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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #117
121. There is zero reason for someone to start a confrontation with me in the woods, period.
None at all.

If someone does, the bar for 'alarmed for my safety' is entirely up to my subjective interpretation, but I may have to explain that bar I selected to a judge/grand jury, sitting in a comfortable air-conditioned room, with no experience in such events, in cold blood, when they have better things to do.

Essentially, I stated nothing different than any other situation wherein I might fear for my safety and be justified in using lethal force in self defense. Please do not try to artificially read anything else into my statement.


My question stands unanswered: Is that poster starting a lot of confrontations in which someone carrying a firearm might become alarmed?
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  -Looking for a new CCW waistpouch Kennah  Jul-28-11 04:03 AM   #0 
  - isn't this the gun policy forum?  iverglas   Jul-28-11 04:09 AM   #1 
  - Outdoor Life is for sport shooting discussions  Kennah   Jul-28-11 04:45 AM   #3 
  - shoots and misses  iverglas   Jul-28-11 05:44 AM   #7 
  - iverglas never even loads one in the chamber  Kennah   Jul-28-11 01:37 PM   #22 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-28-11 02:04 PM   #31 
        - Well, your efforts do look like a wordy breach-burst. nt  SteveM   Jul-28-11 02:23 PM   #35 
        - Alert me when you make Mod, but when last I checked it's 178°F in Gehenna.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:04 AM   #68 
  - Proper holsters  jeepnstein   Jul-28-11 12:04 PM   #15 
     - Why would you carry concealed in the woods?  Starboard Tack   Jul-28-11 02:38 PM   #37 
        - remember, it's a fashion statemet!  iverglas   Jul-28-11 02:41 PM   #39 
        - I think the whole thing is hilarious  Starboard Tack   Jul-28-11 02:59 PM   #41 
        - oh dear  iverglas   Jul-28-11 03:08 PM   #42 
           - Don't know if you want to go that far  Starboard Tack   Jul-28-11 07:26 PM   #54 
        - Maybe in your village...  ProgressiveProfessor   Jul-29-11 12:30 AM   #67 
        - Reading is fundamental  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-11 03:33 PM   #47 
        - Why would anyone carry a handgun in the woods?  Starboard Tack   Jul-28-11 07:30 PM   #55 
           - Do you understand the need for the right to do so? nt  rrneck   Jul-28-11 08:15 PM   #59 
           - Of course. You know I do, but I'm not questioning their rights  Starboard Tack   Jul-28-11 10:25 PM   #61 
              - People get mugged, raped, and murdered im the woods too. nt  rrneck   Jul-28-11 10:51 PM   #63 
              - They do? Oh, yeah "Deliverance"  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 03:18 PM   #100 
                 - now, that one  iverglas   Jul-29-11 03:28 PM   #103 
                 - Hey, if I see Dick Cheney  gejohnston   Jul-29-11 03:45 PM   #106 
                 - Me too. LOL  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 04:05 PM   #111 
                 - When i lived in Nashville  rrneck   Jul-29-11 05:07 PM   #115 
                    - To be honest, if I lived in Nashville, a city I have driven through numerous times  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 05:59 PM   #172 
                       - LOL  rrneck   Jul-30-11 06:22 PM   #173 
                          - Yep, done Memphis too, but if I lived in either place I'd arm up and trade the Prius for a Hummer  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 07:43 PM   #178 
              - I can think of several reasons  tortoise1956   Jul-29-11 12:25 AM   #66 
              - All valid reasons to carry a shotgun  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 03:28 PM   #102 
                 - A shotgun if you are expecting something. If not expecting trouble the handgun  Hoopla Phil   Jul-29-11 05:58 PM   #126 
              - and lord only knows why someone would imply you were  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:11 AM   #79 
              - Nice for you to ask for information, since you are not familiar with this topic.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 10:17 AM   #82 
                 - The only thing I'd be afraid of in the woods would be encountering  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 03:38 PM   #105 
                    - 44 mag, huge  gejohnston   Jul-29-11 03:50 PM   #107 
                    - Yep. I'll stick with a 12 gauge in any outdoor situation where bears or wil boar roam  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 03:59 PM   #109 
                       - You know, I hear that Sara Palin prefers a 12 gauge while hiking too.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-29-11 06:05 PM   #128 
                          - Me neither. So I carry a GPS and cellphone if anything  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 07:14 PM   #137 
                             - Ain't life grand? Nobody telling you what you can and cannot choose to carry,  Hoopla Phil   Jul-29-11 07:51 PM   #141 
                                - Nobody has the right to tell you what, why or how to carry.  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 08:07 PM   #143 
