SDuderstadt
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Sun Feb-13-11 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
| 89. This is getting beyond... |
| -Police: Man kills 4 in stabbing rampage across NYC (Not having a gun didn't stop this madman) |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 08:44 AM |
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How many more could he have easily killed... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 08:55 AM |
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4 isn't enough? |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 08:56 AM |
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As usual... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:00 AM |
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As do you. |
cleanhippie |
Feb-13-11 05:52 PM |
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missed the point- in Times Square? It could have been dozens in a few minutes |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 09:09 AM |
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Did you respond to the wrong post? n/t |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 09:11 AM |
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No, your flip suggestion about "4 being enough"is offensive to those |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 09:52 AM |
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The point being, sans guns, a madman will find a way to kill. |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 09:55 AM |
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You don't think he could have killed far more people... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:00 AM |
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of course he knows. that's why he is laughably suggesting that four was the end all of horrors |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 10:26 AM |
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And I repeat, 4 ISN'T a massacre? What is YOUR definition? |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 10:34 AM |
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in Times Square the potential was for dozens, why ignore or dispute that? |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 11:02 AM |
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But it didn't. I could say the "potential" exists for someone to blow up |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 11:43 AM |
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Do you seriously deny that he... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:48 AM |
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I'm not arguing anything. The fact is, he DIDN'T use a gun so your |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 11:51 AM |
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Bullshit... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:53 AM |
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bullshit. we are talking about a man w/ weapon in Times Square, YOU are desperate to get off topic |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 12:08 PM |
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Not if he had a gun with only a few bullets. |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-13-11 10:20 PM |
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This is getting beyond... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:36 PM |
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It got way beyond stupid when you started all this nonsense. |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-13-11 10:39 PM |
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You guys can flip words around all you want... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:42 PM |
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no, the post you responded to was that it could have been much worse w a gun -so many more people... |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 10:24 AM |
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Not allowed to make that argument |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 09:01 AM |
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Bullshit...n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:02 AM |
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Some guy whips out a knife in a crowded bathroom on a Friday night. |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 09:12 AM |
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Except people would hear gunshots... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:14 AM |
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Do you deny the potential for an attack as I described exists? n/t |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 09:18 AM |
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No... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:19 AM |
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Okay, then, the potential exits. |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 09:22 AM |
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Stupid question...n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:25 AM |
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Okay, as long as you are thoroughly berated at the next mass stabbing n/t |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 09:27 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:32 AM |
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hundreds of millions of guns in America, of which one or two... |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 09:37 AM |
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See my previous reply... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:39 AM |
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"of which one or two might be used in a mass casualty event per year" |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:21 AM |
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Define "mass casualty event", YOUR definition. How many killed |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 10:22 AM |
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Why don't you ask the guy who made... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:27 AM |
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You said his statement was total fabrication. I'm asking YOU to define |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 10:35 AM |
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Upthread you questioned why four deaths would not be a... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:39 AM |
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I never said 4 isn't a massacre. I asked why 4 deaths isn't enough |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 10:43 AM |
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I don't recall anyone here... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:45 AM |
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enough for what? outrage? you want outrageous? here you go: |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 12:11 PM |
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Here's the list for 2010... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:00 AM |
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You are refusing to give your opinion. Gotcha. n/t |
shadowrider |
Feb-13-11 11:02 AM |
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I just provided the list in which... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:05 AM |
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The link above downloads a... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:45 AM |
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Do you have a link that works? |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 05:29 PM |
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Post # 45...n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 06:19 PM |
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99.875% of guns are NOT used in any shooting.. |
X_Digger |
Feb-13-11 11:56 AM |
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Nigeria beat that with just one mass macheteing event |
lawodevolution |
Feb-13-11 05:37 PM |
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Do you understand the meaning and... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 05:40 PM |
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Fact is people have used blades to kill many people without having to use firearms |
lawodevolution |
Feb-14-11 11:21 AM |
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How do you define "mass casualty event"? |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 10:16 PM |
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LOL... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:52 PM |
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I noticed you didn't answer the question. |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 11:11 PM |
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The numbers you give do not match the criteria you selected |
krispos42 |
Feb-14-11 09:57 PM |
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one or two? LOL, Are you really THAT out of the loop? If so, some facts for u here" |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 12:35 PM |
