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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. Item five
All of the "security team" at New Life Church are volunteer parishoners. Assam was a cop in Minneapolis and after the shooting in Palmer Lake (Colorado). She was laid off from the Palmer Lake PD (where she was very likely 25% of the cops in town) a year or so back. No explanation for her dismissal was ever made public

They guy that targeted New Life Church did so specifically because they were affiliated W/ Youth w/a mission
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  -Gun rights group to appeal ruling against guns in church (GA) jpak  Feb-13-11 12:33 PM   #0 
  - Wouldn't you agree it should be up to the individual  armueller2001   Feb-13-11 12:35 PM   #1 
  - Ya' know, it's legal to chew tobacco in church but what kinda asshole  flamin lib   Feb-13-11 01:02 PM   #12 
  - In this case, the pastor.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 04:57 PM   #56 
     - Ah question answered, That asshole. nt  flamin lib   Feb-13-11 09:55 PM   #95 
  - If they banned them - would respect that ban? - or would you carry anyway?  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:04 PM   #13 
     - I don't carry in places where it is illegal ...  spin   Feb-13-11 01:21 PM   #19 
        - Sounds like a barrel of fun - gotta keep an eye on the bridesmaids  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:39 PM   #25 
           - The last wedding I attended was for a local police officer and a lady ...  spin   Feb-13-11 02:20 PM   #41 
              - So, with all those armed law enforcement officers present - why did you need to carry?  jpak   Feb-13-11 04:12 PM   #49 
                 - So why do you "need"  Porterhouse   Feb-13-11 04:31 PM   #53 
                 - I'd like to know - tough shit if you don't like that  jpak   Feb-13-11 04:40 PM   #54 
                    - You have no right to know  Porterhouse   Feb-13-11 04:42 PM   #55 
                       - I have a right to know who is carrying a gun at my workplace, church and other public places  jpak   Feb-13-11 04:59 PM   #58 
                          - Cite any such law please.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:00 PM   #60 
                          - Show me where in the Constitution or the BoR  Porterhouse   Feb-13-11 05:02 PM   #61 
                          - 9th and 10th Amendments  jpak   Feb-13-11 05:24 PM   #67 
                             - Where does it say you have the right  Porterhouse   Feb-13-11 05:27 PM   #68 
                             - Did you read those amendments?  jpak   Feb-13-11 05:30 PM   #69 
                                - So what does that got to do  Porterhouse   Feb-13-11 05:37 PM   #70 
                                   - They mean that I have rights not specified in the Constitution  jpak   Feb-13-11 05:41 PM   #71 
                                   - What court has specifically codified that unenumerated right?  X_Digger   Feb-13-11 05:43 PM   #74 
                                   - No, you don't  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 05:43 PM   #75 
                                   - You really need to take a history class  Porterhouse   Feb-13-11 05:48 PM   #79 
                                   - Does that mean we have a right not to be faced with your BS  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 05:52 PM   #80 
                                   - Does your right to know who is carrying  RSillsbee   Feb-13-11 06:48 PM   #84 
                                   - Wow. It's actually not even worth following this line of logic.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-14-11 02:34 AM   #99 
                                   - Wow, I was responding to the  texshelters   Feb-14-11 12:03 PM   #109 
                             - No, you don't  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 05:43 PM   #73 
                             - Nope. 2nd amendment is incorporated against the states, and you should review the 1986 Firearms Owne  AtheistCrusader   Feb-14-11 02:33 AM   #98 
                             - No; you can't claim any old made-up "right" and invoke the Ninth  Euromutt   Feb-14-11 07:52 PM   #122 
                          - No, you don't.  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 05:42 PM   #72 
                             - WTF I happen to want at the moment  Katya Mullethov   Feb-14-11 06:52 PM   #120 
                 - Probably because it would be kidnapping to carry one of the officers home over his shoulder.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 04:58 PM   #57 
                 - I always carry ... that's why I got a concealed weapons permit.  spin   Feb-13-11 06:32 PM   #82 
                 - Easy.  Atypical Liberal   Feb-14-11 11:39 AM   #107 
                 - Need has nothing to do with it.  57_TomCat   Feb-14-11 02:49 PM   #117 