                                   - Your right, walking around with a GPS in public is a distraction and dangerous. It should  Hoopla Phil   Jul-29-11 08:26 PM   #144 
                                      - Why would you advocate banning a GPS in public? Defies logic  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 09:17 PM   #145 
                                         - Hey, I'm just agreeing with you. We seem to have a  Hoopla Phil   Jul-30-11 09:54 AM   #162 
                    - As I said, you don't know much about this issue.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 04:39 PM   #112 
                    - whoa, that's edging over toward the weird  iverglas   Jul-29-11 05:22 PM   #117 
                    - There is zero reason for someone to start a confrontation with me in the woods, period.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 05:30 PM   #121 
                    - Which handgun would you recommend for killing grizzlies?  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 09:47 PM   #146 
                    - Charter Arms has a great snub nosed .44 just for Grizzly defense.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-29-11 06:02 PM   #127 
                       - I'll go with the pepper spray  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 09:50 PM   #147 
                          - Carry both  krispos42   Jul-31-11 11:02 AM   #185 
           - I carry mine as a close predator support firearm....never in the woods without my 45  ileus   Jul-29-11 07:50 PM   #140 
        - I CC in the woods...  Marengo   Jul-28-11 08:11 PM   #57 
        - Which part seems sensible?  Starboard Tack   Jul-28-11 10:36 PM   #62 
           - Carrying concealed and in the woods makes sense to me.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:09 AM   #70 
           - If you eschew confrontation I have 2 questions for you  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 03:22 PM   #101 
              - Easy.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 04:41 PM   #113 
              - That's you, not our friend Kennah who eschews confrontation  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 06:45 PM   #135 
              - I should have been more specific  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:12 PM   #149 
                 - Good. I eschew physical confrontations too and I abhor violence  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 02:12 PM   #169 
                    - You could argue over the 1A when the Internet didn't exist. Still a poor argument.  Kennah   Jul-30-11 08:03 PM   #179 
           - Well, all three points are sensible...  Marengo   Jul-29-11 06:31 AM   #76 
           - Maybe it's just me, but none of it makes sense  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 10:05 AM   #163 
              - Um, concealed means hidden, you can't see it.  Marengo   Jul-30-11 11:06 AM   #164 
              - What you see as an act of courtesy I see as an act of deceipt  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 11:18 AM   #165 
                 - What a facile, childish response...  Marengo   Aug-02-11 06:37 AM   #186 
              - If he/she were carrying concealed, then how could you know? Magic? n/t  oneshooter   Jul-30-11 11:49 AM   #167 
                 - Hmm! Lemme think. Oh yeah, maybe that fashionista gun pouch he's wearing  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 01:18 PM   #168 
                    - No, I only carry one, a SIG 220. I have faith in my weapon, and my ability to use it. n/t  oneshooter   Jul-30-11 06:36 PM   #175 
                       - Which version? Combat, carry, compact?  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 07:19 PM   #177 
                          - The full size 220, 45cal.. I carry IWB strong side with a 30deg cant.  oneshooter   Jul-30-11 09:07 PM   #184 
           - All of the above.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 10:18 AM   #85 
           - All of them.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-29-11 06:09 PM   #129 
        - I can carry openly in the woods here in WA, but I still carry concealed  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:06 AM   #69 
           - Then why would you carry a handgun?  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 02:48 PM   #97 
              - Why not?  gejohnston   Jul-29-11 03:57 PM   #108 
              - Why not? When I'm hiking I don't carry more than I need  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 04:04 PM   #110 
                 - That is, of course, your choice based upon your interpretation of risk assessment.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 04:44 PM   #114 
                 - ah, just what I've been looking for, a case in point  iverglas   Jul-29-11 05:26 PM   #119 
                    - They were not carrying a firearm.  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 05:35 PM   #122 
                       - ah yes, as I've said  iverglas   Jul-29-11 06:29 PM   #130 
                          - Side point  AtheistCrusader   Jul-29-11 06:34 PM   #131 
                             - absolutely  iverglas   Jul-29-11 06:42 PM   #133 