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Two mass shootings |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 10:45 PM |
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I was discussing four- just like the OP. And there's a whole lot of them, huh? |
bettyellen |
Feb-13-11 11:20 PM |
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There are several with four or more killed |
krispos42 |
Feb-14-11 10:04 PM |
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So... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-14-11 12:27 AM |
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I'm still waiting for a definition of "massacre" from you. |
krispos42 |
Feb-14-11 08:42 AM |
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I'll go with the criminologists... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-14-11 09:22 AM |
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Okay, four. Now we have a basis for comparison |
krispos42 |
Feb-14-11 09:16 PM |
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Stupid either/or argument... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-14-11 09:43 PM |
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I look at the subject line of the OP. |
krispos42 |
Feb-14-11 10:10 PM |
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Now you're playing word games around... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-14-11 10:21 PM |
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Yanno what, I think I made a mistake before |
krispos42 |
Feb-14-11 11:12 PM |
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I TOLD you... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-14-11 11:21 PM |
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Misleading chart title... |
krispos42 |
Feb-15-11 12:07 AM |
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"Fact" "always" "certain" |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-13-11 10:22 PM |
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I know precisely what... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:57 PM |
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Okay, we'll add "precisely" to the list, |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-13-11 11:36 PM |
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Too funny... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-14-11 12:23 AM |
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How many more could have been killed |
Libertarian_Mike |
Feb-13-11 09:33 AM |
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See posts #... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 09:38 AM |
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In japan, a guy killed 7 people and injured 19 with a knife. That's worse than the arizona shooting. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 11:15 AM |
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How many do you think the guy in Japan... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:18 AM |
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Maybe fewer... guns are loud and alerted people might run. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-13-11 12:15 PM |
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"it is impossible to say what could have been" |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 12:18 PM |
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Possibly more, possibly less. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 04:09 PM |
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Of course... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 04:31 PM |
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Possibly yes. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 04:51 PM |
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Oh, please... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 04:55 PM |
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I already cited one. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 05:07 PM |
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I said... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 05:12 PM |
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It's impossible to know. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 05:14 PM |
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It is not, dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 05:23 PM |
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Call it flailing about all you want. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 05:26 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 05:35 PM |
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I cannot even describe Loughner's scenario. |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-13-11 06:40 PM |
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A person with a knife... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 06:48 PM |
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A person with a gun |
AtheistCrusader |
Feb-14-11 02:30 AM |
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Dunno. Does he even know how to shoot a gun? |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-13-11 10:26 PM |
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Probably less because guns make a lot of noise and he would have been caught sooner |
lawodevolution |
Feb-13-11 05:30 PM |
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Bullshit... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 05:38 PM |
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The largest nongovernment run mass killing in recent history involves bladed weapons |
lawodevolution |
Feb-14-11 11:19 AM |
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Irrelevant; the guy killed as many people as he wanted |
Euromutt |
Feb-15-11 02:35 AM |
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Obviously, all knives must be segmented |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 08:58 AM |
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Nobody needs to |
Katya Mullethov |
Feb-13-11 10:41 AM |
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Perhaps a waiting period, then? And a one-knife-per-month policy? |
krispos42 |
Feb-13-11 09:56 PM |
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Do you know any retired volunteer fireman that hunt ? |
Katya Mullethov |
Feb-14-11 10:25 AM |
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I'll take a guy with a knife ANYTIME over a gun. So would Gabby and her victims! Dumb argument! |
KansasVoter |
Feb-13-11 11:35 AM |
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Isn't it? |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:38 AM |
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If he is close enough to use it, he is too close to miss. n/t |
oneshooter |
Feb-13-11 11:40 AM |
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Which is why I'd... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 11:52 AM |
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Except trying to hit the target. |
Blown330 |
Feb-13-11 05:42 PM |
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You have no idea what... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 05:44 PM |
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And you... |
Blown330 |
Feb-13-11 05:56 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 06:07 PM |
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DUDE |
rl6214 |
Feb-13-11 10:17 PM |
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Dude! |
Common Sense Party |
Feb-13-11 10:50 PM |
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You might regret that choice. |
one-eyed fat man |
Feb-14-11 12:20 PM |
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This isn't possible. It's relatively easy to disarm someone with a knife. Ask around. n/t |
shadowrider |
Feb-14-11 02:15 PM |
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The lowly icepick |
one-eyed fat man |
Feb-14-11 10:30 PM |
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A knife is a very stealthy weapon. A guy can stab multiple people before anyone even figures out |
lawodevolution |
Feb-13-11 05:54 PM |
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More bullshit... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 06:11 PM |
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why don't you tell us why... |
Blown330 |
Feb-13-11 06:17 PM |
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Nice strawman, dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 06:23 PM |
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Like I wrote before, it's because the anti gun side spreads around the idea guns |
lawodevolution |
Feb-14-11 11:29 AM |
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After trying to follow all the totally illogical... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-13-11 10:48 PM |
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For personal defense... |
57_TomCat |
Feb-14-11 02:17 PM |
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Thank you for your service. As a side note |
shadowrider |
Feb-14-11 02:20 PM |
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