  - Churches have been targets of crime.  PavePusher   Feb-13-11 12:36 PM   #2 
  - Data please!!!! nt  flamin lib   Feb-13-11 12:58 PM   #10 
     - sure  YllwFvr   Feb-13-11 02:23 PM   # 
     - Here she is.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:00 PM   #59 
     - thanks! nt  YllwFvr   Feb-13-11 05:03 PM   #63 
     - She wasn't shot and she didn't kill him  RSillsbee   Feb-13-11 06:53 PM   #85 
        - Sorry, yes. That does jive with my recollection of the news reports at the time.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 08:41 PM   #93 
     - Not too bad a try. Shootings do happen in churches, but  flamin lib   Feb-13-11 09:49 PM   #94 
        - Item five  RSillsbee   Feb-13-11 11:20 PM   #96 
        - Okay, I'll give you one out of five examples . How does that stack up against 450,000  flamin lib   Feb-14-11 10:40 AM   #102 
        - Well, when people target CHURCHES, they usually employ fire.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-14-11 02:31 AM   #97 
     - Ok, but remember you asked...  beevul   Feb-13-11 05:54 PM   #81 
        - And I got nothin'. nt  flamin lib   Feb-14-11 10:42 AM   #103 
           - Here are some.. (some are dupes of the ones abvove)..  X_Digger   Feb-14-11 11:00 AM   #104 
              - Same as before. Ya' go back 12 years and come up with 23 examples  flamin lib   Feb-14-11 11:27 AM   #105 
                 - And your mind is made up not to believe anything posted by a  shadowrider   Feb-14-11 11:29 AM   #106 
                 - No, not so. nt  flamin lib   Feb-14-11 02:28 PM   #114 
                 - All I did was provide you with a list..  X_Digger   Feb-14-11 12:05 PM   #110 
                    - I'm agnostic about RBKA. Frankly don't really give a shit either way.  flamin lib   Feb-14-11 02:39 PM   #115 
                       - LOL I think that's the first post of yours I fully agree with n/t  shadowrider   Feb-14-11 02:46 PM   #116 
                       - Happy Anniversary to you and your SO, n/t  X_Digger   Feb-14-11 02:53 PM   #118 
  - Just one question.  LAGC   Feb-13-11 12:36 PM   #3 
  - Roeder ambushed Tiller and shot him from behind - gun coward that he is  jpak   Feb-13-11 12:46 PM   #5 
     - YAY! You could have charged Roeder with an additional misdemeanor offense.  LAGC   Feb-13-11 12:50 PM   #7 
  - There's just something about a bunch of armed toters sitting in church that ought to offend folks.  Hoyt   Feb-13-11 12:41 PM   #4 
  - WWJD?  jpak   Feb-13-11 12:46 PM   #6 
  - No. Bypass your imagination and ask yourself: What did Jesus TEACH?  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 01:10 PM   #14 
  - Yeah - that Jesus - what a swashbuckling sword/gun carrying shoot-from-the-hip guy he was  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:17 PM   #16 
     - Don't like facts and evidence, so you resort to misrepresentation and mockery?  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 01:21 PM   #18 
  - What would Jello do?  texshelters   Feb-13-11 01:53 PM   #31 
  - He's the one WWJD  texshelters   Feb-13-11 02:00 PM   #34 
  - Remain passive and unarmed while being tortured to death over a period of days?  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:23 PM   #65 
  - Your posts offend people who respect the human right to the means of self defense  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 12:53 PM   #8 
  - This is a discussion board - not an echo chamber  jpak   Feb-13-11 12:55 PM   #9 
  - Don't like American laws and what the law will be even in Georgia after appeal?  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 01:14 PM   #15 
  - Other countries, like Canada? - I like their approach to guns - not much gun crime up there  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:19 PM   #17 
     - Bye. Have a safe trip. Don't bother coming back.  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 01:24 PM   #21 
     - I'm staying right here  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:36 PM   #24 
        - Well then you'll live among people who have the right to keep arms and to carry them in public.  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 01:46 PM   #26 
           - Laws that restrict where and when you can carry a gun are NOT unconstitutional  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:49 PM   #27 
              - That depends on what they say. Even an extremist like you MIGHT  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 02:04 PM   #35 
              - I am not an extremist - the extremists want guns everywhere - schools, churches, bars & workplaces  jpak   Feb-13-11 02:07 PM   #37 
                 - So, for the record, was the DC law unconstitutional? n/t  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 02:15 PM   #40 
                    - Any law can be declared unconstitutional - but it doesn't make all similar laws unconstitutional  jpak   Feb-13-11 02:23 PM   #42 