                 - Did come in handy  gejohnston   Jul-29-11 05:15 PM   #116 
                    - Reminds me of my grandma  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 07:20 PM   #138 
              - It's not fear. It's preparedness. Like wearing a seatbelt.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:14 PM   #150 
                 - are there people where you're at who are prohibited from wearing seatbelts?  iverglas   Jul-30-11 09:45 AM   #161 
                 - No it isn't anything like wearing a seatbelt.  Starboard Tack   Jul-30-11 02:30 PM   #171 
                 - Pretty poor design given how infrequently handguns kill  Kennah   Jul-30-11 08:05 PM   #180 
                 - Exactly...a handgun is just another life saving device...a PSD if you will.  ileus   Jul-30-11 06:31 PM   #174 
  - And thank you for moderating where it's not needed  Kennah   Jul-28-11 04:46 AM   #4 
     - oh, but I want to thank you more  iverglas   Jul-28-11 05:42 AM   #6 
        - and things pertaining to self defense  ileus   Jul-28-11 12:32 PM   #18 
        - You keep doing hit and run, and you're going to kill someone  Kennah   Jul-28-11 01:33 PM   #21 
  - Is a waist pouch like a fanny pack? I've got one in black leather for my 1911  OffWithTheirHeads   Jul-28-11 04:14 AM   #2 
  - I think certainly a low key fashion sense should be part of a pouch  Kennah   Jul-28-11 01:42 PM   #24 
  - Why don't you hire a fashion consultant?  Kolesar   Jul-28-11 05:06 AM   #5 
  - ...  CountAllVotes   Jul-28-11 06:00 AM   #8 
  - Crochet one.  TheCowsCameHome   Jul-28-11 06:00 AM   #9 
  - LOL  Hoyt   Jul-28-11 07:46 AM   #11 
  - Nows a good time to quit carrying the dang things.  Hoyt   Jul-28-11 07:46 AM   #10 
  - And the WCTU (yes, they're still around) will tell you the same thing about drinking  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-28-11 12:23 PM   #17 
  - First point is that DU is not the Gun Shoppers Network. Second, folks don't need to carry.  Hoyt   Jul-28-11 12:47 PM   #19 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-28-11 01:32 PM   #20 
     - First, I missed your appointment as mod. Second, don't care about your thoughts on my needs.  Kennah   Jul-28-11 01:51 PM   #26 
     - that just makes us all even, doesn't it?  iverglas   Jul-28-11 03:45 PM   #48 
        - Sounds like wind blowing, but less intelligent.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:10 AM   #71 
     - OWB all the way I'll never IWB  ileus   Jul-29-11 08:02 PM   #142 
     - I go with either IWB or waistpouch. OWB v. IWB, I don't get too emotional about one or the other.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:16 PM   #151 
        - It's all personal choice...  ileus   Jul-30-11 02:17 PM   #170 
     - This one is better.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-30-11 06:54 PM   #176 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-28-11 01:38 PM   #23 
  - G23 Excellent choice in a carry pistol...good taste, great firearm.  ileus   Jul-28-11 08:23 AM   #12 
  - Here's a good pouch candidate.  ileus   Jul-28-11 08:58 AM   #13 
  - Ya know, I really like it. Wonder if I could get a local seamstress to sew a velcro patch inside.  Kennah   Jul-28-11 01:46 PM   #25 
  - This is the style that I use.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-11 11:04 AM   #14 
  - +1000!  Kennah   Jul-28-11 02:02 PM   #29 
  - Glad to help. I bought my first one in 1995. Had to get a replacement two years ago.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-11 02:35 PM   #36 
  - OOH! They have purple!  Kennah   Jul-28-11 02:03 PM   #30 
  - I'd personally get a pink one, just to mess with heads all across the political spectrum.  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-28-11 11:01 PM   #64 
     - I'm secure enough to wear pink ...  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:16 AM   #72 
     - don't worry about that  gejohnston   Jul-29-11 05:37 PM   #123 
     - hell yeah, why not exploit one MORE stereotyped group  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:15 AM   #81 
        - And what "stereotyped group" would that be? What do they "look and act like"?  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-29-11 12:35 PM   #92 
        - What color is the sky in your world?  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:17 PM   #152 
           - well I'll tell you one thing  iverglas   Jul-30-11 09:42 AM   #158 
              - That wasn't fair of me to ask  Kennah   Jul-30-11 08:07 PM   #181 
  - On a side note, is it not interesting all the spam being posted by the anti's?  Tuesday Afternoon   Jul-29-11 01:05 PM   #95 
     - Yep. You'd think we were talking about a woman's right to choose rather than  Hoopla Phil   Jul-29-11 05:55 PM   #124 
  - Try Galco.com, they used to make them in different colors n/t  Lurks Often   Jul-28-11 12:19 PM   #16 
  - I often see discussions of commercial products in other DU forums. Like, don't like, etc.  Kennah   Jul-28-11 01:58 PM   #27 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-28-11 02:10 PM   #33 
  - What do you mean by anti-gun loons?  Starboard Tack   Jul-28-11 02:55 PM   #40 
  - oh, now, be careful  iverglas   Jul-28-11 03:11 PM   #44 
