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82. If Egypt was as well armed as the United States ...
they might have had a government that was more responsive to citizens and less of a dictatorship. Therefore this uprising might have never happened.

The United States has the longest lasting written constitution in the world. Of course, there are far more rights in it than merely the right to keep and bear arms. Rights which the Egyptians do not have. Still, the ultimate guarantee of our rights is the fact that we have an estimated 300 million firearms in our nation. If we were disarmed as many here wish, the military would have taken control of our government and shredded our constitution years ago, or a dictator would have risen to power and we would walk like Egyptians.
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  -So, I guess the NRA would say Egypt would be a better situation if everyone had a gun? egressingsparrowdrop  Feb-02-11 10:41 AM   #0 
  - There seem to be plenty of armed people  Mojorabbit   Feb-02-11 10:44 AM   #1 
  - How can you tell that? If there were, don't you think todays clashes  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 11:02 AM   #4 
  - I don't know the numbers  Mojorabbit   Feb-02-11 11:39 AM   #19 
  - All those rocks are really handguns out of ammo  DainBramaged   Feb-02-11 11:04 AM   #5 
  - Here's a rightwinger, for what it's worth, saying people are not allowed to carry firearms in Egypt.  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 11:04 AM   #6 
  - Updated the OP to incude Egypt gun numbers and gun control info...n/t  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 11:12 AM   #9 
  - I've seen sticks and bottles. Not guns. n/t  pnwmom   Feb-02-11 11:47 AM   #24 
     - Then you have not been watching  Mojorabbit   Feb-02-11 11:50 AM   #28 
  - If people on the streets started shooting police and soldiers...  rfranklin   Feb-02-11 10:44 AM   #2 
  - So you assume that the government would NOT use force if the protest is unarmed?  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 11:12 AM   #7 
  - You have no idea why Ghandi was so effective, do you?  rfranklin   Feb-02-11 11:29 AM   #16 
     - You're delusional  Lurks Often   Feb-02-11 11:41 AM   #20 
     - Or it could have gone like this  shadowrider   Feb-02-11 01:52 PM   #57 
     - Oh nonsense.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 02:15 PM   #62 
        - A point you have made n/t  shadowrider   Feb-02-11 02:48 PM   #65 
     - More precisely, large parts of the British and American electorates were fairly decent  Euromutt   Feb-04-11 07:50 PM   #86 
     - Probably better than you.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 11:45 AM   #23 
  - That's what I've been thinking all day.  pnwmom   Feb-02-11 11:48 AM   #25 
  - Who says the Police and the Army are the ones needing shooting?  AtheistCrusader   Feb-02-11 02:58 PM   #68 
  - The NRA prefers second amendment solutions to everything.  Ozymanithrax   Feb-02-11 10:45 AM   #3 
  - Is there actually any point  dipsydoodle   Feb-02-11 11:12 AM   #8 
  - Since the OP opened it up...Yes, there was a point.  Ozymanithrax   Feb-02-11 02:35 PM   #64 
     - It ain't over till it's over. Let the gov't start losing and we'll see what happens n/t  shadowrider   Feb-02-11 02:51 PM   #66 
  - The NRA is no slouch with a ballot box - nt  badtoworse   Feb-03-11 12:02 PM   #83 
  - And they would probably be right.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 11:14 AM   #10 
  - Hope u donned  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 11:22 AM   #12 
  - I guess it depends (and I haven't seen any of today's events).  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 11:43 AM   #21 
  - So, what you're saying is...  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 12:12 PM   #34 
     - Close enough.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 02:34 PM   #63 
  - MLK did wonders preaching non-violence but there were armed supporters  Nuclear Unicorn   Feb-02-11 12:01 PM   #31 
  - The military hasn't been fighting them. It's these  pnwmom   Feb-02-11 11:49 AM   #27 
     - That's correct (as far as I know)... why bet lives that it won't change?  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 12:11 PM   #33 
        - You think if everyone down there had guns they wouldn't be using them?  pnwmom   Feb-02-11 12:15 PM   #35 
           - Yes. I think that having a gun does NOT mean that you're going to use it.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 12:25 PM   #37 
              - It's also naive to think if everyone had a gun in this situation  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 12:36 PM   #40 
                 - Hey... as long as you're ok with the ones getting used all belonging to Mubarak  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 12:39 PM   #42 
                    - I guess you're right. More guns would be great  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 12:43 PM   #45 
