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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #75
84. any chance you feel like reading the converation you're joining?
What I replied to was:

The lessons his kids learned might save their lives ...
all children should receive some education on gun safety.


My reply was that the children were learning shooting.

I know this because it's what the fucking article was ABOUT.

Learning shooting is NOT learning gun safety.

Children may be taught "gun safety" appropriate for an 8-yr-old -- the kind that might "save their lives", the statement to which I was replying -- by teaching them IF YOU SEE A GUN DO NOT TOUCH IT AND CALL AN ADULT -- without teaching them shooting.

I'm always willing to help someone understand, but I sure wish it wasn't necessary so bloody often.

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  -Dad upset about kids shooting guns at Pasco Bible camp jpak  Aug-16-11 10:40 AM   #0 
  - New bumper sticker, "Kill for Christ!"  Lint Head   Aug-16-11 10:43 AM   #1 
  - Yeah, I'm sure that's what they were teaching.  PavePusher   Aug-16-11 02:50 PM   #49 
  - The Crusades.  Lint Head   Aug-16-11 10:54 PM   #71 
     - Just a little past it's sell-by date, huh? n/t  PavePusher   Aug-17-11 09:37 AM   #82 
  - It took you a whole 3 minutes to think of that, huh?  krispos42   Aug-16-11 09:00 PM   #65 
     - It took you 2 1/2 hours to think of a reply.  Lint Head   Aug-16-11 10:57 PM   #72 
        - Oooo, snark fail... again.  krispos42   Aug-16-11 11:17 PM   #74 
  - How many bibles did they shoot ? n/t  PoliticAverse   Aug-16-11 10:47 AM   #2 
  - This seems to be a dispute between the man and his x-wife.  Hangingon   Aug-16-11 10:48 AM   #3 
  - It gives the poster below a chance to chime in...  rfranklin   Aug-16-11 10:50 AM   #5 
  - do you think you've fooled anybody?  iverglas   Aug-16-11 11:09 AM   #12 
     - Sawrski can hie himself to court and attempt to get his custody agreement changed.  friendly_iconoclast   Aug-16-11 04:32 PM   #57 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-16-11 08:48 PM   #60 
  - Good on the camp for teaching gun safety and passing on an American tradition.  ileus   Aug-16-11 10:48 AM   #4 
  - Jesus was especially fond of his six shooter...  rfranklin   Aug-16-11 10:52 AM   #6 
  - Faith needs a backup.  ileus   Aug-16-11 10:55 AM   #9 
  - I liked the part of the Bible where Jesus shot it out with the Romans...  rfranklin   Aug-16-11 10:57 AM   #10 
     - David didn't pelt Golaith with bibles... n/t  PoliticAverse   Aug-16-11 11:03 AM   #11 
        - David was not a Christian...  rfranklin   Aug-16-11 03:12 PM   #53 
  - Some of his disciples carried swords ...  spin   Aug-16-11 03:59 PM   #55 
  - Luke 22:36  Francis Marion   Aug-19-11 09:43 PM   #137 
  - ah, "American traditions"  iverglas   Aug-16-11 11:14 AM   #13 
     - what does this have to do with Quakers?  gejohnston   Aug-16-11 11:49 AM   #27 
     - one man's tradition  iverglas   Aug-16-11 01:56 PM   #43 
     - I grew up as a Quaker.  PavePusher   Aug-16-11 02:51 PM   #50 
     - so did Richard Nixon  iverglas   Aug-16-11 03:10 PM   #52 
     - Some correction on your comments  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-11 11:28 PM   #76 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Aug-16-11 10:52 AM   #7 
  - Dad is a wimp...  Upton   Aug-16-11 10:53 AM   #8 
  - ah, you know him, do you?  iverglas   Aug-16-11 11:21 AM   #16 
  - Yup +1  Union Scribe   Aug-16-11 02:37 PM   #48 
  - Not the only wimp either. nt  Remmah2   Aug-17-11 09:31 AM   #80 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-16-11 11:15 AM   #14 
  - Well now, that wasn't ignorant and condescending...  We_Have_A_Problem   Aug-16-11 11:26 AM   #20 
  - It's called  Katya Mullethov   Aug-16-11 11:36 AM   #23 
  - Gah! Outstanding!  rrneck   Aug-16-11 01:16 PM   #39 
  - I shot guns at eight  gejohnston   Aug-16-11 11:41 AM   #24 
  - My kids started at 8  hack89   Aug-16-11 11:46 AM   #26 
  - my son shot his first deer last year at 6...my daughter started at 5  ileus   Aug-16-11 11:59 AM   #31 
  - I am an educated atheist liberal who thinks that letting your eight year old shoot a gun is crazy.  Walk away   Aug-16-11 12:59 PM   #38 
     - I am an educated atheist liberal  rrneck   Aug-16-11 01:18 PM   #40 
     - 'zactly.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:42 AM   #96 
     - Why? What age is appropriate? nt  hack89   Aug-16-11 01:27 PM   #41 
     - Great - that's your view.  We_Have_A_Problem   Aug-16-11 03:22 PM   #54 
     - and it's the father's view  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:49 AM   #87 
