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57. LOL. The OP is from the hysterical blog "ammoland." And from the link I gave, you can access
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  -United Nations Push for Gun Control Treaty Continues Hoopla Phil  Jul-15-11 05:40 PM   #0 
  - It's a shame...  Ragnarok   Jul-15-11 05:54 PM   #1 
  - Treaties have to be ratified by 2/3 of the United States Senate  slackmaster   Jul-15-11 06:32 PM   #2 
  - Yep (or is that yup?). I don't see the ATT being ratified. What I found  Hoopla Phil   Jul-15-11 07:59 PM   #4 
     - Yeah, shades of the Ol' South.  SteveM   Jul-19-11 02:17 PM   #68 
  - Ahahaaaa....... and a rout it might be !  Katya Mullethov   Jul-15-11 07:30 PM   #3 
  - LOL, Yeah, don't you know that there is no difference between a "hunting rifle"  Hoopla Phil   Jul-15-11 08:00 PM   #5 
  - "Sporting Arms" exemption? Like a "make my day" .44 magnum revolver?  SteveM   Jul-19-11 02:19 PM   #69 
     - A .44 magnum revolver is an excellent handgun for hunting game ...  spin   Jul-19-11 03:20 PM   #71 
        - I'm a little old for it, but folks who do use them seem quite serious...  SteveM   Jul-19-11 03:47 PM   #73 
  - Seems to be a bunch of unrec'ers out there who actually want the Civil War this would kick off. n/t  PavePusher   Jul-15-11 08:12 PM   #6 
  - I'd have like it if the articles had external links  Euromutt   Jul-15-11 08:48 PM   #7 
  - Some more information. Gun manufacturer's would be taxed to fund "Victim Assistance"  Hoopla Phil   Jul-15-11 08:59 PM   #8 
  - I have a counter-proposal  Euromutt   Jul-15-11 11:47 PM   #10 
  - How about making criminals pay for the damage they do?  PavePusher   Jul-16-11 08:09 PM   #23 
  - I doubt it would be ratifyed by the Senate  Philippine expat   Jul-15-11 09:17 PM   #9 
  - Right wingers have opposed the UN for years - Can't stand the thought of the US having to cooperate.  Hoyt   Jul-16-11 02:02 PM   #14 
     - Cooperate? Not a problem.  eqfan592   Jul-16-11 08:22 PM   #27 
        - Sounds to me like he is willing to give up our national sovereignty  oneshooter   Jul-16-11 08:40 PM   #30 
        - Precisely.  SteveM   Jul-19-11 02:22 PM   #70 
  - I suppose it's unsurprising international arms merchants would oppose the Arms Trade Treaty  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 12:36 AM   #11 
  - Who are the international arms merchants you refer to?  Hoopla Phil   Jul-16-11 01:04 PM   #13 
  - Gallery of international arms dealers  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 07:39 PM   #15 
  - Global transfers of major conventional weapons sorted by supplier (exporter), 2010  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 07:39 PM   #16 
  - Arms Transfers: States Love Secrets, But We Want the Facts  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 07:41 PM   #17 
  - Why we need a global Arms Trade Treaty  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 07:42 PM   #18 
  - Wait a second??  one-eyed fat man   Jul-16-11 07:54 PM   #22 
     - You will limit your understanding, if you demand the world be reducible to such soundbites  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 08:16 PM   #24 
        - you know the cliche about pots and kettles?  gejohnston   Jul-19-11 06:00 PM   #74 
  - UN initiates arms trade agreement (BBC 2006)  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 07:47 PM   #19 
  - The decades-long battle to catch an international arms broker (New Yorker 2010)  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 07:49 PM   #20 
  - The Stoner Arms Dealers: How Two American Kids Became Big-Time Weapons Traders  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 07:51 PM   #21 
     - spam much? nt  eqfan592   Jul-16-11 08:17 PM   #25 
        - #13 asked "Who are the international arms merchants?" #21 provides an example, as do  struggle4progress   Jul-16-11 08:22 PM   #28 
           - You could have easily compiled all of this into a single post.  eqfan592   Jul-16-11 08:24 PM   #29 
           - You for some reason seem to have been under the mistaken belief that the NRA  Hoopla Phil   Jul-16-11 08:50 PM   #32 
           - NRA Gets Millions From Gun Industry  struggle4progress   Jul-17-11 12:02 AM   #35 
              - Wait, you are equating a  gejohnston   Jul-17-11 12:18 AM   #36 
              - LOL. The OP is from the hysterical blog "ammoland." And from the link I gave, you can access  struggle4progress   Jul-17-11 07:21 PM   #57 
                 - a report cranked out by the very hysterical and intellectually dishonest VPC.  gejohnston   Jul-17-11 09:42 PM   #59 
                 - In discussing an NRA award, an accurate footnote about the man for whom the award is named, does not  struggle4progress   Jul-18-11 03:31 PM   #63 
                    - Since virtually everything else the VPC is intellectually dishonest  gejohnston   Jul-19-11 06:13 PM   #75 
                       - From his NYT obit:  struggle4progress   Jul-19-11 06:54 PM   #77 