  - I thought is was plainly obvious. Is that a commentary on me. . .or on you???  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-11 03:22 PM   #45 
  - well, I would say  iverglas   Jul-28-11 03:50 PM   #50 
  - Going batshit crazy over asking if anyone has any ideas of a good waistpouch counts.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:20 AM   #73 
     - fascinating  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:04 AM   #77 
     - If this thread offends you so much, why don't you just hide it?  tammywammy   Jul-29-11 10:17 AM   #83 
        - because I'm not a scaredy-cat  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:21 AM   #86 
     - Well, it's somewhat unusual to discuss fashion accessories in a political forum  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 03:10 PM   #99 
        - check out the Lounge some time -  Tuesday Afternoon   Jul-29-11 05:57 PM   #125 
        - I wouldn't call them political forums.  Starboard Tack   Jul-29-11 06:39 PM   #132 
           - wow, duh,eh?  iverglas   Jul-29-11 06:44 PM   #134 
        - Clearly appears to be a very politically charged fashion accessory  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:27 PM   #153 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-28-11 03:10 PM   #43 
  - You'll shoot yer junk off!  jpak   Jul-28-11 01:58 PM   #28 
  - There are these things called rules  Kennah   Jul-28-11 02:05 PM   #32 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-28-11 02:14 PM   #34 
     - yes there are indeed  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:08 AM   #78 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-28-11 02:38 PM   #38 
  - Well, seeing as how the mods have visited this thread now (note the deleted posts) and it remains  Hoopla Phil   Jul-28-11 03:27 PM   #46 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-28-11 03:49 PM   #49 
  - The post is about a legit self defense subject.  ileus   Jul-28-11 04:23 PM   #52 
     - this post is about FANNY PACKS  iverglas   Jul-28-11 08:06 PM   #56 
        - Conceal carry methods come in all forms...still self defense.  ileus   Jul-28-11 08:14 PM   #58 
  - Sent you a PM  RamboLiberal   Jul-28-11 04:20 PM   #51 
  - *Giggles at the people thrown into paroxysms by a simple question*  Union Scribe   Jul-28-11 06:14 PM   #53 
  - I know, I know. They just get sooo upset that others don't care about *their* likes and dislikes.  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-28-11 11:05 PM   #65 
     - really?  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:17 AM   #84 
  - Tommy's Gun Packs  rl6214   Jul-28-11 09:10 PM   #60 
  - Well, I think now we all know ...  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:27 AM   #74 
  - And my thanks to all of the adults who responded.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 02:31 AM   #75 
  - oh, 'fess up  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:27 AM   #88 
  - Next week US palm body armor...  ileus   Jul-29-11 10:13 AM   #80 
  - ah yes, the commercial endorsement  iverglas   Jul-29-11 10:25 AM   #87 
     - Huskies is probably a reference to the UConn Huskies  tammywammy   Jul-29-11 10:32 AM   #89 
        - The Lounge!  iverglas   Jul-29-11 12:04 PM   #90 
        - No, I didn't wander in from the Lounge  tammywammy   Jul-29-11 12:06 PM   #91 
        - I have to give you credit.  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-29-11 12:39 PM   #93 
           - I do read in here often.  tammywammy   Jul-29-11 12:47 PM   #94 
              - It brought out a few traits in the wowser types: 1. ANYTIME is a teachable moment for them.  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-29-11 01:18 PM   #96 
              - gosh, my stars, heavens to betsy, what a conundrum  iverglas   Jul-29-11 03:03 PM   #98 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jul-29-11 03:29 PM   #104 
              - You need to learn to let go.  Union Scribe   Jul-29-11 05:24 PM   #118 
              - snork  iverglas   Jul-29-11 05:27 PM   #120 
              - is this  gejohnston   Jul-29-11 10:48 PM   #156 
              - If it were just clothes and color, you never woulda played.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:48 PM   #157 
                 - eh?  iverglas   Jul-30-11 09:43 AM   #159 
                    - Still getting a 404  Kennah   Jul-30-11 08:08 PM   #182 
              - Must be karma paying me back for a past life sin  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:07 PM   #148 
        - I got a 404 when I clicked on iverglasisamodondu.com  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:46 PM   #155 
           - what did you get  iverglas   Jul-30-11 09:44 AM   #160 
              - I read the rules of both Guns and Outdoor Life before posting  Kennah   Jul-30-11 08:10 PM   #183 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-29-11 07:13 PM   #136 
        - please say "yea"  iverglas   Jul-29-11 07:32 PM   #139 
        - I meant the other one. The UW Huskies.  Kennah   Jul-29-11 10:31 PM   #154 
           - A surprisingly long thread  rrneck   Jul-30-11 11:32 AM   #166 
  - Wow, the crazies are out on this one.  jeepnstein   Aug-02-11 07:26 AM   #187 
 

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