        - I see no need to attack him. But if he wanted input on this sort of thing  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:43 AM   #97 
        - Attacking him?  gejohnston   Aug-17-11 01:04 PM   #116 
           - just no respect for persons or truth whatsoever  iverglas   Aug-17-11 03:02 PM   #120 
              - if I could, I would tell it to his face  gejohnston   Aug-17-11 03:45 PM   #121 
                 - yeah, that's really brave; phone him  iverglas   Aug-17-11 05:55 PM   #125 
     - My parents were both Union Democrats, through and through.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:42 AM   #95 
     - my giggle for the afternoon  iverglas   Aug-17-11 11:10 AM   #104 
        - I drove my first vehicle about the same age.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 11:25 AM   #107 
        - 8 and 10 year olds driving  one-eyed fat man   Aug-17-11 01:09 PM   #117 
        - I'll bet you just have no idea how many children have been killed  iverglas   Aug-17-11 06:03 PM   #127 
           - When we came to the US in 1954  one-eyed fat man   Aug-17-11 08:17 PM   #133 
        - 8 year olds drive on farms across america ALL THE TIME. N/T  beevul   Aug-18-11 05:20 AM   #134 
           - READ POST 127 N/T  iverglas   Aug-19-11 09:56 PM   #138 
              - What about it?  beevul   Aug-20-11 02:47 AM   #139 
     - Guess what's for supper?  one-eyed fat man   Aug-17-11 12:43 PM   #115 
     - I am an educated atheist liberal who thinks people who are afraid of guns are  Fred Engels   Aug-18-11 06:37 PM   #136 
  - they're missing because the 8yo's shot them.  ileus   Aug-16-11 11:58 AM   #30 
  - I wish you would follow the advice of your...  SteveM   Aug-16-11 12:11 PM   #34 
  - Ahem. The guy that wrote *this* sent my brother and I to camp, where we learned to shoot  friendly_iconoclast   Aug-16-11 12:38 PM   #36 
  - well at least you aren't claiming to be an educated atheist liberal  iverglas   Aug-16-11 02:02 PM   #44 
     - And still he let his boys learn about, and shoot, guns.  friendly_iconoclast   Aug-16-11 04:52 PM   #58 
        - and my parents gave me Tolstoy's Resurrection when I was 12  iverglas   Aug-16-11 08:51 PM   #61 
           - Slacker. Rostand's Cyrano de Begerac at 7.  friendly_iconoclast   Aug-16-11 09:13 PM   #68 
              - if you keep begging, I'm going to have to give you bacon  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:35 AM   #81 
  - Vile bigotry much?  PavePusher   Aug-16-11 02:52 PM   #51 
  - Little tip....  one-eyed fat man   Aug-17-11 12:27 PM   #114 
  - At the age of 9, I found a Marlin .22 under the Xmas tree. A gift from my Marxist mother  Marengo   Aug-18-11 06:52 AM   #135 
  - may I suggest that Dad not send his kids to that camp next year.  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-16-11 11:21 AM   #15 
  - you've missed all your colleagues' charming posts  iverglas   Aug-16-11 11:23 AM   #18 
     - ah,  Tuesday Afternoon   Aug-16-11 11:25 AM   #19 
     - Bummer for him.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:47 AM   #98 
  - the amusing thing  iverglas   Aug-16-11 11:22 AM   #17 
  - So is "freedom to choose"- even things that I personally wouldn't.  friendly_iconoclast   Aug-16-11 12:23 PM   #35 
  - what does that have to do with the post you replied to?  iverglas   Aug-16-11 02:09 PM   #46 
     - Really?  We_Have_A_Problem   Aug-17-11 06:02 PM   #126 
        - 1 + 1 =  iverglas   Aug-17-11 06:05 PM   #129 
  - Even in Canada  one-eyed fat man   Aug-17-11 02:58 PM   #119 
     - what is this, random thoughts in a random subthread day?  iverglas   Aug-17-11 06:20 PM   #130 
     - btw ... plagiarize much?  iverglas   Aug-17-11 06:23 PM   #131 
  - It's pretty much standard at Boy Scout and Cub Scout Camp too.  Remmah2   Aug-16-11 11:32 AM   #21 
  - handguns and semi-automatic weapons?  iverglas   Aug-16-11 11:35 AM   #22 
     - that sounds more like the guy being  gejohnston   Aug-16-11 11:46 AM   #25 
     - Sure - this is what my kids learned on  hack89   Aug-16-11 11:50 AM   #28 
     - not semi-automatic; Pre-Assault Weapons.  Remmah2   Aug-16-11 12:03 PM   #33 
     - Don't know what kind of handguns...  We_Have_A_Problem   Aug-16-11 12:40 PM   #37 
     - My camp had semi-auto rifles  X_Digger   Aug-16-11 01:53 PM   #42 
     - Neither are particularly different than bolt action and pose no additional risk  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-11 11:31 PM   #77 
     - I'll teach my son on a Ruger 10/22 or a Marlin Pappoose.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:49 AM   #99 
  - I guess he wants his kids to be ignorant  DissedByBush   Aug-16-11 11:53 AM   #29 
