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| -I just read that the Norway gunman attacked for 90 minutes... |
Cid_B |
Jul-23-11 01:23 PM |
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Charles Whitman |
NNN0LHI |
Jul-23-11 01:24 PM |
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Whitman had the advantage of higher ground. |
TheWraith |
Jul-23-11 02:06 PM |
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Even U. of Texas was "gun-free." And he killed the elevator guard. |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 02:50 PM |
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That Is Utter Bullshit. |
Paladin |
Jul-24-11 02:00 PM |
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I assume that because Norway has had so little terrorism/ violence, security has not been tight |
LeftishBrit |
Jul-23-11 01:24 PM |
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They sure have strong gun-control laws, for what that's worth. |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 02:51 PM |
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I'd say this incident shows EXACTLY what those are worth NT |
RSillsbee |
Jul-23-11 04:59 PM |
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do tell |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 06:23 PM |
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No, norway has all the little crapy gun control laws that the anti gun people like |
lawodevolution |
Jul-23-11 06:43 PM |
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Jul-23-11 09:43 PM |
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guess I'll have to start keeping copies of everything I post |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 12:54 PM |
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oh look! |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 02:50 PM |
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And Dave Codrea quoted me on the radio today . |
Katya Mullethov |
Jul-25-11 12:41 AM |
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Wow! What monumental hypocrisy! |
TPaine7 |
Jul-24-11 11:47 PM |
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and yet I was being so sincere |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 10:21 AM |
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No. False difference. In fact, bullshit strawman. |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 07:03 PM |
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ARRRRRRGH!!! |
RSillsbee |
Jul-23-11 07:18 PM |
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It was not an illegal machinegun |
Pigheaded |
Jul-26-11 09:24 PM |
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your source is off a bit. According to the UN, 52 percent of Finnish homes |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 07:32 PM |
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It is a huge difference. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jul-24-11 04:42 PM |
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since I've already replied to this |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 05:00 PM |
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I believe they were isolated somewhere at a lake. I can certainly |
juajen |
Jul-23-11 01:25 PM |
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Utoya is an island completely surrounded by water. |
aquart |
Jul-23-11 02:27 PM |
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Well, then, it's a very unique island, huh? |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 02:48 PM |
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As in "not close enough to the shore to have a bridge" |
Euromutt |
Jul-23-11 04:58 PM |
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"I can certainly see the improbability of help arriving in time. In most obscure camps...." |
AzWorker |
Jul-23-11 04:07 PM |
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or at our summer camps |
Enrique |
Jul-23-11 01:25 PM |
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Go Rub Some Oil On It, Sweeet-Heart |
The Magistrate |
Jul-23-11 01:25 PM |
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thank you. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-23-11 01:53 PM |
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Psst, you forgot to say "sir". |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-23-11 03:15 PM |
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My daughter's at camp. They turn in their cell phones when they arrive. |
riderinthestorm |
Jul-23-11 01:25 PM |
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Interesting that you thought of phones... |
Cid_B |
Jul-23-11 02:20 PM |
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Norway is not a litigious society |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-25-11 02:16 AM |
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They had their phones. |
aquart |
Jul-23-11 02:28 PM |
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and authorities asked parents NOT to call |
JackintheGreen |
Jul-23-11 02:36 PM |
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Now there's a message you never want to get. |
aquart |
Jul-23-11 03:11 PM |
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gunmEn? There were 2 or more? |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 03:12 PM |
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To clarify |
JackintheGreen |
Jul-23-11 04:23 PM |
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Ah, okay. The first report I heard, late this morning said one guy. |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 06:39 PM |
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I think there was such an incident in Los Angeles... |
physioex |
Jul-23-11 01:26 PM |
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North Hollywood shootout |
MicaelS |
Jul-23-11 03:52 PM |
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Jul-23-11 01:26 PM |
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Part of the reason that the Columbine incident lasted so long ... |
spin |
Jul-23-11 02:03 PM |
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It was an island. |
WinkyDink |
Jul-23-11 01:27 PM |
