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MyrnaLoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. what work?
proving people with concealed weapon permits killed people? Thanks for reinforcing that for me.
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  -19 mass shooting committed by CWP holders MyrnaLoy  Jul-13-11 05:18 PM   #0 
  - Your headline seems to be inaccurate...  GKirk   Jul-13-11 05:22 PM   #1 
  - Click on the  billh58   Jul-13-11 05:31 PM   #4 
  - I edited  MyrnaLoy   Jul-13-11 05:33 PM   #5 
  - I hit rec by accident. Sorry.  cliffordu   Jul-13-11 05:25 PM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-13-11 05:28 PM   #3 
  - do you  MyrnaLoy   Jul-13-11 05:35 PM   #7 
  - Nope. I unrec and speak my piece. Just like I did.  cliffordu   Jul-13-11 08:24 PM   #30 
  - No worries I unrecc'd it for you  RSillsbee   Jul-13-11 09:02 PM   #37 
  - I thank you. If you ever need the favor returned, let me know.  cliffordu   Jul-13-11 10:19 PM   #54 
  - How many CWP holders need a friggin gun in public? Very few.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:05 PM   #38 
     - How many people need a seatbelt in a car? Very few. How many need a fire extinguisher at home?  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 09:30 PM   #47 
     - Seatbelts, fire ex, etc., don't shoot people -- by intention or mistake.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:54 PM   #52 
        - Do guns leap out of drawers and fire themselves?  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 10:25 PM   #56 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-13-11 10:32 PM   #58 
        - Sorry, man, we aren't talking about exterminating roaches here. Besides gun pollute society.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 11:07 PM   #61 
           - They also save lives. My wife is alive because she carried her gun.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-13-11 11:46 PM   #65 
        - No, but they can kill in other ways.  eqfan592   Jul-13-11 10:43 PM   #59 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-13-11 11:08 PM   #62 
              - lol, nice, hoyt.  eqfan592   Jul-14-11 12:02 AM   #66 
     - You are correct but, until you can pick WHICH few  RSillsbee   Jul-14-11 01:30 PM   #78 
  - So, the case of a woman being hit by a negligent discharge is now a "mass shooting"?  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 05:34 PM   #6 
  - you may  MyrnaLoy   Jul-13-11 05:35 PM   #9 
  - Maybe you should re-read your own post. Very first line?  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 09:25 PM   #45 
  - "Negligent Discharge" -- now that's quaint. It's some jerk with a gun and lead for brains. Result  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:08 PM   #39 
     - Bonus points for literally getting all your statements wrong.  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 09:25 PM   #44 
        - OK, she could have been killed. Should have said Mother scared shitless. Doesn't change anythingelse  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:51 PM   #50 
           - Okay, so what's your solution?  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 10:27 PM   #57 
  - But..CCW holders are law abiding citizens....at least that is what they tell us  AnOhioan   Jul-13-11 05:35 PM   #8 
  - We are more law abiding that the general public.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-13-11 05:51 PM   #13 
     - felons can't get concealed weapons permits.  provis99   Jul-13-11 07:25 PM   #20 
     - Still, you would agree that CWP holders present no especial danger to the public...  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-13-11 07:54 PM   #27 
     - So then why should you deny CCWs to the non-felon public? N/T  GreenStormCloud   Jul-13-11 08:49 PM   #34 
     - But no more law abiding than 225 million who could get a permit, but choose not to do so.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:09 PM   #40 
        - Proof please. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Jul-15-11 03:09 PM   #89 
  - OP speaks for itself.  applegrove   Jul-13-11 05:39 PM   #10 
  - Jared Lee Loughner did NOT have an Arizona CCW.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-13-11 05:46 PM   #11 
  - that's disingenous. He didn't need a CCW to carry a gun.  provis99   Jul-13-11 07:27 PM   #22 
     - If he wanted reciprocity he needed a permit.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-13-11 08:46 PM   #33 
     - Ok that means there's 6,595,777 non-offenders in Arizona. 6,595,77 : 1 Not a bad ratio  ileus   Jul-13-11 08:50 PM   #35 
