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Tue Aug-09-11 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #153 |
| 154. No it isnt beyond belief |
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I know a few - and they're just like anyone else. Dont screw with them, and they wont screw with you.
As far as if they did anything illegal, since all we have is hearsay and open carry is legal in that area, we must assume what they did was legal until proven otherwise.
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| -A relative of mine says he saw members of the Iron Horsemen M/C gang openly carrying at a restaurant |
jpak |
Aug-07-11 06:51 PM |
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If they are felons and known |
GKirk |
Aug-07-11 06:53 PM |
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howzat? |
iverglas |
Aug-07-11 07:06 PM |
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Again, you seem to be making up laws for your own amusement. |
TheWraith |
Aug-07-11 07:11 PM |
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gang markings and a weapon? |
iverglas |
Aug-07-11 07:22 PM |
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Okay, I'll explain it for you simply. |
TheWraith |
Aug-07-11 07:35 PM |
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I disagree with your last sentence.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-11 07:52 PM |
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No, but being a felon with a firearm is illegal. |
TheWraith |
Aug-07-11 07:56 PM |
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dog all bleeding mighty |
iverglas |
Aug-07-11 08:04 PM |
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"dog all bleeding mighty" |
rl6214 |
Aug-08-11 04:32 PM |
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The police officer doesn't have to KNOW that a crime is being committed in order to make inquiries. |
TheWraith |
Aug-08-11 07:39 PM |
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how about you stop pretending that your stupid statements are "my" "logic"? |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:06 AM |
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Being a felon != being a member in a gang. |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-11 08:10 PM |
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you can seriously doubt anything you like |
iverglas |
Aug-07-11 08:02 PM |
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What the police certainly can do is to take a couple of minutes and run the plates of |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-07-11 10:39 PM |
#39 |
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gee, what if they walked in? |
iverglas |
Aug-08-11 11:31 AM |
#60 |
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Gee, what if they did? |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-08-11 03:50 PM |
#102 |
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clearly, you decided to pretend I said something I didn't |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:10 AM |
#143 |
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yeah right....those Bikers walked. |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-09-11 03:18 PM |
#165 |
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Um.. |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-08-11 12:33 AM |
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eh? |
iverglas |
Aug-08-11 11:32 AM |
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Might be a regional thing. |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-08-11 12:10 PM |
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"felons and known to the police" |
PavePusher |
Aug-08-11 08:02 AM |
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Fuck you. |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-08-11 12:11 PM |
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Except for lemon. Gah. n/t |
X_Digger |
Aug-08-11 12:19 PM |
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What's up with that. |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-08-11 12:27 PM |
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Well played... |
PavePusher |
Aug-08-11 12:48 PM |
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Green Jello is Naaaasssss- TEE NT |
RSillsbee |
Aug-08-11 04:14 PM |
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Not sure what was confusing about my comment.... |
GKirk |
Aug-08-11 01:29 PM |
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That might not be so easy... |
TreasonousBastard |
Aug-07-11 07:30 PM |
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heh, I read that too |
iverglas |
Aug-07-11 08:12 PM |
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Intimidation is the whole point of open carry. |
baldguy |
Aug-07-11 06:54 PM |
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Aug-07-11 06:57 PM |
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gong on you....the point of OC is SD same as CC. A gun in plain view isn't intimidating... |
ileus |
Aug-07-11 08:38 PM |
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Really? Is that the best you can do? |
tortoise1956 |
Aug-07-11 09:13 PM |
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That's odd, one of your allies claims that OC is honest, and CC is 'deceptive'. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Aug-08-11 01:46 AM |
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Glad you pointed that out |
rl6214 |
Aug-08-11 04:36 PM |
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Try this the next time you encounter an open-carry person: |
SteveM |
Aug-08-11 03:08 PM |
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You need to be prepared to talk about bores and stuff. |
Hoyt |
Aug-09-11 05:58 AM |
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WRONG |
rl6214 |
Aug-08-11 04:35 PM |
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streets |
wingzeroday |
Aug-07-11 06:59 PM |
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... |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-11 07:15 PM |
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so let's take it as one of those hypotheticals |
iverglas |
Aug-07-11 07:23 PM |
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If a cop recognized someone he knew was a felon, he could do a Terry stop and arrest as a.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-11 07:38 PM |
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yeah, I already said that |
iverglas |
Aug-07-11 07:57 PM |
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Beyond observation? No.. |
X_Digger |
Aug-07-11 08:32 PM |
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Rep |
Oneka |
Aug-08-11 07:48 AM |
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Was he a felon? is OC legal? OC intimidates who? |
ileus |
Aug-07-11 08:26 PM |
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It was a large group of them - all carrying, all in colors - in a "Family Restaurant" |
jpak |
Aug-07-11 08:29 PM |
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so were they shooting up the place like in those old westerns? |
ileus |
Aug-07-11 08:31 PM |
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If want to hang with these assholes with your family - you have my blessing |
jpak |
Aug-07-11 08:37 PM |
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why must you call them names...did they brake any law? can't you let them eat in peace? |
ileus |
Aug-07-11 08:39 PM |
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They are sociopaths and they suck |
jpak |
Aug-07-11 08:50 PM |
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They didn't shoot up the place...everything was peaceful. |
ileus |
Aug-07-11 09:02 PM |
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No it wasn't - people left and the staff was concerned for their safety |
jpak |
Aug-07-11 09:22 PM |
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who is us? |
ileus |