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Loughner is psychotic. All he knew about firearms was pull trigger, go boom. |
geckosfeet |
Jul-23-11 01:27 PM |
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Virginia Tech and Columbine lasted hours. |
Swede |
Jul-23-11 01:28 PM |
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Yes. OP is flat wrong. |
geckosfeet |
Jul-23-11 01:37 PM |
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In the US, most of the country is not a "no gun zone" so I'm sure you will be able to |
lawodevolution |
Jul-23-11 06:49 PM |
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Cloumbine for one. |
geckosfeet |
Jul-24-11 07:27 AM |
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No. Both lasted much less than an hour. |
TheWraith |
Jul-23-11 02:08 PM |
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In my defense... |
Cid_B |
Jul-23-11 02:12 PM |
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Columbine and VT, cops failed to engage as soon as they arrived |
AzWorker |
Jul-23-11 04:11 PM |
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New Life church was over in 10 minutes |
RSillsbee |
Jul-23-11 05:02 PM |
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Yup. One person with a legally concealed weapon can stop a massacre. |
spin |
Jul-23-11 06:28 PM |
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Jean Assam says was asked to leave the church. |
RSillsbee |
Jul-23-11 07:16 PM |
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If you noticed in my post I said ... |
spin |
Jul-23-11 07:36 PM |
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Sorry , that whole controversy just pissed me off |
RSillsbee |
Jul-24-11 01:10 AM |
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The media really didn't cover Jeanne Assam much after the initial incident ... |
spin |
Jul-24-11 10:22 AM |
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On the subject of open carry |
RSillsbee |
Jul-24-11 10:34 AM |
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First you must note that I live in a state where legal concealed carry is very common ... |
spin |
Jul-24-11 01:10 PM |
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One highly trained professional doing her job |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-25-11 02:28 AM |
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Not "highly trained" (in any objective sense) and not a professional. Very competent, though. |
benEzra |
Jul-26-11 06:10 PM |
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OK but obviously trained well enough. I assume you know her |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-26-11 06:50 PM |
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Know of her, and a bit about her. Have read about her background, training, |
benEzra |
Jul-26-11 09:00 PM |
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Agreed. |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-27-11 12:57 AM |
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I've had similar thoughts |
milwaukeelib33 |
Jul-23-11 01:28 PM |
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There are some people who think it's better for victims to be slaughtered like dogs than |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 02:18 PM |
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wtf? there WAS an armed defense. You think kids at camp should be armed? |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-11 06:12 PM |
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Well, I am certainly TRYING to be an example of something...that being |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 06:28 PM |
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In any shooting the victims are dead when the shooter is stopped. Duh. |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-11 06:39 PM |
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I stopped the attempted murder of one of my gay friends with my gun years ago |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 06:43 PM |
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Ah, so you are a REAL TRVE DEMOCRAT and we are "namby-pamby anti-constitutionalist assholes who care |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-11 06:59 PM |
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Jul-23-11 09:56 PM |
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you certainly are indeed! |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 09:48 PM |
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You need to calm down and drink a nice cup of tea |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-25-11 02:45 AM |
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My summer camp was armed |
Atypical Liberal |
Jul-27-11 09:56 AM |
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schools of thought ... people ... |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 09:46 PM |
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To claim that anyone thinks that without attribution is beyond sick |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-25-11 02:42 AM |
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and the fact |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 10:29 AM |
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Come to camp and bring your Glock? |
aquart |
Jul-23-11 02:32 PM |
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Jul-23-11 02:35 PM |
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Stand back a moment and be reasonable... |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 02:58 PM |
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You just inspired me not to buy one, a Glock. They are so...cliche so |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 04:14 PM |
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It wasn't a summer camp-type camp; more like a YDA convention |
Euromutt |
Jul-24-11 06:45 AM |
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and then of course there are the ... what are they called? ... |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 11:54 AM |
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I give up |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 05:27 PM |
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"Most normal parents in this world really do not want the adults in charge of their children..armed" |