     - News flash: Criminals don't do the paperwork to carry guns!!  PavePusher   Jul-17-11 09:39 AM   #121 
     - It's about the lies; the Brady Bunch types can't keep from lying  DissedByBush   Jul-17-11 09:55 PM   #132 
  - Almost two million ccw's in Florida alone.  rrneck   Jul-13-11 05:49 PM   #12 
  - One of the instances deals with Jared Lee Loughner and the Arizona shooting ...  spin   Jul-13-11 05:58 PM   #14 
  - It should be noted the VPC defines "mass shooting" as 3 dead, including the perp  Euromutt   Jul-13-11 06:03 PM   #15 
  - Correction: the criterium is 3 dead, *not* including the perp (my mistake)  Euromutt   Jul-13-11 10:00 PM   #53 
  - And legislators are so impressed by these VPC reports that they are doing nothing about it  DonP   Jul-13-11 06:14 PM   #16 
  - Here is a question or two  gejohnston   Jul-13-11 06:29 PM   #17 
  - The plural of "anecdote" is not "data." (n/t)  LAGC   Jul-13-11 06:50 PM   #18 
  - as the OP mentioned, that data is unavailable, because it is being hidden.  provis99   Jul-13-11 07:25 PM   #21 
     - The OP may frequently mention it, but it doesn't mean the claim is true  petronius   Jul-13-11 08:08 PM   #29 
        - ^this  just55650   Jul-15-11 01:04 AM   #84 
  - What makes you think that police are not checking on this when they arrest people for gun crimes or  aikoaiko   Jul-13-11 06:55 PM   #19 
  - What type of "detailed information" would be required by you? n/t  oneshooter   Jul-13-11 07:28 PM   #23 
  - Still calling bullshit  one-eyed fat man   Jul-13-11 07:28 PM   #24 
  - hehe  AzWorker   Jul-13-11 07:34 PM   #25 
     - Bet you are wrong.  one-eyed fat man   Jul-13-11 07:58 PM   #28 
  - Myrna, this may be *your* first "CCW Killers" rodeo- but *we've* been here before  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-13-11 07:52 PM   #26 
  - And you guys are still posting the same lame excuses.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:10 PM   #41 
     - Not excuses. We show how the VPC number are cooked until they are burned.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-15-11 03:09 PM   #88 
  - There's an element here that reminds me strongly of the so-called "gun show loophole" discussion  Euromutt   Jul-13-11 08:30 PM   #31 
  - I have a CHP and I haven't killed anyone.  ileus   Jul-13-11 08:38 PM   #32 
  - Probably haven't need the dang thing, yet you can't leave home without it.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:11 PM   #42 
     - I haven't needed a fire extinguisher yet. Clearly, that means they're useless and no one need them.  TheWraith   Jul-13-11 09:33 PM   #48 
     - I have homeowners and auto insurance, too. Haven't had to use the  Common Sense Party   Jul-15-11 12:15 AM   #81 
     - Be kind of dumb not to use them for the reason I bought them for.  ileus   Jul-14-11 08:47 AM   #71 
     - Haven't needed it yet, but it hurts no one for me to have it.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-14-11 11:56 AM   #76 
  - So which is it.......Guns or People that kill people?  ileus   Jul-13-11 08:53 PM   #36 
  - Guns enable folks to do bad things that most wouldn't do.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:12 PM   #43 
     - Sounds like we need to ban guns so no more bad will be done.  ileus   Jul-13-11 09:30 PM   #46 
     - You are starting to get it. Now, leave your guns at home tomorrow.  Hoyt   Jul-13-11 09:52 PM   #51 
        - Tell you what I'll leave 96.43% of mine at home tomorrow.  ileus   Jul-14-11 08:49 AM   #72 
           - One of two things...  Glassunion   Jul-14-11 01:57 PM   #79 
     - That must be why there was no murder in the Middle Ages  Euromutt   Jul-13-11 10:22 PM   #55 
     - So does alcohol.  Common Sense Party   Jul-15-11 12:17 AM   #82 
  - And they remain exceedingly rare  krispos42   Jul-13-11 09:41 PM   #49 
  - Michael McLendon  krispos42   Jul-13-11 10:53 PM   #60 
  - what work?  MyrnaLoy   Jul-13-11 11:41 PM   #64 
     - lol, nobody ever claimed that permit holders never did anything wrong...  eqfan592   Jul-14-11 12:04 AM   #67 
     - I bet they all had driver's licenses, too. Oh, if only they didn't have a driver's license...  krispos42   Jul-14-11 05:13 AM   #70 
     - Pretty punk reasoning, but not surprised. This stuff has been up before...  SteveM   Jul-14-11 11:35 AM   #74 
  - Unrec for the VPC.  ManiacJoe   Jul-13-11 11:20 PM   #63 
  - Once again shading the truth  tortoise1956   Jul-14-11 02:26 AM   #68 
  - hahahahaaa  MyrnaLoy   Jul-14-11 03:38 AM   #69 
     - LOL, Myrna, you're a laugh a minute.  eqfan592   Jul-14-11 09:04 AM   #73 
     - Poor dear, you just like to F... with people. Gun-control is secondary to you. nt  SteveM   Jul-14-11 11:38 AM   #75 
