet' comment" |
iverglas |
Aug-28-11 04:20 PM |
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it was a very simple question |
iverglas |
Aug-28-11 02:00 PM |
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Money. It's good PR. nt |
rrneck |
Aug-28-11 02:07 PM |
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I tried. |
orpupilofnature57 |
Aug-28-11 02:08 PM |
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If I manufactured an item ... |
spin |
Aug-28-11 02:37 PM |
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Several other companies now have that same lock. |
GreenStormCloud |
Sep-04-11 11:15 PM |
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Can we have the manufacturer's reasons for making this threat, please? |
RSillsbee |
Aug-28-11 06:44 PM |
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Good. One of the members at my club keeps shooting my targets and messing up my scores. |
bluerum |
Aug-28-11 02:32 PM |
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I shot at your target, it looked pathetic with no 10s or Xs |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Sep-05-11 09:51 AM |
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It comes down to one word - "Boycott" |
-..__... |
Aug-28-11 02:42 PM |
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Good point. It's gunners opposed to micro-stamping -- fearing they might shoot someone and not |
Hoyt |
Aug-28-11 04:04 PM |
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Ok... who talked/leaked the memo? |
-..__... |
Aug-28-11 04:14 PM |
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You forget the bullet. Which is definitive and hard to change |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 04:16 PM |
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You guys use those dumbed out bullets that break up so you get more organs when you shoot someone. |
Hoyt |
Aug-28-11 04:50 PM |
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I rarely laugh out loud at a post, although I frequently use the smiley |
petronius |
Aug-28-11 05:07 PM |
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I won't jump you for the bad terminology...I think you mean hollow points |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 05:21 PM |
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Look up "dum dum" bullets boys. You apparently don't know as much as you thought. |
Hoyt |
Aug-28-11 07:24 PM |
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Well aware of the term Dum-Dum and its roots. I assumed that is what you meant by |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 08:33 PM |
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Strictly speaking, "dum dum" bullets are soft point .303 British |
Euromutt |
Sep-03-11 08:42 AM |
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LOL! "Dumbed" from Dum Dum? |
Marengo |
Sep-05-11 09:18 AM |
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Yes, I got a Wurlitzer the other day. nt |
SteveM |
Sep-03-11 02:00 PM |
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Was it a waltz model, or full rock and roll. n/t |
oneshooter |
Sep-05-11 09:39 AM |
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Are you really as ignorant about firearms and ammunition as you sound? |
oneshooter |
Sep-03-11 03:21 PM |
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Yes, he is. 'Tis a puzzlement.... n/t |
PavePusher |
Sep-04-11 06:22 PM |
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Dumbed out? Do you mean pre-fragmented? |
GreenStormCloud |
Sep-04-11 11:27 PM |
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Another reason reloading is a great thing. |
ileus |
Aug-28-11 05:10 PM |
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How does that play into microstamping which includes the firing pin/primer? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 05:22 PM |
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Probaly thinking of "laser etching"... |
-..__... |
Aug-28-11 05:30 PM |
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The IT problem alone would be overwhelming for that approach though at least it is more viable |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-28-11 05:37 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-28-11 05:41 PM |
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it ain't the guns that kill ya' |
azureblue |
Aug-28-11 06:06 PM |
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California's micro-stamping law has been a complete failure. It is not in efffect after four years. |
slackmaster |
Sep-03-11 08:36 AM |
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How can it be a "failure" if it is not in effect? |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 01:35 PM |
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Which brings up an obvious question: Where HAS it worked? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-04-11 03:36 PM |
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Penicillin was considered ineffective before it was tried. Besides . . . . . . |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 04:20 PM |
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It is already documented as ineffective |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Sep-04-11 07:59 PM |
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Where has it been proven "ineffective?" |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 08:04 PM |
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If it can be defeated by a diamond nail file or simple wear and tear, it's ineffective |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-04-11 08:30 PM |
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Why would you and other supposedly law-abiding toters feel the need to do that? |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 11:31 PM |
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This is meant to stop criminals, right? |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 12:34 AM |
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Buy the firearms you want now before big brother gets microstamping done. |
ileus |
Sep-05-11 08:05 AM |