AzWorker |
Jul-23-11 07:24 PM |
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The grieving parents don't count... |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 07:45 PM |
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no, only Master Paine counts |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:03 PM |
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Armed adults and living children or unarmed adults and dead children... |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 11:07 PM |
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well, here's the thing |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 11:36 PM |
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Sigh |
TPaine7 |
Jul-24-11 02:26 AM |
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Jul-24-11 10:31 AM |
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nope, sorry, not wearing this |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 11:59 AM |
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Jul-24-11 05:06 PM |
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Well, look what we have here. |
beevul |
Jul-25-11 06:25 AM |
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yeah, yeah |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:01 PM |
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How many of those Labour Party activists or |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 10:44 PM |
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nah |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:55 PM |
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so if we had your party discipline |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 11:42 PM |
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that was an acknowledgement that your statement was false? |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 11:53 PM |
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not exactly |
gejohnston |
Jul-24-11 12:33 AM |
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oh sigh (edited) |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 10:54 AM |
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still not exactly |
gejohnston |
Jul-24-11 01:37 PM |
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You have a good point. It would have been irrational for the adults to think |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 07:38 PM |
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I give up |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:08 PM |
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Many US Democrats, including this poster, prefer a society that doesn't ban concealed carry. |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 10:18 PM |
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you seem to have missed the post you replied to |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:20 PM |
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Fail indeed. |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 10:46 PM |
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The only armed camp I know of is Camp Jedel in the Catskills - JDL outfit |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-25-11 03:26 AM |
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snork |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 10:27 AM |
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There was a time when most "normal" parents thought lots of strange and wrong things. |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 08:03 PM |
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"normal" in my sentence |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:08 PM |
#126 |
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both are value judgements and have no empirical value. |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 10:47 PM |
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your point? |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:57 PM |
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Some of the worst public policy have been based on "decent and rational" |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 11:16 PM |
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Jul-23-11 11:41 PM |
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I see |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 11:23 AM |
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no the issue was use of normal and decent |
gejohnston |
Jul-24-11 01:41 PM |
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no |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 01:45 PM |
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so as I was saying ... |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 01:43 PM |
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Yes you are |
gejohnston |
Jul-24-11 02:02 PM |
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no, you were not |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 02:43 PM |
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Sigh... |
Cid_B |
Jul-24-11 08:57 AM |
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I will resist |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 11:38 AM |
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My camp experiences..... |
Cid_B |
Jul-24-11 01:15 PM |
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now try reading the post I was initially replying to |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 01:35 PM |
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Jul-24-11 01:49 PM |
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Unseemly. |
demmiblue |
Jul-23-11 01:31 PM |
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I don't think you thought about it very hard. |
Maru Kitteh |
Jul-23-11 01:31 PM |
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This was Norway. |
PavePusher |
Jul-23-11 01:52 PM |
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Try to follow along. |
Maru Kitteh |
Jul-23-11 05:37 PM |
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I never heard of gun-porn...what is it? |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 02:16 PM |
