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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 09:51 PM
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9. 366 deaths more due to drunk driving and guns are not a problem?
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  -Some perspective: Drunk Driving deaths vs. Gun Homicide cleanhippie  Feb-27-11 09:36 PM   #0 
  - it's from guns AND drunks  Skittles   Feb-27-11 09:36 PM   #1 
  - Add accidental gun deaths and suicides to the bottom total.  brewens   Feb-27-11 09:41 PM   #2 
  - Add all alcohol related death. Liver disease  Ken_Fish   Feb-27-11 09:47 PM   #4 
  - That is nothing to be proud of. Remember they enforce drunk driving  applegrove   Feb-27-11 09:43 PM   #3 
  - Should he include accidental and suicidal vehicular homicide as well?  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-27-11 09:48 PM   #5 
  - Yeah. And there will be tons of accidental deaths by car. But driving a car actually  applegrove   Feb-27-11 09:55 PM   #14 
     - You dont need a car. Ride a bike or a horse. Need is a short list.  Ken_Fish   Feb-27-11 10:01 PM   #15 
     - Self-defense is not a "function"? Hunting for food is not a "function"?  PavePusher   Feb-27-11 10:28 PM   #25 
     - You don't "need" a car either.  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 12:54 AM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-27-11 09:50 PM   #7 
  - You have it reversed. the stats back ccw, you know 10 years and millions of people  Ken_Fish   Feb-27-11 09:53 PM   #11 
  - Pro lifers won't quit. Anti gun advocates won't either.  sharesunited   Feb-27-11 11:15 PM   #28 
     - So you acknowlegde that the camp you identify with is anti-rights at it's core values?  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-28-11 12:37 AM   #30 
     - Are you REALLY comparing yourself to pro-lifers? REALLY?  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 12:55 AM   #33 
     - Although I don't agree with them, I fully understand that they take a longer term view.  sharesunited   Feb-28-11 10:37 PM   #68 
     - I would say...  beevul   Feb-28-11 05:02 AM   #44 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-27-11 10:06 PM   #16 
     - More bigots trying to disparage gun owners and civil rights.  lawodevolution   Feb-27-11 10:21 PM   #21 
     - You love blanket smears that are insulting AND against DU rules?  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 12:56 AM   #34 
  - Oh, should I include ALL alcohol related deaths then?  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 12:53 AM   #31 
  - I can't get to work riding a gun...  provis99   Feb-27-11 09:50 PM   #6 
  - But you can drink a pint of aristocrat on the way in your car. But you dont..  Ken_Fish   Feb-27-11 09:55 PM   #13 
  - Take a look at these numbers. This was accomplished by punishing criminals  Ken_Fish   Feb-27-11 09:50 PM   #8 
  - 366 deaths more due to drunk driving and guns are not a problem?  Iris   Feb-27-11 09:51 PM   #9 
  - Nope, hey lets ban alcohol I bet that will fix everything.  Ken_Fish   Feb-27-11 09:54 PM   #12 
  - And according to the CDC smoking kills about 400,000.  virgogal   Feb-27-11 09:51 PM   #10 
  - Yep  lawodevolution   Feb-27-11 10:23 PM   #22 
  - 100 % correct.  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 12:57 AM   #35 
  - how many  MyrnaLoy   Feb-27-11 10:06 PM   #17 
  - One death is less heinous than another?  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 12:58 AM   #36 
     - So  MyrnaLoy   Feb-28-11 02:18 AM   #43 
        - So  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 09:15 AM   #48 
           - guess that means  MyrnaLoy   Feb-28-11 05:22 PM   #58 
              - Guess that means  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 07:05 PM   #63 
  - You're right  SecularMotion   Feb-27-11 10:08 PM   #18 
  - Oh LOL..  X_Digger   Feb-27-11 10:11 PM   #19 
  - LOL, You're link doesn't dispute that gun violence happens in homes  SecularMotion   Feb-27-11 10:18 PM   #20 
     - That's one point, yes..  X_Digger   Feb-27-11 10:25 PM   #23 
  - They are only a risk if you exclude anyone who has ever used a gun in self defense  Taitertots   Feb-27-11 10:26 PM   #24 
  - I posted the link to show that much gun violence occurs in homes as opposed to the streets  SecularMotion   Feb-27-11 10:34 PM   #26 
  - You do realize that story was 1993  rl6214   Feb-27-11 10:38 PM   #27 
  - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! KELLERMAN? REALLY?  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 12:59 AM   #37 
     - See post #26  SecularMotion   Feb-28-11 05:56 AM   #45 
        - Fail. Again.  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 09:17 AM   #49 
           - Let me walk you through this slowly  SecularMotion   Feb-28-11 09:32 AM   #51 
              - Let me walk YOU through this slowly. You posted a flawed and debunked study.  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 10:47 AM   #52 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-28-11 11:02 AM   #53 
                 - The study may be flawed to support the argument  SecularMotion   Feb-28-11 03:54 PM   #54 
                    - It was the very claim you made. n/t  PavePusher   Feb-28-11 04:09 PM   #55 
                    - Where?  SecularMotion   Feb-28-11 04:16 PM   #56 
                       - Did I misinterpret your point here:  PavePusher   Feb-28-11 05:56 PM   #59 
                          - Yes, you did misinterpret it - Please read post #51 n/t  SecularMotion   Feb-28-11 06:45 PM   #60 
                    - That's EXACTLY what you claimed!  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 06:58 PM   #61 
                       - This is the last time I walk you through this  SecularMotion   Feb-28-11 07:14 PM   #64 
                          - We are in agreement.  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 10:24 PM   #66 
  - Also, there are over 7 thousand deaths from drowning in the US each year.  old mark   Feb-27-11 11:17 PM   #29 
  - Equally ridiculous rates of unnecessary deaths.  mcranor   Feb-28-11 01:42 AM   #38 
  - As shown in the O.P. . . Not equal. n/t  Hoopla Phil   Feb-28-11 01:46 AM   #39 
  - See what I mean about the quibbly distraction thingie?  mcranor   Feb-28-11 01:53 AM   #40 
     - That's the wonderful thing about math. It is either equal or it is not. It really is that simple  Hoopla Phil   Feb-28-11 01:55 AM   #41 
        - Math may be harder than you think  mcranor   Feb-28-11 02:06 AM   #42 
  - Number of people killed BY guns, 0; number of people killed WITH guns, ~30K/year  Euromutt   Feb-28-11 11:12 PM   #69 
  - Okay, so let's have laws that say that no gun can leave the house without proof of mandatory  enough   Feb-28-11 06:47 AM   #46 
  - you could use the 250,000 dead iraqis  Ken_Fish   Feb-28-11 06:56 AM   #47 
  - One does not need insurance to exercise a Constitutional right.  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 09:19 AM   #50 
  - People HAVE to drive. No need for guns. Wow is this a stupid post.  KansasVoter   Feb-28-11 04:48 PM   #57 
     - Totally false, but you are right about one thing...  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 07:01 PM   #62 
     - Wow, that was clever.  KansasVoter   Feb-28-11 09:06 PM   #65 
        - Thanks.  cleanhippie   Feb-28-11 10:25 PM   #67 
     - And ultimately, people may HAVE to defend themselves against criminal assault  Euromutt   Feb-28-11 11:32 PM   #70 
 

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