                          - Difference version of the story.  gejohnston   Jul-19-11 07:15 PM   #79 
                             - Here's the footnote from the report: "... as a teenager, Carter was convicted of a shotgun murder.  struggle4progress   Jul-19-11 09:48 PM   #80 
                                - Kind of  gejohnston   Jul-19-11 10:49 PM   #81 
                 - Again, are you actually going to claim that the information provided in the OP is incorrect  Hoopla Phil   Jul-18-11 04:35 PM   #65 
                 - The ATF "Fast and Furious" scandal has hurt what chances that this treaty ...  spin   Jul-19-11 03:35 PM   #72 
              - Do the NRA's "corporate partners" include Norinco, Izhmash and Zastava  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 12:58 AM   #38 
              - *That's* the glaring problem with s4p's thesis- lack of evidence  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-17-11 01:20 PM   #49 
                 - So you couldn't be bothered to look at the pdf report from the link  struggle4progress   Jul-17-11 02:58 PM   #50 
                    - See post 36, not repeating myself except to say  gejohnston   Jul-17-11 03:25 PM   #52 
                    - I read it, and I see nothing that contradicts an essential point  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 04:12 PM   #54 
              - The O.P. is how the NRA and GOA is fighting against, and bringing to light  Hoopla Phil   Jul-17-11 12:07 PM   #47 
              - one minor point...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-17-11 01:10 PM   #48 
              - Hooie. The OP reflects fear-mongering nonsense, pushed by the gun industry, in an effort  struggle4progress   Jul-17-11 03:02 PM   #51 
                 - Are you actually going to claim that the information provided in the OP is incorrect  Hoopla Phil   Jul-17-11 04:40 PM   #55 
                 - The article follows the wacko views of John Bolton, who is quoted. Bolton opposes  struggle4progress   Jul-19-11 01:57 AM   #66 
                    - The article, had you read it, is from people that were ATTENDING the preliminary  Hoopla Phil   Jul-19-11 08:53 AM   #67 
                       - Bolton is quoted in the article. He's been a real hit with the NRA gang in recent years,  struggle4progress   Jul-19-11 06:48 PM   #76 
                          - I could say the same for anyone who claims that corporate profits are the motive  gejohnston   Jul-19-11 06:57 PM   #78 
                          - Bolton is NOT quoted in the article. Bolton has previously said  Hoopla Phil   Jul-22-11 10:28 PM   #83 
                             - Well, let's be precise  Euromutt   Jul-22-11 11:15 PM   #84 
                 - Yep, gotta protect that lucrative international market for semi-auto-only AR-15s!  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 04:51 PM   #56 
              - And... What does the NRA exactly do with that money?  Glassunion   Jul-18-11 04:28 PM   #64 
           - And what do *any* of those people and organizations have to do with the NRA?  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 04:42 AM   #41 
  - It seems, from your cites, that the majority of the "arms deals" being made...  PavePusher   Jul-16-11 08:19 PM   #26 
  - "How do you link the NRA to any of that?" And that was the intent of my question.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-16-11 08:52 PM   #33 
     - How unusual for him... n/t  PavePusher   Jul-16-11 11:47 PM   #34 
  - Oh I get it now. You think the NRA represents these organizations and not individuals in the U.S.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-16-11 08:48 PM   #31 
  - That's what the treaty is *supposed* to be about, yes  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 01:34 AM   #39 
  - Too bad for them that UN Treaties to not usurp State laws.  Cool Logic   Jul-16-11 11:16 AM   #12 
  - Treaties can USURP state law.  happyslug   Jul-17-11 12:45 AM   #37 
     - I think Cool Logic meant "state" in the sense of "national government"  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 03:28 AM   #40 
     - Logical deduction:  Cool Logic   Jul-17-11 08:52 AM   #43 
     - It appears...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-17-11 10:15 AM   #46 
  - I believe the US citizens  pipoman   Jul-17-11 07:19 AM   #42 
  - The NRA pushes back.  DWC   Jul-17-11 09:32 AM   #44 
  - Here in the US...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-17-11 10:01 AM   #45 
  - I seriously don't picture many countries signing this other than  gejohnston   Jul-17-11 03:35 PM   #53 
  - correction  gejohnston   Jul-17-11 10:18 PM   #60 
     - You're on the right track  Euromutt   Jul-18-11 06:12 AM   #61 
        - I doubt Venezuela- they produce fully-automatic AKs under license  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-18-11 01:21 PM   #62 
           - You're right; let me re-think that one  Euromutt   Jul-20-11 03:29 AM   #82 
  - Guns don't kill people  Remmah2   Jul-17-11 09:20 PM   #58 
 

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