                       - So you support laws banning carrying an UNLOADED gun between rooms IN YOUR OWN HOUSE!!!  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 02:35 PM   #43 
                       - Did I say that?  jpak   Feb-13-11 03:49 PM   #44 
                          - You supported the law by condemning those who overthrew it:  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 04:09 PM   #48 
                             - Jesus is crying harder now  jpak   Feb-13-11 04:14 PM   #50 
                                - How does dust cry?  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:24 PM   #66 
                       - Snap Quiz  Porterhouse   Feb-13-11 04:06 PM   #47 
              - Yes, they are.  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 05:47 PM   #77 
     - I suggest you avoid  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:05 PM   #64 
  - If it's not an echo chamber  texshelters   Feb-14-11 12:01 PM   #108 
  - Yeah, Jesus was a regular Rambo  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:23 PM   #20 
  - Answer the right posts, would you?  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 01:28 PM   #22 
     - Yeah - them papists and their popery! - the silly heretics!  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:35 PM   #23 
        - Actually, the Catholic church believes the record of Luke. The "heretic" who exalts  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 01:51 PM   #29 
           - The pope turmed into a newt!  jpak   Feb-13-11 01:53 PM   #32 
              - Grow up. n/t  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 02:05 PM   #36 
                 - nope  jpak   Feb-13-11 02:07 PM   #38 
  - Your post offends people who  texshelters   Feb-13-11 01:54 PM   #33 
     - They are welcome to their offense.  TPaine7   Feb-13-11 02:12 PM   #39 
  - Such as?  ManiacJoe   Feb-13-11 01:00 PM   #11 
  - As an atheist, can I ask you to elaborate on that?  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:03 PM   #62 
  - You can ask, though don't expect an answer  Euromutt   Feb-14-11 08:03 PM   #123 
  - There's just something about a biased, unsubsatntiated article on HuffPo that ought to offend people  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 05:45 PM   #76 
  - I can't pray to Jesus  texshelters   Feb-13-11 01:51 PM   #28 
  - In states where carrying guns is legal in churches, they can still ban guns with signs and...  aikoaiko   Feb-13-11 04:26 PM   #51 
     - True, Thanks  texshelters   Feb-14-11 12:06 PM   #111 
        - Correct me if I'm wrong... But the link you provided is summed up as follows...  Glassunion   Feb-14-11 12:21 PM   #112 
        - That was a city government, not a private property owner  Euromutt   Feb-14-11 06:45 PM   #119 
  - It's a tough call  saras   Feb-13-11 01:53 PM   #30 
  - Historically, churches were often the rallying point of the local militias.  PavePusher   Feb-13-11 03:57 PM   #45 
  - It's what's behind the New England Puritan tradition of the men leaving service first  Euromutt   Feb-14-11 08:07 PM   #124 
     - Also,most local Militia met to practice on Sunday afternoon.  oneshooter   Feb-14-11 08:36 PM   #125 
  - P.S. Churches of many denominations have had to organise to defend themselves...  PavePusher   Feb-13-11 04:00 PM   #46 
     - Like your buddy David Koresh?  Kolesar   Feb-13-11 07:39 PM   #87 
        - Not my buddy.  PavePusher   Feb-13-11 08:25 PM   #90 
        - That was just business  Katya Mullethov   Feb-14-11 07:28 PM   #121 
        - More like "The Deacons for Defense and Justice".  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-13-11 08:33 PM   #91 
  - This prohibition clearly violates the spirit of religious freedom and the right to assemble.  aikoaiko   Feb-13-11 04:28 PM   #52 
  - Get used to it. Gun rights have never been stronger and there is no chance of them being weakened.  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 05:48 PM   #78 
     - Yup. Yup. Yup. (n/t)  spin   Feb-13-11 06:33 PM   #83 
     - because the republicans have figured out how to exploit the assholes  Kolesar   Feb-13-11 07:37 PM   #86 
        - And Democrats keep taking the bait. (n/t)  LAGC   Feb-13-11 07:43 PM   #88 
        - Correct, and Dems keep swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 08:16 PM   #89 
           - And then we get Republicans and no gun control.  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-13-11 08:37 PM   #92 
              - You want NO gun control?  Kolesar   Feb-14-11 05:31 AM   #100 
                 - Registration is illegal at the Federal level now NT  RSillsbee   Feb-14-11 05:42 AM   #101 
                 - My bad- I should have said "no ADDITIONAL gun control"  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-14-11 12:52 PM   #113 
 

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