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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 09:09 AM
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7. missed the point- in Times Square? It could have been dozens in a few minutes
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 09:09 AM by bettyellen
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  -Police: Man kills 4 in stabbing rampage across NYC (Not having a gun didn't stop this madman) shadowrider  Feb-13-11 08:44 AM   #0 
  - How many more could he have easily killed...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 08:55 AM   #1 
  - 4 isn't enough?  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 08:56 AM   #2 
  - As usual...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:00 AM   #4 
  - As do you.  cleanhippie   Feb-13-11 05:52 PM   #73 
  - missed the point- in Times Square? It could have been dozens in a few minutes  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 09:09 AM   #7 
     - Did you respond to the wrong post? n/t  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 09:11 AM   #8 
        - No, your flip suggestion about "4 being enough"is offensive to those  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 09:52 AM   #21 
           - The point being, sans guns, a madman will find a way to kill.  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 09:55 AM   #22 
              - You don't think he could have killed far more people...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:00 AM   #23 
              - of course he knows. that's why he is laughably suggesting that four was the end all of horrors  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 10:26 AM   #27 
              - And I repeat, 4 ISN'T a massacre? What is YOUR definition?  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 10:34 AM   #29 
                 - in Times Square the potential was for dozens, why ignore or dispute that?  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 11:02 AM   #37 
                    - But it didn't. I could say the "potential" exists for someone to blow up  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 11:43 AM   #44 
                       - Do you seriously deny that he...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:48 AM   #46 
                       - I'm not arguing anything. The fact is, he DIDN'T use a gun so your  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 11:51 AM   #47 
                          - Bullshit...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:53 AM   #49 
                       - bullshit. we are talking about a man w/ weapon in Times Square, YOU are desperate to get off topic  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 12:08 PM   #51 
              - Not if he had a gun with only a few bullets.  Common Sense Party   Feb-13-11 10:20 PM   #86 
                 - This is getting beyond...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:36 PM   #89 
                    - It got way beyond stupid when you started all this nonsense.  Common Sense Party   Feb-13-11 10:39 PM   #90 
                       - You guys can flip words around all you want...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:42 PM   #91 
              - no, the post you responded to was that it could have been much worse w a gun -so many more people...  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 10:24 AM   #26 
  - Not allowed to make that argument  krispos42   Feb-13-11 09:01 AM   #5 
  - Bullshit...n/t  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:02 AM   #6 
     - Some guy whips out a knife in a crowded bathroom on a Friday night.  krispos42   Feb-13-11 09:12 AM   #9 
        - Except people would hear gunshots...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:14 AM   #10 
           - Do you deny the potential for an attack as I described exists? n/t  krispos42   Feb-13-11 09:18 AM   #11 
           - No...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:19 AM   #12 
              - Okay, then, the potential exits.  krispos42   Feb-13-11 09:22 AM   #13 
                 - Stupid question...n/t  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:25 AM   #14 
                    - Okay, as long as you are thoroughly berated at the next mass stabbing n/t  krispos42   Feb-13-11 09:27 AM   #15 
                       - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:32 AM   #16 
                          - hundreds of millions of guns in America, of which one or two...  krispos42   Feb-13-11 09:37 AM   #18 
                             - See my previous reply...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:39 AM   #20 
                             - "of which one or two might be used in a mass casualty event per year"  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:21 AM   #24 
                             - Define "mass casualty event", YOUR definition. How many killed  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 10:22 AM   #25 
                             - Why don't you ask the guy who made...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:27 AM   #28 
                                - You said his statement was total fabrication. I'm asking YOU to define  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 10:35 AM   #30 
                                   - Upthread you questioned why four deaths would not be a...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:39 AM   #31 
                                   - I never said 4 isn't a massacre. I asked why 4 deaths isn't enough  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 10:43 AM   #33 
                                      - I don't recall anyone here...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:45 AM   #34 
                                      - enough for what? outrage? you want outrageous? here you go:  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 12:11 PM   #52 
                                   - Here's the list for 2010...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:00 AM   #35 
                                      - You are refusing to give your opinion. Gotcha. n/t  shadowrider   Feb-13-11 11:02 AM   #36 
                                      - I just provided the list in which...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:05 AM   #38 
                                      - The link above downloads a...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:45 AM   #45 
                                      - Do you have a link that works?  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:29 PM   #65 
                                         - Post # 45...n/t  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 06:19 PM   #79 
                             - 99.875% of guns are NOT used in any shooting..  X_Digger   Feb-13-11 11:56 AM   #50 
                             - Nigeria beat that with just one mass macheteing event  lawodevolution   Feb-13-11 05:37 PM   #68 
                             - Do you understand the meaning and...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 05:40 PM   #70 
                                - Fact is people have used blades to kill many people without having to use firearms  lawodevolution   Feb-14-11 11:21 AM   #107 
                             - How do you define "mass casualty event"?  krispos42   Feb-13-11 10:16 PM   #84 
