DrDan
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Fri May-13-11 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #62 |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... I think the irrational fear lies with those who think they cannot function in life without a gun.
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| -Law Allows Guns on School Grounds |
jpak |
May-13-11 09:13 AM |
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Glad to see this issue getting addressed. |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 09:16 AM |
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+1 nt. |
Hangingon |
May-13-11 09:19 AM |
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May-13-11 02:01 PM |
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Reasonable, Common Sense Approach +1 n/t |
DWC |
May-13-11 04:54 PM |
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This was an ongoing problem.. |
virginia mountainman |
May-13-11 09:19 AM |
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thank you so much for continuing to posting post these stories |
sasha031 |
May-13-11 09:24 AM |
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What is "out of control"? Please, be specific.... n/t |
PavePusher |
May-13-11 10:05 AM |
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May-13-11 10:12 AM |
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Of course...... |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 10:14 AM |
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My "profile" is right where everyone else's is. |
PavePusher |
May-13-11 10:14 AM |
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I found it easily enough. |
rrneck |
May-13-11 10:18 AM |
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idiocy |
fascisthunter |
May-13-11 09:28 AM |
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I guess this is just to address those who cannot handle any separation from their arsenal |
DrDan |
May-13-11 09:33 AM |
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"The goal, of course, is unlimited and unrestricted gun access." |
GKirk |
May-13-11 09:59 AM |
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not sure that is in the best interest of the community at large |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:11 AM |
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what do you know about the best interest of the community |
rl6214 |
May-13-11 04:52 PM |
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What are you offering as a guarantee for the safety of myself and my children..... |
PavePusher |
May-13-11 10:06 AM |
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See, that's the part people aren't willing to address. |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 10:09 AM |
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I have asked that question repeatedly, here and on other forums. |
PavePusher |
May-13-11 10:13 AM |
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And if you cannot guarantee the personal safety of those you come in contact with, |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:09 AM |
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That's some very flawed reasoning. |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 11:18 AM |
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I love this . . . I have irrational fears . . . and this from someone who must constantly be |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:28 AM |
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See post 24. NT |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 11:30 AM |
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see post 27. NT |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:34 AM |
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I did. |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 11:41 AM |
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of course it would be - if it addressed an unconscious, irrational fear |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:51 AM |
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Perhaps one you are projecting on me... |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 12:00 PM |
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matter of opinion |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:08 PM |
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No it's a matter of facts... and you don't have them. n/t |
PavePusher |
May-13-11 02:46 PM |
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Yeah, how did that no guns on campus thing work out |
rl6214 |
May-13-11 04:53 PM |
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and what are you offering as a guarantee for the safety of myself and my children |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:08 AM |
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How about all the stats available... |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 11:20 AM |
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my fears . . . interesting . . . I am not the one needing to carry a gun |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:26 AM |
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*sigh* Let's go through this ONE MORE TIME then |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 11:29 AM |
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and I call this legislation for those who have an "irrational fear" of being without a gun |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:33 AM |
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I see, so instead of even attempting to counter my point... |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 11:41 AM |
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Do you carry a gallon of gas in your trunk in case you run out or your |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:49 AM |
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Actually, I do just about all of those. |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 11:57 AM |
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All that and plus |
one-eyed fat man |
May-13-11 12:11 PM |
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that is not the point - guns have no business on school grounds - |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:15 PM |
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And yet they end up there anyway... |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 12:24 PM |
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like the gun-bearer in Tucson |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:25 PM |
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Or Virginia Tech, or Columbine, etc. |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 12:28 PM |
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I am referring to the person with a gun in the vicinity of the Tucson shooter |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:42 PM |
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He wasn't directly at the scene. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 01:54 PM |
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When I was kid there wasn't a teacher's car |
one-eyed fat man |
May-13-11 01:10 PM |
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and a few years back, there was not a student that did not study by candlelight |
DrDan |
May-13-11 01:41 PM |
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Bath Unified School |
one-eyed fat man |
May-13-11 03:26 PM |
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In my car I am prepared for all of those and more. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 01:52 PM |
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like this guy? |
DrDan |
May-13-11 01:57 PM |
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Let's see here: |
rl6214 |
May-13-11 05:00 PM |
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I offer NOTHING |
one-eyed fat man |
May-13-11 12:00 PM |
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I am not asking for your gun prowess |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:08 PM |
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It's the "if just ONE *insert handwringing topic here* happens" sort of arguments. |
eqfan592 |
May-13-11 12:26 PM |
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but you cannot say that CCW permit holders are accident free, now can you |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:51 PM |
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The chances of getting struck by lightning are far greater... |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 01:59 PM |
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there were 3 CCW holders involved in incidents in a single week |
DrDan |
May-13-11 02:05 PM |
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Out of about 10 million of us there will be a few jerks. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 02:11 PM |
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pretty well |
DrDan |
May-13-11 02:12 PM |
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Doesn't look like VT's gun free zone worked too well. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 02:44 PM |
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Do you base all your opinions on how many times something pops up in the press? |
X_Digger |
May-13-11 02:15 PM |
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202 DEATHS by CCW holders in a 3 year period |
DrDan |
May-13-11 02:09 PM |
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That is an extremely low rate, far below that of the general population. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 02:27 PM |
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You know those include suicides, right (Brock McCarthy, and 28 of them in MI)? |
X_Digger |
May-13-11 03:00 PM |
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There are more felons killed by armed citizens than that. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 03:44 PM |
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May-13-11 04:00 PM |
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almost forgot about this |
DrDan |
May-13-11 01:04 PM |
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May-13-11 12:33 PM |
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Same law we have here in Va....as is normal, no problems. |
ileus |
May-13-11 10:31 AM |
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so - no guns-on-school-grounds problems in Va? |
DrDan |
May-13-11 11:31 AM |
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None reported at least: I drop the kids off with my EDC all the time. Just drive thru and drop off |
ileus |
May-13-11 12:03 PM |
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In Texas you can drop your kid off and pick them up and still have a gun... |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 11:45 AM |
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is it a big deal to do those things without a gun? |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:17 PM |
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This rule keeps you from having to drive home and dropping your gun off |
ileus |
May-13-11 12:33 PM |
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there is no law saying you cannot run around your house |
DrDan |
May-13-11 12:55 PM |
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that's right, safetyof my kids is the #1 reason I put my pistol on. |
ileus |
May-13-11 01:07 PM |
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I present no danger to students armed or not armed ... |
spin |
May-13-11 01:11 PM |
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yo have evidence that allowing guns has stopped a shooter? |
DrDan |
May-13-11 01:36 PM |
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It's not meant to stop a shooter, just allow parents to drop off their kids legally or drive by... |
ileus |
May-13-11 01:57 PM |
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those picking up students can do so safely without the need for a gun |
DrDan |
May-13-11 01:59 PM |
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Are you offer me a guarantee of safety? |
Hangingon |
May-13-11 02:43 PM |
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nope - are you offing me a guarantee of safety from your gun? |
DrDan |
May-13-11 02:49 PM |
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Yes, of course I have evidence, glad to share. |
spin |
May-13-11 04:32 PM |
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CHL holders are remarkable safe with their guns. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 01:25 PM |
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yeah - right |
DrDan |
May-13-11 01:35 PM |
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A watershed moment in CCW history |
Katya Mullethov |
May-13-11 01:40 PM |
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so - no defense of CCW-holders? No claims of responsibility, maturity, safety? |
DrDan |
May-13-11 01:50 PM |
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Not after that paradigm shifting event |
Katya Mullethov |
May-13-11 02:32 PM |
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can't blame you one bit |
DrDan |
May-13-11 02:36 PM |
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It is one of the main reasons |
Katya Mullethov |
May-13-11 04:29 PM |
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There are about 10 million people with CCWs. A very few will be bad apples. |
GreenStormCloud |
May-13-11 02:07 PM |
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Of course they are, people who care are responsible adults. why endanger your right... |
ileus |
May-13-11 01:59 PM |
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I carry a gun into school all the time to pick up my little brothers. |
David West |
May-13-11 02:09 PM |
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not exactly sure what that proves . . . . |
DrDan |
May-13-11 02:11 PM |
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Good on you for being concerned about the kids safety...+1 |
ileus |
May-13-11 02:29 PM |
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Obvious ant-gun bias by the writer. |
rl6214 |
May-13-11 04:47 PM |
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Rec. Common sense gun control |
lawodevolution |
May-13-11 05:14 PM |
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