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Term used by many gun-control/banners here. Good question... |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 03:04 PM |
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Jul-23-11 03:10 PM |
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There are other interpretations as well... |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 03:31 PM |
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That's 'cause I haven't posted my picture here yet.... |
PavePusher |
Jul-23-11 04:26 PM |
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It's so sad because this mass murder stuff has gone celebrity... |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 04:40 PM |
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I really think we need to have a law.... |
PavePusher |
Jul-23-11 04:50 PM |
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Well, not a law. But I see your point. It would be nice if MSM were responsible. |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 05:07 PM |
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I've remarked before on this forum about the relationship between mass murderers and 24-hour news |
Euromutt |
Jul-23-11 05:16 PM |
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Sorry ....but |
Katya Mullethov |
Jul-23-11 07:06 PM |
#107 |
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"I have yet to see 'gun porn' attached to an attractive man using a gun." |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 05:31 PM |
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I have a different theory |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 06:35 PM |
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Lots or women find violent aggressive men very appealing, images or not. |
TPaine7 |
Jul-23-11 08:08 PM |
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here ya go |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:14 PM |
#127 |
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no takers? |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 11:59 PM |
#145 |
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No takers on what, dear? |
X_Digger |
Jul-24-11 12:15 AM |
#148 |
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Mr Gill fits this profile also |
gejohnston |
Jul-24-11 12:05 AM |
#147 |
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interesting source |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 02:36 PM |
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Anders Behring Breivik: profile of a mass murderer |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 02:57 PM |
#180 |
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Urban Dictionary says |
Starboard Tack |
Jul-25-11 03:49 AM |
#192 |
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there now |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 10:30 AM |
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At a youth camp, on an island, by someone in police uniform?? |
cbdo2007 |
Jul-23-11 01:31 PM |
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Loughner was stopped by unarmed persons. |
louis-t |
Jul-23-11 01:31 PM |
#15 |
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Yes, I know... |
Cid_B |
Jul-23-11 02:17 PM |
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Jul-23-11 02:23 PM |
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One armed peson was in a store and ran toward the scene... |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 03:07 PM |
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Does Norway have the death penalty? nt |
donco |
Jul-23-11 01:36 PM |
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No, and the maximum prison sentence is 21 years |
Euromutt |
Jul-23-11 04:55 PM |
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No, not since 1905 apparently. |
PoliticAverse |
Jul-23-11 05:08 PM |
#76 |
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When seconds count, the police are only |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 01:44 PM |
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I saw that on a bumper sticker the other day, right next to some Republican ones. |
Tesha |
Jul-23-11 06:06 PM |
#85 |
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Very clever, implying that I'm secretly a Republican. |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 06:49 PM |
#103 |
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I would never imply you are a Republican; that is against the DU rules. |
Tesha |
Jul-23-11 07:37 PM |
#113 |
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Not always a money issue |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 11:06 PM |
#137 |
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Do you oppose the Patriot Act? N/T |
Marengo |
Jul-24-11 09:54 AM |
#157 |
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I'm glad that your fellow citizens have decided to do that. However: |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jul-24-11 05:59 PM |
#184 |
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It ain't Republicans saying it in Detroit and other cities |
Union Scribe |
Jul-27-11 01:44 PM |
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How about at youth camps, Girl Scout Camps, etc. ? Thoughts? |
AlinPA |
Jul-23-11 01:45 PM |
#19 |
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I'm thinking of the camps from my scouting days... |
Cid_B |
Jul-23-11 02:15 PM |
#31 |
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Increasingly, "youth camps" include training in firearms. nt |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 03:14 PM |
#55 |
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I got my marksmanship badge at a boy scout camp.. |
X_Digger |
Jul-23-11 05:31 PM |
#80 |
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Yeah. So did I. But nobody at camp could have dealt with a mass murderer |
Kolesar |
Jul-23-11 06:19 PM |
#89 |
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My scout master always carried on our events. |
X_Digger |
Jul-23-11 10:41 PM |
#131 |
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I meant to ask this too |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 10:36 AM |
#205 |
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Ahh, a wonderful 'what if' |