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Here, by an actual forensic firearms examiner: |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-04-11 10:58 PM |
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Why would any law-abiding toter need to take countermeasures? |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 11:32 PM |
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Dislike of big brother? |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 12:32 AM |
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In general, I do not support any meaningless legislation - not just for 2A/gun issues. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Sep-05-11 09:46 AM |
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It's worse than I thought |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 12:30 AM |
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UC Davis report.. |
X_Digger |
Sep-04-11 11:03 PM |
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Why would a law-abiding toter take a file to the microstamping technology? |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 11:34 PM |
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Who said they would, Hoyt? |
X_Digger |
Sep-04-11 11:43 PM |
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No answer to your questions, I see.... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-05-11 12:13 AM |
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Criminals don't usually buy guns -- unless they buy it before losing their "law abiding" ranking. |
Hoyt |
Sep-05-11 12:15 AM |
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"legible enough"?!? |
X_Digger |
Sep-05-11 12:21 AM |
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Goldilocks Gun Control, redux: |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-05-11 12:55 AM |
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How can you call it a winning program, if it has never been tried? n/t |
oneshooter |
Sep-04-11 06:40 PM |
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If everything had to pan out before trying it, we'd still be using logs for wheels. Be honest. |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 07:01 PM |
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You want to make it mandatory *before* it's been tested. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-04-11 08:28 PM |
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No, you're advocating protecting manufacturers/purchasers of killing apparatus by blowing smoke. |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 11:36 PM |
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This same technology should easily cross over |
Katya Mullethov |
Sep-05-11 09:25 AM |
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I disagree with the author's contention that |
S_B_Jackson |
Sep-03-11 08:04 PM |
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What they're not telling you |
DissedByBush |
Sep-04-11 07:00 PM |
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IOW, it's a technological version of supply-side economics |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-04-11 08:33 PM |
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OK, let's just keep records of who purchases bullets and put identifiers on bullet and casing. |
Hoyt |
Sep-04-11 11:37 PM |
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One word- reloading. |
X_Digger |
Sep-04-11 11:51 PM |
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Ah, you are already thinking of a way around being tied to a shooting. |
Hoyt |
Sep-05-11 12:05 AM |
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I'm thinking of the logistics. If I can think of a $30 solution to your "fix" then so can criminals. |
X_Digger |
Sep-05-11 12:17 AM |
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You just don't want to have your guns "microstampled"! |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-05-11 12:49 AM |
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Again, why do you want to obliterate it? Criminals won't waste their time. |
Hoyt |
Sep-05-11 08:34 AM |
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Criminals never "waste their time" taking precautionary... |
Marengo |
Sep-05-11 09:27 AM |
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Reasonable, common-sense abrasive control will put a stop to such diabolical actions! n/t |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-05-11 12:03 PM |
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When nail files are illegal, only criminals will have nail files n/t |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 11:27 PM |
#125 |
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Nah, we're not trying to artificially drive up costs |
DissedByBush |
Sep-04-11 11:55 PM |
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Yep, that mugger that is behind every tree in public toters' paranoia are going to reload, cast |
Hoyt |
Sep-05-11 12:08 AM |
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They won't do it themselves; they'll just buy them off some unscrupulous individual... |
Euromutt |
Sep-07-11 02:43 AM |
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Don't bother- Our keyboard commando "knows" more about guns than published forensic examiners |
friendly_iconoclast |
Sep-05-11 12:16 AM |
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Quite possibly, or at least I don't have my head in the clouds |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 12:28 AM |
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A prosecuting attorney I know hates, hates, HATES CSI and their ilk*.. |
X_Digger |
Sep-05-11 12:31 AM |
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Dude, I've seen it done... |
rrneck |
Sep-05-11 12:44 AM |
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Sure, just as soon as we keep records of who withdraws what bills from ATMs... |
krispos42 |
Sep-05-11 07:31 AM |
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The keeping of records of ammunition was tried once. |
oneshooter |
Sep-05-11 09:45 AM |
#119 |
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