                             - LOL...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:52 PM   #95 
                                - I noticed you didn't answer the question.  krispos42   Feb-13-11 11:11 PM   #97 
                             - The numbers you give do not match the criteria you selected  krispos42   Feb-14-11 09:57 PM   #115 
                             - one or two? LOL, Are you really THAT out of the loop? If so, some facts for u here"  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 12:35 PM   #55 
                                - Two mass shootings  krispos42   Feb-13-11 10:45 PM   #92 
                                   - I was discussing four- just like the OP. And there's a whole lot of them, huh?  bettyellen   Feb-13-11 11:20 PM   #98 
                                   - There are several with four or more killed  krispos42   Feb-14-11 10:04 PM   #116 
                                   - So...  SDuderstadt   Feb-14-11 12:27 AM   #101 
                                      - I'm still waiting for a definition of "massacre" from you.  krispos42   Feb-14-11 08:42 AM   #103 
                                         - I'll go with the criminologists...  SDuderstadt   Feb-14-11 09:22 AM   #104 
                                            - Okay, four. Now we have a basis for comparison  krispos42   Feb-14-11 09:16 PM   #113 
                                               - Stupid either/or argument...  SDuderstadt   Feb-14-11 09:43 PM   #114 
                                               - I look at the subject line of the OP.  krispos42   Feb-14-11 10:10 PM   #117 
                                               - Now you're playing word games around...  SDuderstadt   Feb-14-11 10:21 PM   #118 
                                               - Yanno what, I think I made a mistake before  krispos42   Feb-14-11 11:12 PM   #120 
                                               - I TOLD you...  SDuderstadt   Feb-14-11 11:21 PM   #121 
                                               - Misleading chart title...  krispos42   Feb-15-11 12:07 AM   #122 
           - "Fact" "always" "certain"  Common Sense Party   Feb-13-11 10:22 PM   #87 
              - I know precisely what...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:57 PM   #96 
                 - Okay, we'll add "precisely" to the list,  Common Sense Party   Feb-13-11 11:36 PM   #99 
                    - Too funny...  SDuderstadt   Feb-14-11 12:23 AM   #100 
  - How many more could have been killed  Libertarian_Mike   Feb-13-11 09:33 AM   #17 
  - See posts #...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 09:38 AM   #19 
  - In japan, a guy killed 7 people and injured 19 with a knife. That's worse than the arizona shooting.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 11:15 AM   #39 
  - How many do you think the guy in Japan...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:18 AM   #40 
     - Maybe fewer... guns are loud and alerted people might run.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Feb-13-11 12:15 PM   #53 
     - "it is impossible to say what could have been"  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 12:18 PM   #54 
     - Possibly more, possibly less.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 04:09 PM   #56 
     - Of course...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 04:31 PM   #57 
        - Possibly yes.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 04:51 PM   #58 
           - Oh, please...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 04:55 PM   #59 
              - I already cited one.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:07 PM   #60 
                 - I said...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 05:12 PM   #61 
                    - It's impossible to know.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:14 PM   #62 
                       - It is not, dude...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 05:23 PM   #63 
                          - Call it flailing about all you want.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 05:26 PM   #64 
                             - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 05:35 PM   #67 
                                - I cannot even describe Loughner's scenario.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-13-11 06:40 PM   #81 
                                   - A person with a knife...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 06:48 PM   #82 
                                      - A person with a gun  AtheistCrusader   Feb-14-11 02:30 AM   #102 
     - Dunno. Does he even know how to shoot a gun?  Common Sense Party   Feb-13-11 10:26 PM   #88 
  - Probably less because guns make a lot of noise and he would have been caught sooner  lawodevolution   Feb-13-11 05:30 PM   #66 
  - Bullshit...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 05:38 PM   #69 
     - The largest nongovernment run mass killing in recent history involves bladed weapons  lawodevolution   Feb-14-11 11:19 AM   #106 
  - Irrelevant; the guy killed as many people as he wanted  Euromutt   Feb-15-11 02:35 AM   #123 
  - Obviously, all knives must be segmented  krispos42   Feb-13-11 08:58 AM   #3 
  - Nobody needs to  Katya Mullethov   Feb-13-11 10:41 AM   #32 
     - Perhaps a waiting period, then? And a one-knife-per-month policy?  krispos42   Feb-13-11 09:56 PM   #83 
        - Do you know any retired volunteer fireman that hunt ?  Katya Mullethov   Feb-14-11 10:25 AM   #105 
  - I'll take a guy with a knife ANYTIME over a gun. So would Gabby and her victims! Dumb argument!  KansasVoter   Feb-13-11 11:35 AM   #41 
  - Isn't it?  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:38 AM   #42 
  - If he is close enough to use it, he is too close to miss. n/t  oneshooter   Feb-13-11 11:40 AM   #43 
  - Which is why I'd...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 11:52 AM   #48 
     - Except trying to hit the target.  Blown330   Feb-13-11 05:42 PM   #71 
        - You have no idea what...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 05:44 PM   #72 
           - And you...  Blown330   Feb-13-11 05:56 PM   #75 
              - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 06:07 PM   #76 
                 - DUDE  rl6214   Feb-13-11 10:17 PM   #85 
                    - Dude!  Common Sense Party   Feb-13-11 10:50 PM   #94 
  - You might regret that choice.  one-eyed fat man   Feb-14-11 12:20 PM   #109 
  - This isn't possible. It's relatively easy to disarm someone with a knife. Ask around. n/t  shadowrider   Feb-14-11 02:15 PM   #110 
  - The lowly icepick  one-eyed fat man   Feb-14-11 10:30 PM   #119 
  - A knife is a very stealthy weapon. A guy can stab multiple people before anyone even figures out  lawodevolution   Feb-13-11 05:54 PM   #74 
  - More bullshit...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 06:11 PM   #77 
     - why don't you tell us why...  Blown330   Feb-13-11 06:17 PM   #78 
     - Nice strawman, dude...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 06:23 PM   #80 
     - Like I wrote before, it's because the anti gun side spreads around the idea guns  lawodevolution   Feb-14-11 11:29 AM   #108 
  - After trying to follow all the totally illogical...  SDuderstadt   Feb-13-11 10:48 PM   #93 
     - For personal defense...  57_TomCat   Feb-14-11 02:17 PM   #111 
        - Thank you for your service. As a side note  shadowrider   Feb-14-11 02:20 PM   #112 
 

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