Aug-07-11 09:38 PM |
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Sucks for you... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 09:36 AM |
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Too many episodes of SOA |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 12:07 PM |
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actually, it sucks for business owners |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:14 AM |
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Shall we apply such guilt by association... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-09-11 11:23 AM |
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if they walk around displaying firearms? |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:34 AM |
#153 |
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No it isnt beyond belief |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-09-11 11:38 AM |
#154 |
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Why are you living in fear? |
PavePusher |
Aug-08-11 11:26 AM |
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My relative is a sane young man who knows danger when he sees it |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 12:12 PM |
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You can tell their criminal history and day-to-day conduct... |
PavePusher |
Aug-08-11 12:44 PM |
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That group does have a criminal history - sorry to disappoint |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 01:43 PM |
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Members of the group may... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 01:47 PM |
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yeah, some people join criminal biker gangs |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:15 AM |
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And I'm sure you know just SOOOO much about... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-09-11 11:24 AM |
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Actually, I do |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:46 AM |
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ROFL! |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-09-11 11:52 AM |
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forgive me |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:57 AM |
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Never said they dont exist. |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-09-11 11:58 AM |
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I'm sure your anecdotes are amusing to your friends |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 12:15 PM |
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Hmm. Auto-induced "stereotyping." Save you the trouble? nt |
SteveM |
Aug-08-11 03:11 PM |
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Do you stereotype all muslim looking youmg men when you |
rl6214 |
Aug-08-11 04:40 PM |
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are you the one suggesting that "muslim looking" |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:17 AM |
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Making things up again, as usual |
rl6214 |
Aug-09-11 08:39 PM |
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Yeah, it couldn't possibly be for... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 05:09 PM |
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Only if you are from an enemy gang |
gejohnston |
Aug-09-11 12:47 AM |
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do you peopleknow ANYTHING about criminal biker gangs?? |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:27 AM |
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I know a lot more than you do... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-09-11 11:39 AM |
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yes, I'm sure you have good friends in the Hells Angels |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:47 AM |
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I wouldnt call them "good friends" |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-09-11 11:52 AM |
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Wait, don't tell us |
rl6214 |
Aug-09-11 08:44 PM |
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judgmental much? |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Aug-07-11 09:18 PM |
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our world? |
gejohnston |
Aug-07-11 09:21 PM |
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Yup - Open Carry Mad Max World |
jpak |
Aug-07-11 09:55 PM |
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"Mad Max World." Where did you see such? |
SteveM |
Aug-08-11 03:12 PM |
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You're right, this is why I conceal carry in your family restaraunt. |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-08-11 12:36 AM |
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That does not pass the smell test |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-08-11 01:37 AM |
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And this is a problem why? |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-08-11 10:58 AM |
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Yes, OC is legal in the state of Maine. (n/t) |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-07-11 10:41 PM |
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bfd |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Aug-07-11 08:52 PM |
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I bet our cowboys here eating there would have hands near their waist, and some also near ankles or |
Hoyt |
Aug-07-11 10:13 PM |
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We're talking about bikers not indians... |
ileus |
Aug-07-11 10:19 PM |
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naaaaaaa |
gejohnston |
Aug-07-11 10:20 PM |
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Your imagination is entertaining. |
AtheistCrusader |
Aug-08-11 12:35 AM |
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I doubt this even happened |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-08-11 01:35 AM |
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Ah, to hear you guys -- there's a mugger behind every tree and a gang waiting to invade your home. |
Hoyt |
Aug-08-11 07:54 AM |
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and a gang invading every Ryans evidently. |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 12:08 PM |
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Ah, to hear you |
rrneck |
Aug-08-11 12:11 PM |
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Uh, I think you miss-posted. Should be for OP. nt |
SteveM |
Aug-08-11 03:13 PM |
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Not from me. In my part of SoCal there are threats in the trees |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-08-11 04:36 PM |
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If in middle of nowhere, carry away. Just don't be too quick to shoot a cougar because you can. |
Hoyt |
Aug-08-11 06:33 PM |
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Rattlesnakes |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-08-11 09:45 PM |
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But none of them would pee their pants and run |
RSillsbee |
Aug-08-11 04:19 PM |
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Another gunner who can't walk out of his house without a gun or two posting about others' "fear." |
Hoyt |
Aug-09-11 05:53 AM |
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I have no obligation to accomodate another person's irrational fears |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-09-11 07:58 AM |
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how clever of you to say |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:20 AM |
