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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:32 PM
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27. Almost 300,000,000 Americans don't carry, see no need to. I think if we put it to a direct vote

the results would be different from what we have now which is just a bunch of right wing legislation designed to keep TBaggers, those who live with gun caches, those who aspire to live in compounds . . . . . . Happy. Well, those aren't the average citizen as the numbers show.

We need to change opinions, just like what was done with cigarettes. Show photos/videos of folks drooling over tactical weapons; strapping weapons to their bodies in irrational fear of other citizens; folks dealing in guns without background checks; folks with a hoard/cache of weapons they could use against other citizens in a disaster or otherwise; folks (including yahoos) blasting away at silhouette targets; and much more.

That would go a long way to convincing the public that a bunch of "cowboys" in our parks, restaurants, churches, bars, etc,, is not in our best interest. Personally, I don't care what the gun obsessed do with them in their own home, but when they start polluting society and promoting more and more guns -- that's different. Countries like Switzerland, Denmark, etc., have it right -- you can own em if you must, but very few can carry them in public.

Same thing happened with smoking. We need to go after gun manufacturers, people who promote guns, folks who are obsessed with the things, folks who pollute society strapping them to their bodies, etc. It's little different from someone walking around with a bomb or spear gun.

This gun culture BS has run it's course now that we are in the 21st Century. It'll be a tough fight, but one worthwhile in the long-run.
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  -Arizona Senator Lori Klein - Proud Gun Owner mikeb302000  Jul-18-11 12:06 AM   #0 
  - When I was a kid  lapfog_1   Jul-18-11 12:29 AM   #1 
  - yeah, you and every other kid  mikeb302000   Jul-18-11 05:32 AM   #5 
  - Unrec for shameless blog linking  pipoman   Jul-18-11 12:32 AM   #2 
  - why is that shameless?  mikeb302000   Jul-18-11 05:33 AM   #6 
     - I've been around here a while  pipoman   Jul-18-11 09:42 AM   #15 
  - First, I really don't read op eds because they  gejohnston   Jul-18-11 12:56 AM   #3 
  - I agree with you about op-eds  mikeb302000   Jul-18-11 05:42 AM   #7 
     - not intended to be insults  gejohnston   Jul-18-11 08:20 AM   #13 
        - Cash fuels the violence  Katya Mullethov   Jul-18-11 09:54 AM   #18 
        - the war on drugs is part of the problem  mikeb302000   Jul-19-11 06:09 AM   #55 
           - "gun availability exacerbates it."  eqfan592   Jul-19-11 02:34 PM   #67 
           - Problems here...  SteveM   Jul-19-11 03:07 PM   #68 
  - I wouldn't confiscate cars from someone who got a speeding ticket or ran a red light  slackmaster   Jul-18-11 04:37 AM   #4 
  - first of all, we're talking about guns not cars  mikeb302000   Jul-18-11 05:44 AM   #8 
     - It was a fair analogy.  eqfan592   Jul-18-11 08:54 AM   #14 
     - A general principle in criminal justice says punishment should be proportional to actual harm done  slackmaster   Jul-18-11 09:47 AM   #16 
     - We already have laws that address for misuse of of guns - felonies that prohibit gun ownership.  aikoaiko   Jul-20-11 06:07 PM   #79 
  - You might want to try comprehending the economics of contraband  Euromutt   Jul-18-11 05:55 AM   #9 
  - I'm talking about Newark and New Orleans  mikeb302000   Jul-19-11 06:11 AM   #56 
     - I'll repeat the sentence you evidently skipped  Euromutt   Jul-19-11 01:49 PM   #66 
  - LCP's kill people...  ileus   Jul-18-11 07:27 AM   #10 
  - No No....that's LCP's point at people. They kill coyotes.  ileus   Jul-18-11 07:42 AM   #11 
  - That "cavalier attitude" about guns is the biggest problem. That needs to change.  Hoyt   Jul-18-11 08:10 AM   #12 
  - The technical ignorance about guns...  Blown330   Jul-18-11 09:50 AM   #17 
     - "Technical Ignorance" -- who cares what the difference is between a clip and magazine.  Hoyt   Jul-18-11 10:06 AM   #19 
        - I care when it is a person proposing legislation to ban something...  eqfan592   Jul-18-11 10:21 AM   #21 
        - We?  Blown330   Jul-18-11 10:24 AM   #22 
        - Of course we want people walking around armed - don't be silly!  DonP   Jul-18-11 10:38 AM   #23 
        - I and a lot of gun owner do want,  MicaelS   Jul-18-11 10:55 AM   #24 
        - Oh look!  rrneck   Jul-18-11 12:30 PM   #26 
