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Reply #63: OK, you've raised the issue of unjust laws. That's not what we're talking about here. [View All]

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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 04:25 PM
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63. OK, you've raised the issue of unjust laws. That's not what we're talking about here.
Assuming a liberal democracy (maybe a big assumption, but I maintain that we still have one), then the person robbing is "bad" and the person being robbed is "good." This distinction has to be maintained if society is to function. I don't see that as simplistic. I'm not making an overall judgement on the person, although that's what the OP seems to think that "we" (guns rights advocates, whom he wrongly conflates with conservatives) do.

Yes, Manson had people who loved him. His actions, however, were simply unacceptable and had to be punished. I consider myself a liberal (or progressive, or whatever term you prefer), and I can see that very clearly. Again, nothing simplistic there. We're talking social utility.
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