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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:15 PM
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77. Do you base all your opinions on how many times something pops up in the press?
"summer of the shark", anyone?

If you want to see how many times CHL holders in Texas are convicted of a crime, I have the graph and the link..

For example, in 2009 there were 101 convictions for any crime by a CHL holder (of 402,914)- that's 0.025% or 1/40th of one percent.

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  -Law Allows Guns on School Grounds jpak  May-13-11 09:13 AM   #0 
  - Glad to see this issue getting addressed.  eqfan592   May-13-11 09:16 AM   #1 
  - +1 nt.  Hangingon   May-13-11 09:19 AM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-13-11 02:01 PM   #69 
  - Reasonable, Common Sense Approach +1 n/t  DWC   May-13-11 04:54 PM   #95 
  - This was an ongoing problem..  virginia mountainman   May-13-11 09:19 AM   #2 
  - thank you so much for continuing to posting post these stories  sasha031   May-13-11 09:24 AM   #4 
  - What is "out of control"? Please, be specific.... n/t  PavePusher   May-13-11 10:05 AM   #8 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-13-11 10:12 AM   #11 
        - Of course......  eqfan592   May-13-11 10:14 AM   #13 
        - My "profile" is right where everyone else's is.  PavePusher   May-13-11 10:14 AM   #14 
        - I found it easily enough.  rrneck   May-13-11 10:18 AM   #15 
  - idiocy  fascisthunter   May-13-11 09:28 AM   #5 
  - I guess this is just to address those who cannot handle any separation from their arsenal  DrDan   May-13-11 09:33 AM   #6 
  - "The goal, of course, is unlimited and unrestricted gun access."  GKirk   May-13-11 09:59 AM   #7 
  - not sure that is in the best interest of the community at large  DrDan   May-13-11 11:11 AM   #19 
     - what do you know about the best interest of the community  rl6214   May-13-11 04:52 PM   #93 
  - What are you offering as a guarantee for the safety of myself and my children.....  PavePusher   May-13-11 10:06 AM   #9 
     - See, that's the part people aren't willing to address.  eqfan592   May-13-11 10:09 AM   #10 
     - I have asked that question repeatedly, here and on other forums.  PavePusher   May-13-11 10:13 AM   #12 
     - And if you cannot guarantee the personal safety of those you come in contact with,  DrDan   May-13-11 11:09 AM   #18 
        - That's some very flawed reasoning.  eqfan592   May-13-11 11:18 AM   #20 
        - I love this . . . I have irrational fears . . . and this from someone who must constantly be  DrDan   May-13-11 11:28 AM   #23 
           - See post 24. NT  eqfan592   May-13-11 11:30 AM   #25 
              - see post 27. NT  DrDan   May-13-11 11:34 AM   #28 
                 - I did.  eqfan592   May-13-11 11:41 AM   #30 
                    - of course it would be - if it addressed an unconscious, irrational fear  DrDan   May-13-11 11:51 AM   #33 
                       - Perhaps one you are projecting on me...  eqfan592   May-13-11 12:00 PM   #35 
                          - matter of opinion  DrDan   May-13-11 12:08 PM   #39 
                             - No it's a matter of facts... and you don't have them. n/t  PavePusher   May-13-11 02:46 PM   #84 
        - Yeah, how did that no guns on campus thing work out  rl6214   May-13-11 04:53 PM   #94 
     - and what are you offering as a guarantee for the safety of myself and my children  DrDan   May-13-11 11:08 AM   #17 
        - How about all the stats available...  eqfan592   May-13-11 11:20 AM   #21 
        - my fears . . . interesting . . . I am not the one needing to carry a gun  DrDan   May-13-11 11:26 AM   #22 
           - *sigh* Let's go through this ONE MORE TIME then  eqfan592   May-13-11 11:29 AM   #24 
              - and I call this legislation for those who have an "irrational fear" of being without a gun  DrDan   May-13-11 11:33 AM   #27 
                 - I see, so instead of even attempting to counter my point...  eqfan592   May-13-11 11:41 AM   #29 
                    - Do you carry a gallon of gas in your trunk in case you run out or your  DrDan   May-13-11 11:49 AM   #32 
                       - Actually, I do just about all of those.  eqfan592   May-13-11 11:57 AM   #34 
                       - All that and plus  one-eyed fat man   May-13-11 12:11 PM   #40 
                       - that is not the point - guns have no business on school grounds -  DrDan   May-13-11 12:15 PM   #41 
                          - And yet they end up there anyway...  eqfan592   May-13-11 12:24 PM   #43 
                          - like the gun-bearer in Tucson  DrDan   May-13-11 12:25 PM   #44 
                             - Or Virginia Tech, or Columbine, etc.  eqfan592   May-13-11 12:28 PM   #46 
                                - I am referring to the person with a gun in the vicinity of the Tucson shooter  DrDan   May-13-11 12:42 PM   #49 
                                   - He wasn't directly at the scene.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 01:54 PM   #63 
                          - When I was kid there wasn't a teacher's car  one-eyed fat man   May-13-11 01:10 PM   #54 
                             - and a few years back, there was not a student that did not study by candlelight  DrDan   May-13-11 01:41 PM   #60 
                                - Bath Unified School  one-eyed fat man   May-13-11 03:26 PM   #87 