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Fail |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-09-11 08:01 PM |
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and has to toss the obligatory "little girl" |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:19 AM |
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I'd take that bet |
rl6214 |
Aug-08-11 04:49 PM |
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Put your guns up, and figure out the logistics or recreating the scene. |
Hoyt |
Aug-09-11 05:55 AM |
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Speaking of cowboys, where is the picture you promised? n/t |
oneshooter |
Aug-08-11 07:39 PM |
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I seriously doubt this actually occured |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-08-11 01:34 AM |
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Someone's been watching old episodes of SOA? LOL |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 05:59 AM |
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They were wearing colors - with their club name on them. |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 07:56 AM |
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Are you sure that your relative could tell the |
S_B_Jackson |
Aug-08-11 10:49 AM |
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Yes he can - and the more jerks that open carry, the more pressure there will be for repeal |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 12:01 PM |
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Uh - yeah... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 01:37 PM |
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Reason for the Open Carry push? Continued silly gun-control efforts. |
SteveM |
Aug-08-11 03:15 PM |
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Maybe they got a group discount on the GLOCK's? n/t |
PavePusher |
Aug-08-11 11:28 AM |
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the LEO discount... |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 12:09 PM |
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So they were all carrying the same type gun ? |
RSillsbee |
Aug-08-11 04:22 PM |
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So many "colors" look very similar...could just as likely have been the Blue Knights |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Aug-08-11 04:38 PM |
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That reminds me |
gejohnston |
Aug-09-11 12:41 AM |
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Well then, we know that 6pak has been raising a stink here for a long time. n/t |
oneshooter |
Aug-08-11 07:41 PM |
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I saw M/C gang with toys strapped to their bikes for Toys for Tots. |
drpepper67 |
Aug-08-11 09:10 AM |
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Were they the Hell's Angels, Outlaws, Iron Horsemen? Nope |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 12:00 PM |
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Could have been... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 12:02 PM |
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BOTW? |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 12:09 PM |
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HUH? n/t |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 01:33 PM |
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How would you know what I saw? |
drpepper67 |
Aug-08-11 07:09 PM |
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Here's something you need to learn how to do: "cite". Examples: |
PavePusher |
Aug-08-11 11:53 PM |
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actually, Hells Angels do do this |
iverglas |
Aug-09-11 11:33 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-09-11 11:46 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-09-11 11:52 AM |
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Where is the ... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 11:31 AM |
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May have been some "fragrant intimidation;" otherwise, not much here. n t |
SteveM |
Aug-08-11 03:16 PM |
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When I google |
rrneck |
Aug-08-11 12:18 PM |
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The google is not yer friend |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 01:46 PM |
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It appears to be |
rrneck |
Aug-08-11 01:53 PM |
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Do you have actual proof... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 01:55 PM |
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No, my relative is pathological liar and tells stories all the time |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 02:40 PM |
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Well that would make sense... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 02:42 PM |
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If this is your vision of Amerika then Somalia is in great shape |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 02:48 PM |
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It really bothers you... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 02:51 PM |
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Yes, it does - it is not the America I grew up in |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 03:15 PM |
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OC has been around for as long as I can remember. |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 03:17 PM |
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Not in the civilized parts of the US |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 03:24 PM |
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All of America is civilized... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 03:29 PM |
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Where I come from, "open carry" meant "opening day" not a meal at a family restaurant |
jpak |
Aug-08-11 04:18 PM |
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Where would that be? |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 04:47 PM |
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where were you? |
gejohnston |
Aug-08-11 07:36 PM |
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Maine is not civilized? |
rl6214 |
Aug-08-11 04:52 PM |
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I don't know |
gejohnston |
Aug-08-11 07:39 PM |
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Virginia isn't civilized? |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 08:37 PM |
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Ohio isn't civilized? |
ileus |
Aug-08-11 09:22 PM |
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Au contraire, mon ami... |
PavePusher |
Aug-08-11 11:57 PM |
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Most Americans... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 03:30 PM |
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I would not say that. But I can't help but wonder if |
gejohnston |
Aug-09-11 12:54 AM |
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As they say in court. |
Remmah2 |
Aug-08-11 02:52 PM |
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You sure it wasn't |
Glassunion |
Aug-08-11 04:22 PM |
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Heck, for all we know... |
We_Have_A_Problem |
Aug-08-11 05:12 PM |
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My brothers, wifes third cousin on her mothers isde has a fieind |
rl6214 |
Aug-08-11 04:24 PM |
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This relative |
Katya Mullethov |
Aug-08-11 07:25 PM |
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From Moscow Idaho? nt |
rrneck |
Aug-08-11 09:19 PM |
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Iron horsemen a 1%er group? |
YllwFvr |
Aug-08-11 09:09 PM |
#129 |