Taitertots
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Sat Feb-26-11 04:00 PM
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| 56. Reality proves that you are wrong |
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There are more guns than ever before in more places than ever before and crime is infrequent and getting less frequent.
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| -Man had gun in mall fight, cops say |
jpak |
Feb-25-11 11:49 AM |
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He broke the cardinal rule...never bring a mall to a gun fight. |
MrCoffee |
Feb-25-11 11:51 AM |
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I must have missed the part where Escobar had a CCW permit |
DonP |
Feb-25-11 11:57 AM |
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I'm sure this man was carrying legally and a fine citizen. |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-25-11 11:57 AM |
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Too funny..... |
Spoonman |
Feb-25-11 11:58 AM |
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+1 |
RamboLiberal |
Feb-25-11 12:02 PM |
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Nobody is saying you have to give up your constitutional rights |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 12:25 PM |
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I beg to differ |
Spoonman |
Feb-25-11 12:39 PM |
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Amending the constitution is constitutional |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 12:45 PM |
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I'll be more than happy to compare brain pans on constitutional law |
Spoonman |
Feb-25-11 01:30 PM |
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Wrong |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 06:01 PM |
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Present a false dichotomy... |
Callisto32 |
Feb-26-11 05:48 AM |
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Hey, keep the safety on |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-26-11 11:48 AM |
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Please explain how me giving us legally carrying a gun... |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-25-11 12:44 PM |
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It won't and I never said it would. |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 01:23 PM |
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And if guns turned into food, we could feed america! |
X_Digger |
Feb-25-11 01:39 PM |
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Your problem is you assume that the bad guys will give them up. |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-25-11 06:40 PM |
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What happens when the good guys become the bad guys? |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-26-11 11:39 AM |
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The same thing that happens when "responsible" people drink to much and murder people with cars.. |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-26-11 12:26 PM |
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Good point. It is illegal to drink and drive |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-26-11 01:28 PM |
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Yes, it is. n/t |
X_Digger |
Feb-26-11 03:03 PM |
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Yes, in my state it is. Either way, a bad idea IMHO(nt) |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-26-11 05:42 PM |
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It's certainly illegal to carry while legally "under the influence" |
Euromutt |
Feb-26-11 06:27 PM |
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For your perusal: "The Myth of the 'Virgin Killer'" |
Euromutt |
Feb-26-11 06:19 PM |
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You know |
guitar man |
Feb-25-11 10:07 PM |
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That certainly was what you seemed to be saying |
Euromutt |
Feb-26-11 08:47 AM |
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Criminals first. |
PavePusher |
Feb-25-11 08:58 PM |
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Thanksgiving dinner must be a hoot in that family |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Feb-25-11 12:02 PM |
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Feb-25-11 12:10 PM |
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Isn't this a flame? nt. |
ThatPoetGuy |
Feb-25-11 12:35 PM |
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If only we could get all the guns off the street, there would be no more mall fights. n/t |
hughee99 |
Feb-25-11 12:13 PM |
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If we closed all the malls, there would be no more mall fights |
Euromutt |
Feb-26-11 05:23 AM |
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Interesting how the unarmed brother in law took him down |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 12:19 PM |
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That great. Not relevant to a ccw I hold or the other millions of them out there |
Ken_Fish |
Feb-25-11 12:21 PM |
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That's because Escobar was bluffing. N/T |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-25-11 12:42 PM |
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That nobody got hurt is AWESOME. |
Callisto32 |
Feb-26-11 05:51 AM |
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Another criminal with a gun. Yup. Nothing to do with CCW permit holders. Yup. |
Atypical Liberal |
Feb-25-11 12:22 PM |
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The example being made was not Escobar, but Mutt |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 01:28 PM |
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Less than 10% of 303,821,226 who DON'T carry in public have ever been involved in a crime either. |
Hoyt |
Feb-25-11 01:39 PM |
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And consequently, no laws are being proposed to affect those people, either. |
Atypical Liberal |
Feb-25-11 02:01 PM |
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In what way is society harmed by such people walking around |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 06:35 PM |
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Your being nervous is not really a justification for anything. |
Atypical Liberal |
Feb-25-11 06:56 PM |
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Yes, but permit or not people are carrying in public |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 07:42 PM |
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No, that's *any* crime.. not specifically a shooting. |
X_Digger |
Feb-25-11 08:46 PM |
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Your math needs LOTS of work. |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-25-11 09:00 PM |
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Paper never refuses ink. Sorry, Im usually quite good at numbers |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-26-11 11:55 AM |
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"unnerving" |
Atypical Liberal |
Feb-25-11 10:07 PM |
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If most of those incidents were |
armueller2001 |
Feb-26-11 06:40 AM |
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You are correct. I was giving you a freebie there. |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-26-11 11:59 AM |
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That is 25 out of every 100000 commit ANY crime |
pipoman |
Feb-26-11 07:08 AM |
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Why do you think a concealed carry holder wants to be |
rl6214 |
Feb-25-11 10:29 PM |
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My wife has protected herself with her carry gun on a public street. |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-25-11 06:43 PM |
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I never said self-defense against violent crime doesn't happen |
Starboard Tack |
Feb-25-11 07:56 PM |
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Let's take a look at those alternatives. |
GreenStormCloud |
Feb-25-11 08:50 PM |
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Tueller drill |
Atypical Liberal |
Feb-25-11 10:21 PM |
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Much depends on mindset and training. |
PavePusher |
Feb-26-11 05:56 PM |
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And, because it's NJ, there's effectively no such thing as legal concealed carry |
Kennah |
Feb-25-11 06:41 PM |
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"the more guns republics put out in the street " |
rl6214 |
Feb-25-11 10:20 PM |
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Grammar/syntax fail. |
Callisto32 |
Feb-26-11 05:46 AM |
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Which is why future gun control should focus on those who carry illegally ... |
spin |
Feb-26-11 11:35 AM |
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Reality proves that you are wrong |
Taitertots |
Feb-26-11 04:00 PM |
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