X_Digger |
Jul-27-11 10:54 AM |
#206 |
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yes, because skilled shooters with semi-automatic rifles |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 10:57 AM |
#207 |
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Rather than 73? Absolutely. |
X_Digger |
Jul-27-11 11:01 AM |
#208 |
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yes, we know |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 11:28 AM |
#209 |
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Nice bob and weave.. |
X_Digger |
Jul-27-11 11:51 AM |
#210 |
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oh my |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 01:43 PM |
#211 |
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So which were you-- WCTU or ASL? |
X_Digger |
Jul-27-11 02:29 PM |
#213 |
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I don't suggest that your Prohibition was a success |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 03:01 PM |
#214 |
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Nit-picking words, again? |
X_Digger |
Jul-27-11 03:13 PM |
#215 |
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yeah, big man? |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 03:20 PM |
#216 |
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Prohibition of a very popular item? Yah.. no relation. |
X_Digger |
Jul-27-11 03:27 PM |
#217 |
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"We didn't camp in a Hollywood movie"? |
Euromutt |
Jul-24-11 07:16 AM |
#154 |
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Well, according to some schools of thought, it's a good thing none of the victims were armed |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 01:47 PM |
#20 |
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name those schools of thought |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 05:33 PM |
#81 |
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"name those schools of thought" |
AzWorker |
Jul-23-11 05:41 PM |
#83 |
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"'Stupid U' has been giving out degrees to anti-rights activists for decades." |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 06:12 PM |
#86 |
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Why would Azworker have an anti-rights degree? He's obviously Pro-rights. |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 06:35 PM |
#96 |
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oh dear, is that the only kind of degree that 'Stupid U' gives out? |
iverglas |
Jul-23-11 10:18 PM |
#128 |
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Gerard Stampfield Kindergarten is one |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 06:23 PM |
#91 |
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I'd like to see any proof of that beyond your mind |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-11 06:15 PM |
#88 |
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Simple...just read the posts. |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 06:30 PM |
#94 |
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point me to one. It's not that complicated. If you assert it, you prove it. |
uppityperson |
Jul-23-11 06:37 PM |
#97 |
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That would technically be a call out, and against DU rules. |
X_Digger |
Jul-23-11 11:31 PM |
#140 |
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oh, come on |
iverglas |
Jul-24-11 12:00 AM |
#146 |
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Having trouble reading two posts up? |
X_Digger |
Jul-24-11 12:20 AM |
#149 |
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On an island accessible only by boat with no on-site security |
jpak |
Jul-23-11 01:54 PM |
#23 |
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So do you have any ideas about how to solve the "problem"? |
bellcrank |
Jul-23-11 02:15 PM |
#30 |
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Take a deep breath... step away from the keyboard... |
Cid_B |
Jul-23-11 02:22 PM |
#37 |
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Yup. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Jul-23-11 02:30 PM |
#42 |
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"Gun-free" zone? I agree. |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 03:17 PM |
#58 |
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Actually, a gun-free zone. Bet the attacker knew it, too. nt |
SteveM |
Jul-23-11 03:16 PM |
#57 |
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I forgot to ask |
iverglas |
Jul-27-11 10:34 AM |
#204 |
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Not even the same |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 05:58 PM |
#84 |
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(Your vote: -1) |
Kolesar |
Jul-23-11 01:56 PM |
#24 |
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Do you assume everything, everywhere, is the same? |
Schema Thing |
Jul-23-11 02:04 PM |
#26 |
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No... do you? |
Cid_B |
Jul-23-11 02:24 PM |
#39 |
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Insult other DUers |
Kolesar |
Jul-23-11 03:35 PM |
#60 |
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Loughner did not run out, his gun jammed. Other than that, you are right nt |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 04:19 PM |
#65 |
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If loughner kept shooting and was able to avoid being stopped there would have |
lawodevolution |
Jul-23-11 06:58 PM |
#104 |
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AGP... |
xocet |
Jul-23-11 02:18 PM |
#35 |
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Fascist Bible bangers are evil. Those are my only thoughts right now. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-23-11 02:27 PM |
#40 |
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true, but I expand that to all fascist (fill in the blank) bangers nt |
gejohnston |
Jul-23-11 04:20 PM |
#66 |
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True. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jul-23-11 09:18 PM |
#118 |
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