  - I think you're completely full of shit when you claim  MicaelS   Jul-14-11 12:31 PM   #77 
  - Working on an advanced degree  one-eyed fat man   Jul-14-11 06:13 PM   #80 
  - Finishing it off...  tortoise1956   Jul-15-11 12:37 AM   #83 
  - hey  MyrnaLoy   Jul-15-11 01:40 AM   #85 
     - That might be relevant if somebody had claimed permit holders were saints.  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-15-11 02:43 PM   #87 
     - You never have answered one question.............  oneshooter   Jul-15-11 03:43 PM   #90 
     - Neither he nor I proved they had "CWP" permits, per your OP  krispos42   Jul-15-11 03:51 PM   #91 
     - Did you really mis the point that badly?  tortoise1956   Jul-16-11 10:18 PM   #111 
  - So what?  Glassunion   Jul-15-11 06:34 AM   #86 
  - Richard Poplawski: FAIL  Kennah   Jul-16-11 12:35 AM   #92 
  - WOW LOL  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 02:11 AM   #96 
     - Since he could have a gun in the house legally with or without the permit, yep. Non issue.  Kennah   Jul-16-11 03:44 AM   #101 
     - let me make this easy cuz  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 04:51 PM   #105 
     - It doesn't matter for the purpose of the VPC's claims  Euromutt   Jul-16-11 03:55 AM   #102 
        - wow  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 04:53 PM   #106 
           - Why haven't you answered the question on post #24? Afraid? n/t  oneshooter   Jul-16-11 06:53 PM   #107 
           - Wow indeed.  eqfan592   Jul-16-11 07:14 PM   #108 
              - so no  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 09:53 PM   #109 
                 - lol, you just can't go a day without making shit up, can you?  eqfan592   Jul-16-11 10:01 PM   #110 
                    - did  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 10:21 PM   #112 
                       - Yes, he did.  eqfan592   Jul-16-11 10:33 PM   #113 
                       - see how easy that was  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 10:52 PM   #116 
                          - Wow, just wow.  eqfan592   Jul-17-11 06:35 AM   #120 
                       - Could the guy have committed the crime despite not having a CCW permit?  Euromutt   Jul-16-11 10:49 PM   #114 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-16-11 10:54 PM   #117 
                             - I refer you to the incomparable XKCD...  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 12:34 AM   #118 
                             - Mirror, mirror, on the wall... n/t  PavePusher   Jul-17-11 07:22 PM   #129 
  - Jason Kenneth Hamilton: FAIL  Kennah   Jul-16-11 12:56 AM   #93 
  - are you  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 02:13 AM   #97 
     - I'm inclined because the FBI tends to be rather precise in their use of language.  Kennah   Jul-16-11 03:40 AM   #99 
  - Guillermo Zarabozo: FAIL  Kennah   Jul-16-11 01:56 AM   #94 
  - Thanks!  MyrnaLoy   Jul-16-11 02:10 AM   #95 
     - And you should cower in fear every time you see an armored car guard ...  Kennah   Jul-16-11 03:42 AM   #100 
     - I have to ask at this point: was there a coherent point you were trying to make?  Euromutt   Jul-16-11 04:23 AM   #103 
     - Please demonstrate how the "permit" enabled them to do something....  PavePusher   Jul-17-11 07:26 PM   #130 
  - Frank Garcia: UNKNOWN  Kennah   Jul-16-11 03:04 AM   #98 
  - New York state, having pioneered firearm licensing, has a somewhat unusual system  Euromutt   Jul-16-11 05:15 AM   #104 
  - MyrnaLoy says "the NRA fights to keep records sealed"  Kennah   Jul-16-11 10:50 PM   #115 
  - uber?  MyrnaLoy   Jul-17-11 01:49 AM   #119 
     - ...but as the # of permit holders increases, the rate remains the same  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-17-11 01:23 PM   #123 
     - Shrilly pointless repetition proves nothing.  PavePusher   Jul-17-11 07:28 PM   #131 
  - More evidence that...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-17-11 10:28 AM   #122 
  - Because there's a different sanction on bad performance as a legislator  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 01:26 PM   #124 
     - a failed reelection does not equal...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-17-11 01:30 PM   #125 
        - Fair enough, but I'm not sure that...  Euromutt   Jul-17-11 01:35 PM   #126 
           - true enough!  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-17-11 02:02 PM   #128 
  - Ric Romero reports: "Sometimes licensees abuse their privleges. Report at 11."  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-17-11 01:44 PM   #127 
 

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