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Sun Feb-27-11 09:50 PM
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| 6. I can't get to work riding a gun... |
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But since we're on the topic of ridiculous comparisons and straw men, how about that old age? That kills million sof people in America, not just thousands!
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| -Some perspective: Drunk Driving deaths vs. Gun Homicide |
cleanhippie |
Feb-27-11 09:36 PM |
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it's from guns AND drunks |
Skittles |
Feb-27-11 09:36 PM |
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Add accidental gun deaths and suicides to the bottom total. |
brewens |
Feb-27-11 09:41 PM |
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Add all alcohol related death. Liver disease |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-27-11 09:47 PM |
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That is nothing to be proud of. Remember they enforce drunk driving |
applegrove |
Feb-27-11 09:43 PM |
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Should he include accidental and suicidal vehicular homicide as well? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-27-11 09:48 PM |
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Yeah. And there will be tons of accidental deaths by car. But driving a car actually |
applegrove |
Feb-27-11 09:55 PM |
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You dont need a car. Ride a bike or a horse. Need is a short list. |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-27-11 10:01 PM |
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Self-defense is not a "function"? Hunting for food is not a "function"? |
PavePusher |
Feb-27-11 10:28 PM |
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You don't "need" a car either. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 12:54 AM |
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Feb-27-11 09:50 PM |
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You have it reversed. the stats back ccw, you know 10 years and millions of people |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-27-11 09:53 PM |
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Pro lifers won't quit. Anti gun advocates won't either. |
sharesunited |
Feb-27-11 11:15 PM |
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So you acknowlegde that the camp you identify with is anti-rights at it's core values? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-28-11 12:37 AM |
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Are you REALLY comparing yourself to pro-lifers? REALLY? |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 12:55 AM |
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Although I don't agree with them, I fully understand that they take a longer term view. |
sharesunited |
Feb-28-11 10:37 PM |
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I would say... |
beevul |
Feb-28-11 05:02 AM |
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Feb-27-11 10:06 PM |
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More bigots trying to disparage gun owners and civil rights. |
lawodevolution |
Feb-27-11 10:21 PM |
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You love blanket smears that are insulting AND against DU rules? |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 12:56 AM |
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Oh, should I include ALL alcohol related deaths then? |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 12:53 AM |
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I can't get to work riding a gun... |
provis99 |
Feb-27-11 09:50 PM |
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But you can drink a pint of aristocrat on the way in your car. But you dont.. |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-27-11 09:55 PM |
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Take a look at these numbers. This was accomplished by punishing criminals |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-27-11 09:50 PM |
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366 deaths more due to drunk driving and guns are not a problem? |
Iris |
Feb-27-11 09:51 PM |
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Nope, hey lets ban alcohol I bet that will fix everything. |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-27-11 09:54 PM |
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And according to the CDC smoking kills about 400,000. |
virgogal |
Feb-27-11 09:51 PM |
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Yep |
lawodevolution |
Feb-27-11 10:23 PM |
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100 % correct. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 12:57 AM |
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how many |
MyrnaLoy |
Feb-27-11 10:06 PM |
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One death is less heinous than another? |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 12:58 AM |
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So |
MyrnaLoy |
Feb-28-11 02:18 AM |
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So |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 09:15 AM |
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guess that means |
MyrnaLoy |
Feb-28-11 05:22 PM |
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Guess that means |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 07:05 PM |
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You're right |
SecularMotion |
Feb-27-11 10:08 PM |
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Oh LOL.. |
X_Digger |
Feb-27-11 10:11 PM |
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LOL, You're link doesn't dispute that gun violence happens in homes |
SecularMotion |
Feb-27-11 10:18 PM |
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That's one point, yes.. |
X_Digger |
Feb-27-11 10:25 PM |
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They are only a risk if you exclude anyone who has ever used a gun in self defense |
Taitertots |
Feb-27-11 10:26 PM |
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I posted the link to show that much gun violence occurs in homes as opposed to the streets |
SecularMotion |
Feb-27-11 10:34 PM |
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You do realize that story was 1993 |
rl6214 |
Feb-27-11 10:38 PM |
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! KELLERMAN? REALLY? |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 12:59 AM |
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See post #26 |
SecularMotion |
Feb-28-11 05:56 AM |
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Fail. Again. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 09:17 AM |
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Let me walk you through this slowly |
SecularMotion |
Feb-28-11 09:32 AM |
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Let me walk YOU through this slowly. You posted a flawed and debunked study. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 10:47 AM |
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Feb-28-11 11:02 AM |
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The study may be flawed to support the argument |
SecularMotion |
Feb-28-11 03:54 PM |
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It was the very claim you made. n/t |
PavePusher |
Feb-28-11 04:09 PM |
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Where? |
SecularMotion |
Feb-28-11 04:16 PM |
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Did I misinterpret your point here: |
PavePusher |
Feb-28-11 05:56 PM |
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Yes, you did misinterpret it - Please read post #51 n/t |
SecularMotion |
Feb-28-11 06:45 PM |
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That's EXACTLY what you claimed! |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 06:58 PM |
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This is the last time I walk you through this |
SecularMotion |
Feb-28-11 07:14 PM |
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We are in agreement. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 10:24 PM |
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Also, there are over 7 thousand deaths from drowning in the US each year. |
old mark |
Feb-27-11 11:17 PM |
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Equally ridiculous rates of unnecessary deaths. |
mcranor |
Feb-28-11 01:42 AM |
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As shown in the O.P. . . Not equal. n/t |
Hoopla Phil |
Feb-28-11 01:46 AM |
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See what I mean about the quibbly distraction thingie? |
mcranor |
Feb-28-11 01:53 AM |
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That's the wonderful thing about math. It is either equal or it is not. It really is that simple |
Hoopla Phil |
Feb-28-11 01:55 AM |
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Math may be harder than you think |
mcranor |
Feb-28-11 02:06 AM |
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Number of people killed BY guns, 0; number of people killed WITH guns, ~30K/year |
Euromutt |
Feb-28-11 11:12 PM |
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Okay, so let's have laws that say that no gun can leave the house without proof of mandatory |
enough |
Feb-28-11 06:47 AM |
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you could use the 250,000 dead iraqis |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-28-11 06:56 AM |
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One does not need insurance to exercise a Constitutional right. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 09:19 AM |
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People HAVE to drive. No need for guns. Wow is this a stupid post. |
KansasVoter |
Feb-28-11 04:48 PM |
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Totally false, but you are right about one thing... |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 07:01 PM |
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Wow, that was clever. |
KansasVoter |
Feb-28-11 09:06 PM |
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Thanks. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-28-11 10:25 PM |
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And ultimately, people may HAVE to defend themselves against criminal assault |
Euromutt |
Feb-28-11 11:32 PM |
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