  - more childrens deaths = more post = good news...  ileus   Aug-16-11 02:02 PM   #45 
  - I guess there's one ignorant person here anyhow  iverglas   Aug-16-11 02:16 PM   #47 
     - His attitude  DissedByBush   Aug-16-11 08:44 PM   #59 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-16-11 08:54 PM   #62 
           - Nice sidestepping of the issue  DissedByBush   Aug-16-11 09:26 PM   #69 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-17-11 09:38 AM   #83 
              - Is this another example of your commitment to civil discourse?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-17-11 11:49 AM   #111 
              - Interesting debate tactic  DissedByBush   Aug-17-11 05:02 PM   #124 
           - You may not...  We_Have_A_Problem   Aug-17-11 06:04 PM   #128 
  - I shot every year at Boy Scout Camp.  Atypical Liberal   Aug-16-11 12:02 PM   #32 
  - And that's why you've been shooting up an ACORN office once a month...  krispos42   Aug-16-11 09:03 PM   #66 
  - The lessons his kids learned might save their lives ...  spin   Aug-16-11 04:03 PM   #56 
  - "chances are they will be exposed to one during their life"  iverglas   Aug-16-11 08:56 PM   #63 
     - Any you know this how?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-11 11:18 PM   #75 
     - any chance you feel like reading the converation you're joining?  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:42 AM   #84 
        - When you have a some knowledge of what was being taught, get back to us  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-17-11 09:50 AM   #88 
        - what utter bullshit  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:52 AM   #90 
           - What an inability to see beyond your prejudices  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-17-11 10:11 AM   #93 
           - what a web you weave yourself  iverglas   Aug-17-11 11:15 AM   #105 
              - I suggest you review posts #100 and #101  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-17-11 11:48 AM   #110 
           - If we were discussing 4 year olds...  We_Have_A_Problem   Aug-17-11 11:50 AM   #113 
        - Again, I disagree.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:53 AM   #101 
     - Nope.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:52 AM   #100 
     - They are far more likely to pick the gun up and have an accidental discharge ...  spin   Aug-17-11 01:40 PM   #118 
  - Which is riskier... the swimming or the shooting?  krispos42   Aug-16-11 08:56 PM   #64 
     - which is more important that children learn how to do?  iverglas   Aug-16-11 09:06 PM   #67 
        - How about both?  krispos42   Aug-16-11 10:06 PM   #70 
        - how about answer the question?  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:28 AM   #78 
           - You have simply stated what many of us already know.  Remmah2   Aug-17-11 09:59 AM   #92 
           - He surrendered his right to say shit about it, when he lost or gave up custody.  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 10:55 AM   #102 
           - and this is responsive to anything I said ... how?  iverglas   Aug-17-11 11:18 AM   #106 
              - quoting  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 11:27 AM   #108 
                 - so the fucking fuck what???  iverglas   Aug-17-11 03:54 PM   #122 
                    - Like what?  AtheistCrusader   Aug-17-11 05:00 PM   #123 
           - It was a gun safety class at the camp.  krispos42   Aug-17-11 11:29 AM   #109 
        - Both. For some summer camp is the only time they get to do either  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-11 11:17 PM   #73 
        - how about you answer the question?  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:51 AM   #89 
           - Your question assumes a binary position that is not reasonable nor all that rationale  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-17-11 10:31 AM   #94 
              - if you don't want to answer the question  iverglas   Aug-17-11 11:08 AM   #103 
                 - It has been corrected by several of us...  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-17-11 11:50 AM   #112 
        - I taught my children both.  Remmah2   Aug-17-11 09:30 AM   #79 
           - how about you answer the question?  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:43 AM   #85 
           - If one lives in a desert, a life preserver is rather useless.  Remmah2   Aug-17-11 09:57 AM   #91 
           - In Florida I would like to see kids trained in how to swim and how to safely handle a firearm ...  spin   Aug-17-11 06:39 PM   #132 
           - deleted, double post  iverglas   Aug-17-11 09:45 AM   #86 
 

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