                       - Lol... you missed that, didn't you?  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 01:01 PM   #49 
                          - Learn your history  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 01:10 PM   #53 
                             - Ok... if you stop inventing yours.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 02:10 PM   #59 
                                - LOL  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-04-11 01:28 AM   #85 
  - You have got to be kidding!  RegieRocker   Feb-02-11 11:19 AM   #11 
  - Huh?  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 11:28 AM   #15 
     - Way way out there you are.  RegieRocker   Feb-02-11 11:45 AM   #22 
        - I didn't say the Egyptian military was run by civilians  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 11:56 AM   #29 
           - Run go ahead. You can't handle the truth and reading comprehension  RegieRocker   Feb-02-11 12:32 PM   #38 
              - I can't handle reading comprehension?  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 12:37 PM   #41 
  - Ah, the "if" game  kctim   Feb-02-11 11:23 AM   #13 
  - So, guns = freedom?  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 11:33 AM   #17 
     - Close.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 11:49 AM   #26 
     - Way too many people living in fantasy land.  RegieRocker   Feb-02-11 12:35 PM   #39 
     - Pay attention to the pic in my sig line, then ask the inhabitants of those countries  shadowrider   Feb-02-11 01:57 PM   #58 
     - I merely point out  kctim   Feb-02-11 12:41 PM   #43 
        - Woah. Don't put words in my mouth, please  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 12:46 PM   #46 
           - "fewer guns" is ONLY a good thing if you trust that things won't get violent.  FBaggins   Feb-02-11 12:56 PM   #47 
  - The NRA would say there would never have been a Mubarak...  Recursion   Feb-02-11 11:24 AM   #14 
  - yeah, and a couple folks here are saying the same  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 12:00 PM   #30 
  - *shrug* I've been there a few times  Recursion   Feb-02-11 12:03 PM   #32 
  - Has there ever been a Mubarak in American history since our Constitution was ratified?  spin   Feb-02-11 03:09 PM   #69 
  - NRA. The ZPG solution.  Jakes Progress   Feb-02-11 11:34 AM   #18 
  - The people in Egypt protest even though they could lose their lives  DainBramaged   Feb-02-11 12:41 PM   #44 
     - You always claim that those who legally carry firearms do so out of fear ...  spin   Feb-02-11 03:42 PM   #71 
  - Bookmarked.  Edweird   Feb-02-11 12:25 PM   #36 
  - Women have been raped  Upton   Feb-02-11 01:01 PM   #48 
  - ...and women are never raped or businesses robbed at the point of a gun?  Electric Monk   Feb-02-11 01:05 PM   #52 
  - they like to say that "an armed society is a polite society"  kenny blankenship   Feb-02-11 01:04 PM   #50 
  - According to information in the OP, any Egyptian who can pass a background check can get a handgun  slackmaster   Feb-02-11 01:04 PM   #51 
  - And there are less than 4 guns for 100 civilians. That is the point.  egressingsparrowdrop   Feb-02-11 01:15 PM   #54 
     - I think the low rate of gun ownership has a simpler explanation than your mental-stability theory  slackmaster   Feb-02-11 01:23 PM   #55 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-02-11 02:14 PM   #60 
  - But, it would increase the body count and make Mubarak's case for "stability" at any price.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-02-11 01:31 PM   #56 
  - Civil disobedience...  jeepnstein   Feb-02-11 02:14 PM   #61 
  - As of today, Mubarak's supporters have come out with deadly force  AtheistCrusader   Feb-02-11 02:52 PM   #67 
  - But at least they have Molotov cocktails and not guns  shadowrider   Feb-02-11 03:27 PM   #70 
  - Missing sarcasm tag?  AtheistCrusader   Feb-02-11 03:42 PM   #72 
  - My fault  shadowrider   Feb-02-11 03:44 PM   #73 
     - No, I should have known.  AtheistCrusader   Feb-02-11 06:18 PM   #76 
  - Now the guns are out. Only 'certain people' have them. Care to gues which side they are on?  Edweird   Feb-03-11 10:03 AM   #80 
  - trying to provoke violence  HankyDubs   Feb-02-11 05:14 PM   #74 
     - They could easily do the same by pretending to be protestors  AtheistCrusader   Feb-02-11 05:20 PM   #75 
        - Save your breath- they only see what they want to see.  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-02-11 07:24 PM   #77 
           - You say that...  beevul   Feb-02-11 07:28 PM   #78 
              - re: "arm everyone"...  Electric Monk   Feb-03-11 12:20 AM   #79 
                 - And the NRA is mentioned *nowhere* in that article, nor in the linked original  friendly_iconoclast   Feb-03-11 11:17 AM   #81 
  - If Egypt was as well armed as the United States ...  spin   Feb-03-11 11:21 AM   #82 
  - Right about now, I'd say yes.  shadowrider   Feb-03-11 02:44 PM   #84 
 

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