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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-11 04:00 PM
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56. Reality proves that you are wrong
There are more guns than ever before in more places than ever before and crime is infrequent and getting less frequent.
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  -Man had gun in mall fight, cops say jpak  Feb-25-11 11:49 AM   #0 
  - He broke the cardinal rule...never bring a mall to a gun fight.  MrCoffee   Feb-25-11 11:51 AM   #1 
  - I must have missed the part where Escobar had a CCW permit  DonP   Feb-25-11 11:57 AM   #2 
  - I'm sure this man was carrying legally and a fine citizen.  Ken_Fish   Feb-25-11 11:57 AM   #3 
  - Too funny.....  Spoonman   Feb-25-11 11:58 AM   #4 
  - +1  RamboLiberal   Feb-25-11 12:02 PM   #5 
  - Nobody is saying you have to give up your constitutional rights  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 12:25 PM   #12 
     - I beg to differ  Spoonman   Feb-25-11 12:39 PM   #14 
     - Amending the constitution is constitutional  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 12:45 PM   #17 
        - I'll be more than happy to compare brain pans on constitutional law  Spoonman   Feb-25-11 01:30 PM   #20 
        - Wrong  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 06:01 PM   #24 
        - Present a false dichotomy...  Callisto32   Feb-26-11 05:48 AM   #43 
           - Hey, keep the safety on  Starboard Tack   Feb-26-11 11:48 AM   #50 
     - Please explain how me giving us legally carrying a gun...  GreenStormCloud   Feb-25-11 12:44 PM   #16 
     - It won't and I never said it would.  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 01:23 PM   #18 
        - And if guns turned into food, we could feed america!  X_Digger   Feb-25-11 01:39 PM   #22 
        - Your problem is you assume that the bad guys will give them up.  GreenStormCloud   Feb-25-11 06:40 PM   #26 
        - What happens when the good guys become the bad guys?  Starboard Tack   Feb-26-11 11:39 AM   #49 
           - The same thing that happens when "responsible" people drink to much and murder people with cars..  Ken_Fish   Feb-26-11 12:26 PM   #53 
           - Good point. It is illegal to drink and drive  Starboard Tack   Feb-26-11 01:28 PM   #54 
              - Yes, it is. n/t  X_Digger   Feb-26-11 03:03 PM   #55 
              - Yes, in my state it is. Either way, a bad idea IMHO(nt)  Ken_Fish   Feb-26-11 05:42 PM   #57 
              - It's certainly illegal to carry while legally "under the influence"  Euromutt   Feb-26-11 06:27 PM   #60 
           - For your perusal: "The Myth of the 'Virgin Killer'"  Euromutt   Feb-26-11 06:19 PM   #59 
        - You know  guitar man   Feb-25-11 10:07 PM   #37 
        - That certainly was what you seemed to be saying  Euromutt   Feb-26-11 08:47 AM   #47 
     - Criminals first.  PavePusher   Feb-25-11 08:58 PM   #34 
  - Thanksgiving dinner must be a hoot in that family  JustABozoOnThisBus   Feb-25-11 12:02 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-25-11 12:10 PM   #7 
  - Isn't this a flame? nt.  ThatPoetGuy   Feb-25-11 12:35 PM   #13 
  - If only we could get all the guns off the street, there would be no more mall fights. n/t  hughee99   Feb-25-11 12:13 PM   #8 
  - If we closed all the malls, there would be no more mall fights  Euromutt   Feb-26-11 05:23 AM   #41 
  - Interesting how the unarmed brother in law took him down  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 12:19 PM   #9 
  - That great. Not relevant to a ccw I hold or the other millions of them out there  Ken_Fish   Feb-25-11 12:21 PM   #10 
  - That's because Escobar was bluffing. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Feb-25-11 12:42 PM   #15 
  - That nobody got hurt is AWESOME.  Callisto32   Feb-26-11 05:51 AM   #44 
  - Another criminal with a gun. Yup. Nothing to do with CCW permit holders. Yup.  Atypical Liberal   Feb-25-11 12:22 PM   #11 
  - The example being made was not Escobar, but Mutt  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 01:28 PM   #19 
  - Less than 10% of 303,821,226 who DON'T carry in public have ever been involved in a crime either.  Hoyt   Feb-25-11 01:39 PM   #21 
     - And consequently, no laws are being proposed to affect those people, either.  Atypical Liberal   Feb-25-11 02:01 PM   #23 
     - In what way is society harmed by such people walking around  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 06:35 PM   #25 
        - Your being nervous is not really a justification for anything.  Atypical Liberal   Feb-25-11 06:56 PM   #29 
        - Yes, but permit or not people are carrying in public  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 07:42 PM   #30 
           - No, that's *any* crime.. not specifically a shooting.  X_Digger   Feb-25-11 08:46 PM   #32 
           - Your math needs LOTS of work.  GreenStormCloud   Feb-25-11 09:00 PM   #35 
           - Paper never refuses ink. Sorry, Im usually quite good at numbers  Starboard Tack   Feb-26-11 11:55 AM   #51 
           - "unnerving"  Atypical Liberal   Feb-25-11 10:07 PM   #36 
           - If most of those incidents were  armueller2001   Feb-26-11 06:40 AM   #45 
           - You are correct. I was giving you a freebie there.  Starboard Tack   Feb-26-11 11:59 AM   #52 
           - That is 25 out of every 100000 commit ANY crime  pipoman   Feb-26-11 07:08 AM   #46 
        - Why do you think a concealed carry holder wants to be  rl6214   Feb-25-11 10:29 PM   #40 
     - My wife has protected herself with her carry gun on a public street.  GreenStormCloud   Feb-25-11 06:43 PM   #28 
        - I never said self-defense against violent crime doesn't happen  Starboard Tack   Feb-25-11 07:56 PM   #31 
           - Let's take a look at those alternatives.  GreenStormCloud   Feb-25-11 08:50 PM   #33 
           - Tueller drill  Atypical Liberal   Feb-25-11 10:21 PM   #39 
           - Much depends on mindset and training.  PavePusher   Feb-26-11 05:56 PM   #58 
  - And, because it's NJ, there's effectively no such thing as legal concealed carry  Kennah   Feb-25-11 06:41 PM   #27 
  - "the more guns republics put out in the street "  rl6214   Feb-25-11 10:20 PM   #38 
  - Grammar/syntax fail.  Callisto32   Feb-26-11 05:46 AM   #42 
  - Which is why future gun control should focus on those who carry illegally ...  spin   Feb-26-11 11:35 AM   #48 
  - Reality proves that you are wrong  Taitertots   Feb-26-11 04:00 PM   #56 

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