You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #33: I'm having deja vu of Linda Lawrence [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Guns Donate to DU
Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:18 AM
Response to Original message
33. I'm having deja vu of Linda Lawrence
At Firearms Academy of Seattle, Marty showed the "Ultimate Survivors" video by Calibre Press. The Steve Chaney incident is the one that sticks in the head of most people.

Short story: 1977, Baton Rouge Police Officers Steve Chaney and Linda Lawrence respond to a disturbance call. The BG they encounter attacks them. BG tries to get Chaney's gun. Lawrence shoots BG once. BG grabs Lawrence's gun and kills her with it. Chaney and BG continues struggling and fighting, and Chaney ultimately kills the BG with about 10 or 11 shots, including one to the head.

The sad lesson learned was that a gun is not a talisman. If you NEED to shoot someone to stay alive, you shoot until the threat subsides. That appears to the be the lesson in Cheatham County today. The person with the gun didn't shoot until the threat ended.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
  -Victim of shooting takes gun and shoots and kills gunowner. russ1943  Jul-10-11 12:28 AM   #0 
  - Good grief--that sounds like a Darwin Award narrative. nt  MADem   Jul-10-11 12:31 AM   #1 
  - Future episode of 1000 ways to die.  Ozymanithrax   Jul-10-11 12:54 AM   #2 
  - What was all that silence? Oh yeah, the "law abiding gun owners" hoping this will blow over...  right2bfree   Jul-10-11 01:09 AM   #3 
  - It sounds as though the man with the permit was the victim, not the aggressor  petronius   Jul-10-11 01:25 AM   #4 
  - I'm not sure the "need for self defense" with a friggin gun ever arose in this situation.  Hoyt   Jul-10-11 01:29 AM   #6 
  - Well, since none of us were there, all we have is a vague press release,  gejohnston   Jul-10-11 01:33 AM   #7 
  - You're not really sure of anything, and neither is anyone else.  Straw Man   Jul-10-11 02:05 AM   #12 
  - The facts in evidence do favor that scenario  Euromutt   Jul-12-11 11:06 AM   #40 
  - "Why not shoot the guy when a chance arose"?  Euromutt   Jul-12-11 01:41 PM   #45 
  - The permit holder shot first - law abider? Nope  jpak   Jul-10-11 10:53 AM   #21 
     - he was attacked first  gejohnston   Jul-10-11 11:14 AM   #24 
  - How do you come to that conclusion?  gejohnston   Jul-10-11 01:25 AM   #5 
  - Escalate a fist fight into a gun fight  safeinOhio   Jul-10-11 01:33 AM   #8 
     - Like I told Hoyt  gejohnston   Jul-10-11 01:43 AM   #9 
     - Maybe he got into an argument and climbed out of his  safeinOhio   Jul-10-11 02:06 AM   #13 
        - Agreed.  Serve The Servants   Jul-10-11 05:15 AM   #15 
        - you are so right. rule #26:  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-10-11 06:30 AM   #17 
        - That depends on what you mean by "avoid trouble"  Euromutt   Jul-12-11 05:06 PM   #48 
        - Since I was not there and don't know any of the important facts,  gejohnston   Jul-10-11 11:19 AM   #25 
     - Broken nose... or a fatal curb-stomping  petronius   Jul-10-11 01:43 AM   #10 
     - you are also quite right. rule #3:  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-10-11 06:33 AM   #18 
     - Nice to see you volunteering to take a pulping...  krispos42   Jul-10-11 11:28 AM   #27 
  - For the umpteenth time, "data" is not the plural of "anecdote."  Straw Man   Jul-10-11 01:59 AM   #11 
  - By all means, show us where the states of Texas and Florida have got it wrong.  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-10-11 02:35 AM   #14 
  - Having a lower crime rate than cops?  safeinOhio   Jul-10-11 11:03 AM   #22 
     - you know how to bring the cynic out of a guy don't you?  gejohnston   Jul-10-11 01:54 PM   #28 
        - After being married to a cop  safeinOhio   Jul-10-11 02:22 PM   #29 
  - They are human.  rrneck   Jul-10-11 11:06 AM   #23 
  - Sometime you should take a statistics class at your local  pipoman   Jul-12-11 05:45 AM   #35 
  - Do you actually wish for law-abiding gun owners to go violent?  SteveM   Jul-12-11 12:38 PM   #42 
  - Another even smaller article.  Serve The Servants   Jul-10-11 05:57 AM   #16 
  - the key word is "believes."  gejohnston   Jul-10-11 11:25 AM   #26 
  - If so, that should be bad for Dickens  Euromutt   Jul-12-11 10:11 AM   #36 
     - If Dickens had an appointment there  gejohnston   Jul-12-11 04:57 PM   #47 
  - Clearly,...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-10-11 06:43 AM   #19 
  - More Gun Fun  jpak   Jul-10-11 10:50 AM   #20 
  - I thought this stuff turned you on; you actually like to see it, right? nt  SteveM   Jul-12-11 12:43 PM   #43 
  - That's why you have to ignore angry drivers...let them go.  ileus   Jul-10-11 02:33 PM   #30 
  - You got it.  safeinOhio   Jul-10-11 02:48 PM   #31 
  - Another sad case of evolution at work. n/t  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Jul-10-11 03:24 PM   #32 
  - Problem is, what if the angry driver doesn't let *you* go?  Euromutt   Jul-12-11 10:19 AM   #37 
     - That's when your CSD comes in handy...  ileus   Jul-12-11 10:28 AM   #38 
     - The article in the OP has it the other way around: the deceased gun-owner  petronius   Jul-12-11 12:03 PM   #41 
        - Oh spit, you're right; I read it wrong  Euromutt   Jul-12-11 04:52 PM   #46 
  - I'm having deja vu of Linda Lawrence  Kennah   Jul-12-11 03:18 AM   #33 
  - I couldn't agree more  Euromutt   Jul-12-11 10:34 AM   #39 
  - but, but  MyrnaLoy   Jul-12-11 04:12 AM   #34 
  - Don't worry...  SteveM   Jul-12-11 12:48 PM   #44 
     - Or  MyrnaLoy   Jul-12-11 06:14 PM   #49 
  - As an aside, were I on the grand jury...  Euromutt   Jul-15-11 06:55 AM   #50 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Guns Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC