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Mon Apr-11-11 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 76. Yea, "gesture of defiance" is what we need in public. |
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That's not a good reason to carry.
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| -Some people have an irrational fear of firearms ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 11:52 AM |
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If that is possible, it is also possible, therefore, to have an irrational love of firearms. nt |
patrice |
Apr-11-11 11:53 AM |
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+1 |
villager |
Apr-11-11 11:57 AM |
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Certainly - it's possible to have an irrational love of anything. |
dmallind |
Apr-11-11 12:04 PM |
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True. I did not mean to imply that all relationships to guns are irrational, only that this IS |
patrice |
Apr-11-11 12:21 PM |
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+2 |
Cheap_Trick |
Apr-11-11 12:09 PM |
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Is there such a thing as rational love? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-12-11 02:35 AM |
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No one ever denied that some folks go too far in that direction |
WatsonT |
Apr-12-11 11:41 AM |
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Probably a very small percentage of gun owners have an irrational love ... |
spin |
Apr-12-11 07:01 PM |
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No love is for humans, being overly fond of guns...maybe. |
ileus |
Apr-12-11 07:04 PM |
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Their Sole Purpose Is To Kill |
Me. |
Apr-11-11 12:01 PM |
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Mine must be defective then - they just put holes in paper and bounce off steel backstops |
dmallind |
Apr-11-11 12:06 PM |
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Mine, too. I want my money back. |
Common Sense Party |
Apr-11-11 12:59 PM |
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Yeah, up until the day a gun owner punches a hole in a human being, they are a L-A-G-O.. |
right2bfree |
Apr-11-11 04:51 PM |
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I presume you are a law abiding computer owner, and will remain one... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Apr-11-11 05:21 PM |
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My computer is used for multiple reasons. Your gun only has one: to Kill. nt |
right2bfree |
Apr-11-11 06:21 PM |
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How do you explain the fact that I have fired well over 200,000 rounds and never ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 07:15 PM |
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She can't get over that |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 08:11 PM |
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Name removed |
Apr-11-11 08:37 PM |
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Guns can be used for multiple purposes. It's impossible to |
burrfoot |
Apr-12-11 12:34 AM |
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Blah blah blah blah blah |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 05:23 PM |
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How often does that happen? ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 07:31 PM |
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So does your calumny |
one-eyed fat man |
Apr-12-11 11:22 AM |
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No, their sole purpose is not to kil |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 12:11 PM |
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Apr-11-11 12:19 PM |
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Kill who? |
rrneck |
Apr-11-11 01:00 PM |
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Are Scottish guns designed to kilt? nt |
Remmah2 |
Apr-11-11 02:07 PM |
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Your opinion is similar to that held by the lady who wrote the article in the OP ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 01:13 PM |
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Not to mention... |
virginia mountainman |
Apr-11-11 01:20 PM |
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Their primary purpose is destruction: of a human, an animal, a target. |
elocs |
Apr-11-11 01:39 PM |
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Destroying the center of a paper target is not the same as killing. (n/t) . |
spin |
Apr-11-11 01:49 PM |
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Never said it was, but it is destruction. Guns, when used, are used to destroy something. n/t |
elocs |
Apr-11-11 03:07 PM |
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The comment that started this discussion was " Their Sole Purpose Is To Kill" ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 03:59 PM |
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By that logic, fireplaces are solely used to destroy something too (nt) |
petronius |
Apr-12-11 07:10 PM |
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But the primary pupose of gun is not destorying the center of a paper target. |
mmerong4u |
Apr-11-11 11:17 PM |
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I wouldn't call punching a hole in the center of a target, destruction |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 03:24 PM |
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Right, holes are shot into them to make them more whole, more constructed. |
elocs |
Apr-11-11 03:39 PM |
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No holes in my steel targets, the bullets just bounce off |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 03:41 PM |
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Mine have killed, lots. |
GreenStormCloud |
Apr-11-11 01:55 PM |
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Fear of guns? No fear of nutters with guns? Yes. Guns are for killing, period. |
right2bfree |
Apr-11-11 04:46 PM |
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Unfortuantely that is a simplistic view that is false. |
spin |
Apr-11-11 05:35 PM |
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So what? |
Atypical Liberal |
Apr-11-11 04:53 PM |
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Is ignorance bliss? |
cleanhippie |
Apr-12-11 06:20 AM |
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Wrong....guns are made for shooting and collecting. |
ileus |
Apr-12-11 07:05 PM |
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I diasgree about the word "irrational"..... |
Logical |
Apr-11-11 12:46 PM |
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We differ in that I don't view firearms as "scary" ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 01:32 PM |
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Of course you don't because you like guns. Guns do scare people and if we stop... |
Logical |
Apr-11-11 04:15 PM |
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I don't wish to make fun of those who have a phobia about firearms ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 07:01 PM |
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I did not think you did, I was talking about in general. But that was a great post! Also..... |
Logical |
Apr-11-11 09:55 PM |
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People who say we carry because of fear are using the psychological defense mechanism ... |
spin |
Apr-12-11 12:10 PM |
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I don't find too many things 'scary'. |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 03:31 PM |
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Well, I disagree. I know my wifes will not shoot them and hates them. |
Logical |
Apr-11-11 04:16 PM |
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And that is her/their right. |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 04:40 PM |
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Glad your wife feels comfortable with them! n-t |
Logical |
Apr-11-11 05:51 PM |
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My Loving Wife not only asked me to build her a AR-15... |
oneshooter |
Apr-11-11 06:44 PM |
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Nice! n-t |
Logical |
Apr-11-11 09:34 PM |
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Just sitting there waiting for a child to pick it up and play with it? Yeah, right!! nt |
right2bfree |
Apr-11-11 05:06 PM |
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That child is going to take it off my hip |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 05:26 PM |
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The most over the top irrational fear |
GKirk |
Apr-11-11 12:56 PM |
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Where does the TimesLive originate? |
Hangingon |
Apr-11-11 01:08 PM |
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The writer is a South African journalist based in NYC. |
spin |
Apr-11-11 01:38 PM |
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I'm not sold 100% on the "irrational" part. |
Glassunion |
Apr-11-11 01:35 PM |
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I really feel you have a healthy respect for firearms, not a fear ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 01:44 PM |
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That's why I stated her fear leans towrds phobia. Quite unhealthy. |
Glassunion |
Apr-11-11 01:48 PM |
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You do make a good point . Phobia is a better term. (n/t) |
spin |
Apr-11-11 01:51 PM |
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Yup... Same as me and dentists. |
Glassunion |
Apr-11-11 01:53 PM |
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"nobody would be getting shot." |
Atypical Liberal |
Apr-11-11 04:51 PM |
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I respect her "fear" more than those who fear walking out of the house without their gun. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 08:18 PM |
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Describe for us a " easy background check". n/t |
oneshooter |
Apr-11-11 08:42 PM |
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Are you kidding? Have you read some of the rationalizations from carriers here? If they passed. . . |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 09:20 PM |
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The Texas background check is acceptable to the BATFE, so much so |
oneshooter |
Apr-11-11 09:36 PM |
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Lets just have "shall issue" concealed carry all over this nation ... |
spin |
Apr-11-11 08:56 PM |
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So, when a younger person walks toward you, does adrenaline fuel your fear? |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 09:18 PM |
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WOW |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 09:55 PM |
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Then he goes on to describe what he fears and why he carries. Read it yourself. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 10:04 PM |
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Just read it again, you are wrong |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 10:31 PM |
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No, he specifically describes what he is afraid of in clear terms. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 11:58 PM |
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I was going to say now you are just making stuff up BUT |
rl6214 |
Apr-12-11 12:26 AM |
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Of course not, why would it? |
spin |
Apr-11-11 10:42 PM |
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How do you prove this statement: |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 09:48 PM |
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Only germophobes need health insurance. |
LibertyFox |
Apr-11-11 09:57 PM |
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Wow, is that why you purchase life insurance? Most people do it "insure" family . . . . . |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 10:11 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 10:35 PM |
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Well if it is "love" of cold steel, that's sad too. If it to "intimidate people," that's worse. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 10:08 PM |
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One good reason is as a gesture of defiance ... |
MicaelS |
Apr-11-11 10:18 PM |
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Yea, "gesture of defiance" is what we need in public. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 10:44 PM |
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You're right. Citizens advocating for Civil Rights should never commit "gestures of defiance". |
PavePusher |
Apr-11-11 10:48 PM |
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Sorry, your penchant for guns is not the same as denying someone a job, or place at the counter. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 11:38 PM |
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All Civil Rights are of equal weight. |
PavePusher |
Apr-12-11 12:36 AM |
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Who says they are equal? Your right to carry guns in public can -- and should -- be restricted. |
Hoyt |
Apr-12-11 05:06 AM |
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Irrelevent dodge. |
PavePusher |
Apr-12-11 10:59 AM |
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. |
Glassunion |
Apr-12-11 11:16 AM |
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You didn't answer my question. |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 10:37 PM |
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So far, you have not offered one alternative. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 10:45 PM |
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I don't have to offer you an alternative |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 10:53 PM |
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Starter reason number 1 |
RSillsbee |
Apr-12-11 11:25 AM |
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This 3% you keep throwing around may not be so accurate. |
Glassunion |
Apr-12-11 01:33 PM |
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Do you wear a seat belt? Do you "fear" driving without a seat belt fastened? |
Common Sense Party |
Apr-11-11 11:16 PM |
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No - some people have a fear of open carry Teabaggin' GOP morans that use guns to intimidate |
jpak |
Apr-11-11 10:25 PM |
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I mostly O.C., and I think I'm fairly Liberal. |
PavePusher |
Apr-11-11 10:33 PM |
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Ah, there he is, the shtickmeister |
rl6214 |
Apr-11-11 10:39 PM |
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+1. Those few "liberals" that sport weapons merely enable the ones you describe. |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 10:47 PM |
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"Enable" Civil Rights? |
PavePusher |
Apr-11-11 10:49 PM |
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The SCOTUS has pronounced that the Holy 2A has limitations and is not absolute |
jpak |
Apr-11-11 11:02 PM |
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Willing "victims" |
one-eyed fat man |
Apr-12-11 11:51 AM |
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Not a civil right to carry a gun to promote TBag philosophies. Guns ain't like freedom of speech |
Hoyt |
Apr-11-11 11:46 PM |
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"Guns ain't like freedom of speech" |
rl6214 |
Apr-12-11 12:31 AM |
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And |
Abq_Sarah |
Apr-12-11 12:41 AM |
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No, probably not a scholar of any type. n/t |
oneshooter |
Apr-12-11 09:41 AM |
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A lot of liberals carry, concealed and openly. |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Apr-12-11 06:58 PM |
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Weird, this fear predates the teaparty movement |
WatsonT |
Apr-12-11 11:42 AM |
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Is it fair to label this irrational fear a mental disorder? |
WatsonT |
Apr-12-11 11:40 AM |
#101 |
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