        - Almost 300,000,000 Americans don't carry, see no need to. I think if we put it to a direct vote  Hoyt   Jul-18-11 12:32 PM   #27 
        - Since you put it that way...that is scary.  ileus   Jul-18-11 12:59 PM   #29 
        - Absolutely!  rrneck   Jul-18-11 01:10 PM   #30 
        - You responded to your own post again.  rrneck   Jul-18-11 01:13 PM   #32 
        - He's his own sock puppet....  PavePusher   Jul-18-11 01:18 PM   #34 
        - Gah!  rrneck   Jul-18-11 01:45 PM   #35 
        - No, I tried making one response to four gunners posting the same BS.  Hoyt   Jul-18-11 02:06 PM   #36 
           - Pot, meet kettle. Nt  eqfan592   Jul-18-11 02:29 PM   #38 
           - Sorry, man, I walk out of my house every day without even thinking about needing a gun to make it  Hoyt   Jul-18-11 02:41 PM   #39 
              - Good for you and them....  eqfan592   Jul-18-11 02:54 PM   #40 
              - A majority, of people who voted, put Regean and Bush 1 & 2 into office.  PavePusher   Jul-18-11 04:26 PM   #42 
                 - I bet the NRA and its members would mess themselves if it were put on the 2012 ballot.  Hoyt   Jul-18-11 05:29 PM   #45 
                    - LOL, yeah, I'm sure they would.  eqfan592   Jul-18-11 08:15 PM   #50 
                       - Hey, it worked for Nixon, didn't it? Oh wait - never mind.  DonP   Jul-18-11 10:22 PM   #53 
              - On the other hand...  Euromutt   Jul-18-11 05:31 PM   #46 
                 - Ironic you mention Gen Jack D Ripper, a paranoid/delusional character who believes guns/bombs  Hoyt   Jul-18-11 06:51 PM   #48 
                    - lol, not really ironic.  eqfan592   Jul-18-11 08:17 PM   #51 
                    - I think the word you want is "alanic"  Euromutt   Jul-19-11 01:25 AM   #54 
           - Next time  rrneck   Jul-18-11 03:05 PM   #41 
           - You just don't like strap on guns...  ileus   Jul-19-11 03:23 PM   #72 
        - There's one thing missing from your plan of action  Euromutt   Jul-18-11 02:26 PM   #37 
        - "Tacky!" n/t  PavePusher   Jul-18-11 04:27 PM   #43 
        - 1% of the population doesn't drive legislation, no matter what you claim.  ileus   Jul-18-11 05:37 PM   #47 
        - "Same thing happened with smoking." I don't smoke my guns.  SteveM   Jul-19-11 03:16 PM   #70 
        - Honest citizens with CHP's or OCer's yes..criminals no...  ileus   Jul-18-11 12:58 PM   #28 
        - If you seek to ban something, you better know what the diff is...  SteveM   Jul-19-11 03:13 PM   #69 
  - Nice.  rrneck   Jul-18-11 10:18 AM   #20 
  - that's exactly the right question  mikeb302000   Jul-19-11 06:18 AM   #57 
     - Setting policy by news frequency?  X_Digger   Jul-19-11 09:05 AM   #63 
     - "The news doesn't lie".  rrneck   Jul-19-11 09:23 AM   #64 
     - Diane Sawyer recently pronounced....  PavePusher   Jul-19-11 12:25 PM   #65 
  - I think it sounds like shit, just most of your posts  MicaelS   Jul-18-11 10:57 AM   #25 
  - wrong  mikeb302000   Jul-19-11 06:21 AM   #58 
  - He's just using DU to drive traffic by copying and pasting his shit here.  Union Scribe   Jul-19-11 07:41 AM   #60 
  - Law-abiding gun owners.  Atypical Liberal   Jul-18-11 01:10 PM   #31 
  - well, sort of  mikeb302000   Jul-19-11 06:25 AM   #59 
     - A law-abiding career criminal???  Atypical Liberal   Jul-19-11 08:15 AM   #61 
     - What idiocy!  one-eyed fat man   Jul-22-11 06:40 PM   #80 
     - Many years ago, I would have paid handsomely for a bit of whatever you're smoking.  bellcrank   Jul-22-11 07:07 PM   #82 
  - "How does that sound?"  PavePusher   Jul-18-11 01:15 PM   #33 
  - Ruelas  gravity556   Jul-18-11 05:15 PM   #44 
  - well you'd lose that bet  mikeb302000   Jul-20-11 02:11 AM   #74 
  - As Yoda would say, "This is why you fail."  benEzra   Jul-18-11 06:55 PM   #49 
  - Great point.  Atypical Liberal   Jul-19-11 08:21 AM   #62 
  - actually what I say is  mikeb302000   Jul-20-11 02:16 AM   #75 
  - Indeed. His sentence reveals what this is about: Culture war.  SteveM   Jul-19-11 03:20 PM   #71 
     - They wanted culture war, they started culture war, they fought culture war with a will...  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-19-11 09:45 PM   #73 
        - That's the thing I find so puzzling about the so-called Defense of Marriage Act...  SteveM   Jul-20-11 03:45 PM   #78 
  - unrec -- blogspam n/t  X_Digger   Jul-18-11 09:28 PM   #52 
     - what does that mean?  mikeb302000   Jul-20-11 02:19 AM   #76 
        - Flog your blog elsewhere.  X_Digger   Jul-20-11 08:21 AM   #77 
        - If only cops, crooks and republicans are allowed to have guns,  bellcrank   Jul-22-11 07:04 PM   #81 

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