                       - In my car I am prepared for all of those and more.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 01:52 PM   #62 
                       - like this guy?  DrDan   May-13-11 01:57 PM   #64 
                       - Let's see here:  rl6214   May-13-11 05:00 PM   #96 
        - I offer NOTHING  one-eyed fat man   May-13-11 12:00 PM   #36 
           - I am not asking for your gun prowess  DrDan   May-13-11 12:08 PM   #38 
              - It's the "if just ONE *insert handwringing topic here* happens" sort of arguments.  eqfan592   May-13-11 12:26 PM   #45 
              - but you cannot say that CCW permit holders are accident free, now can you  DrDan   May-13-11 12:51 PM   #50 
              - The chances of getting struck by lightning are far greater...  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 01:59 PM   #67 
                 - there were 3 CCW holders involved in incidents in a single week  DrDan   May-13-11 02:05 PM   #70 
                 - Out of about 10 million of us there will be a few jerks.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 02:11 PM   #74 
                 - pretty well  DrDan   May-13-11 02:12 PM   #76 
                    - Doesn't look like VT's gun free zone worked too well.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 02:44 PM   #83 
                 - Do you base all your opinions on how many times something pops up in the press?  X_Digger   May-13-11 02:15 PM   #77 
                 - 202 DEATHS by CCW holders in a 3 year period  DrDan   May-13-11 02:09 PM   #72 
                    - That is an extremely low rate, far below that of the general population.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 02:27 PM   #78 
                    - You know those include suicides, right (Brock McCarthy, and 28 of them in MI)?  X_Digger   May-13-11 03:00 PM   #86 
                    - There are more felons killed by armed citizens than that.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 03:44 PM   #88 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   May-13-11 04:00 PM   #89 
              - almost forgot about this  DrDan   May-13-11 01:04 PM   #52 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-13-11 12:33 PM   #47 
  - Same law we have here in is normal, no problems.  ileus   May-13-11 10:31 AM   #16 
  - so - no guns-on-school-grounds problems in Va?  DrDan   May-13-11 11:31 AM   #26 
     - None reported at least: I drop the kids off with my EDC all the time. Just drive thru and drop off  ileus   May-13-11 12:03 PM   #37 
  - In Texas you can drop your kid off and pick them up and still have a gun...  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 11:45 AM   #31 
  - is it a big deal to do those things without a gun?  DrDan   May-13-11 12:17 PM   #42 
     - This rule keeps you from having to drive home and dropping your gun off  ileus   May-13-11 12:33 PM   #48 
        - there is no law saying you cannot run around your house  DrDan   May-13-11 12:55 PM   #51 
           - that's right, safetyof my kids is the #1 reason I put my pistol on.  ileus   May-13-11 01:07 PM   #53 
           - I present no danger to students armed or not armed ...  spin   May-13-11 01:11 PM   #55 
           - yo have evidence that allowing guns has stopped a shooter?  DrDan   May-13-11 01:36 PM   #58 
              - It's not meant to stop a shooter, just allow parents to drop off their kids legally or drive by...  ileus   May-13-11 01:57 PM   #65 
              - those picking up students can do so safely without the need for a gun  DrDan   May-13-11 01:59 PM   #68 
                 - Are you offer me a guarantee of safety?  Hangingon   May-13-11 02:43 PM   #82 
                    - nope - are you offing me a guarantee of safety from your gun?  DrDan   May-13-11 02:49 PM   #85 
              - Yes, of course I have evidence, glad to share.  spin   May-13-11 04:32 PM   #91 
           - CHL holders are remarkable safe with their guns.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 01:25 PM   #56 
              - yeah - right  DrDan   May-13-11 01:35 PM   #57 
              - A watershed moment in CCW history  Katya Mullethov   May-13-11 01:40 PM   #59 
              - so - no defense of CCW-holders? No claims of responsibility, maturity, safety?  DrDan   May-13-11 01:50 PM   #61 
                 - Not after that paradigm shifting event  Katya Mullethov   May-13-11 02:32 PM   #80 
                    - can't blame you one bit  DrDan   May-13-11 02:36 PM   #81 
                       - It is one of the main reasons  Katya Mullethov   May-13-11 04:29 PM   #90 
              - There are about 10 million people with CCWs. A very few will be bad apples.  GreenStormCloud   May-13-11 02:07 PM   #71 
              - Of course they are, people who care are responsible adults. why endanger your right...  ileus   May-13-11 01:59 PM   #66 
  - I carry a gun into school all the time to pick up my little brothers.  David West   May-13-11 02:09 PM   #73 
  - not exactly sure what that proves . . . .  DrDan   May-13-11 02:11 PM   #75 
  - Good on you for being concerned about the kids safety...+1  ileus   May-13-11 02:29 PM   #79 
  - Obvious ant-gun bias by the writer.  rl6214   May-13-11 04:47 PM   #92 
  - Rec. Common sense gun control  lawodevolution   May-13-11 05:14 PM   #97 

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