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Thu Jan-27-11 10:53 PM
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| 5. Which number in my post contains an example of that? |
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Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 10:57 PM by beevul
Contrast what I've said with this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... What I've said is utterly reasonable. |
| -Some criteria for an adult discussion of gun control. |
beevul |
Jan-27-11 10:32 PM |
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lol calling people dishonest & telling people to quit pretending sounds pretty adult to me nt |
msongs |
Jan-27-11 10:35 PM |
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If it walks like a duck, and looks like a duck... |
beevul |
Jan-27-11 10:36 PM |
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If SCOTUS isn't helping, it is part of the problem. |
sharesunited |
Jan-27-11 10:47 PM |
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Unless it's repealed, the 2nd Amendment isn't going anywhere |
badtoworse |
Jan-28-11 08:05 AM |
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So, your 'criteria' for an adult discussion |
enlightenment |
Jan-27-11 10:51 PM |
#4 |
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Which number in my post contains an example of that? |
beevul |
Jan-27-11 10:53 PM |
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I'm not going to do comparisons - that's not the point. |
enlightenment |
Jan-27-11 11:15 PM |
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Heres the point. |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 12:19 AM |
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On any topic on DU, the only way to have an adult conversation is to only reply to |
petronius |
Jan-27-11 11:06 PM |
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Touche. |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 01:27 AM |
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Ok, Ill bite... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-27-11 11:08 PM |
#7 |
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Under the law that "shoulder thing lady" proposed |
guitar man |
Jan-27-11 11:34 PM |
#10 |
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Take a deep breath... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-27-11 11:39 PM |
#11 |
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I don't own any automatic weapons |
guitar man |
Jan-27-11 11:45 PM |
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Ok, but by analogy... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-27-11 11:55 PM |
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It's pretty valuable as it is |
guitar man |
Jan-28-11 12:02 AM |
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As the proposed law is currently written there are no exemptions for any |
oneshooter |
Jan-28-11 07:28 AM |
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Sporting purposes are being tested again by .......The Working Group . |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-28-11 07:49 AM |
#34 |
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You would be wrong |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 09:23 AM |
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Glacier Gal, saw her last year. Great aircraft! n/t |
oneshooter |
Jan-28-11 09:28 AM |
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There is still a problem. |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 11:43 AM |
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wow |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jan-28-11 02:34 PM |
#46 |
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NFA problems |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 12:40 PM |
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One could choose a trust |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-28-11 06:12 PM |
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Automatic weapons- machineguns, etc-have been relegated to a special category |
old mark |
Jan-28-11 12:57 AM |
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Limited to those who can play the game...OR... |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-28-11 01:02 AM |
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Theres a huge difference though... |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 01:25 AM |
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Sure, a capacity limit wouldn't be easy to implement. |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-28-11 01:55 AM |
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No, it wouldn't. |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 02:36 AM |
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It violates basic statist rules of the road |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-28-11 07:34 AM |
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Only Canada. |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 09:44 AM |
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Sure. One of the biggest sellers after the last attempt to "ban" mags over 10 rounds |
old mark |
Jan-28-11 07:15 AM |
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The law went into effect in 1934....nt |
old mark |
Jan-28-11 07:12 AM |
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...some animals are more equal than others |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 09:13 PM |
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Good post. |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 12:27 AM |
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It would be great to get some answers. |
whoneedstickets |
Jan-28-11 12:45 AM |
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The state... |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 01:17 AM |
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Mass killing? |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 10:29 AM |
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Such a law would not have the desired effect. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-28-11 03:22 AM |
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Ridiculously broad and by far not the least restrictive. |
benEzra |
Jan-28-11 10:44 AM |
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I would be happy if there were no gun control |
tularetom |
Jan-27-11 11:13 PM |
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You can legally buy 40 AKs on the same day! |
Blacksheep214 |
Jan-28-11 05:05 AM |
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You don't help make your point... |
mvccd1000 |
Jan-28-11 07:28 AM |
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For most people , gun ownership is legal...pot ownership is not. |
old mark |
Jan-28-11 07:33 AM |
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My Congressman is... |
Blacksheep214 |
Jan-28-11 09:48 AM |
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My new Senator is Pat Toomey...I feel your pain...The only thing I have against pot |
old mark |
Jan-28-11 11:19 AM |
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Your day is already here , somewhere . |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-28-11 07:42 AM |
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Your right to buy a bag of weed has been infringed |
slackmaster |
Jan-28-11 11:58 AM |
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Your money |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 02:37 PM |
#47 |
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Why use Mexican weed? |
Blacksheep214 |
Jan-29-11 02:19 AM |
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Chicken or egg |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-29-11 07:58 AM |
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Didn't research it, did ya? |
Blacksheep214 |
Jan-29-11 08:24 AM |
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Most of the folks smoking dope |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-29-11 09:51 AM |
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"Is there a dope equivalent of a having a glass of wine to complement a meal?" |
PavePusher |
Jan-29-11 10:11 AM |
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That is my question |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-29-11 11:03 AM |
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Squelching one's house fly like EEG . |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-29-11 05:44 PM |
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Yes. There actually is. |
beevul |
Jan-29-11 06:37 PM |
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As did I. |
beevul |
Jan-29-11 06:31 PM |
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I was alway a fan of Gregory Boyington |
RSillsbee |
Jan-29-11 10:21 PM |
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All those dudes were DOPERS! |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-28-11 10:51 PM |
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Who are you, Vishnu? |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-29-11 02:47 PM |
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I'm all for an adult discussion |
PhillySane |
Jan-29-11 08:36 AM |
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Thoughts... |
benEzra |
Jan-29-11 09:07 AM |
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AR-15 |
PhillySane |
Jan-29-11 09:22 AM |
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The AR-15 is only available in "semi-auto mode". |
PavePusher |
Jan-29-11 10:02 AM |
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Yes, definitely. The most popular civilian rifle in the US, and among the least misused of all guns. |
benEzra |
Jan-29-11 10:28 AM |
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This is a military weapon, is it not? |
PhillySane |
Jan-29-11 11:18 AM |
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I'm really trying to understand your rationale. |
shadowrider |
Jan-29-11 11:21 AM |
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Not just military. |
jeepnstein |
Jan-29-11 11:44 AM |
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A well regulated militia... |
PhillySane |
Jan-29-11 12:13 PM |
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You want a definition of "well-regulated militia"? |
shadowrider |
Jan-29-11 12:14 PM |
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Militia... |
jeepnstein |
Jan-29-11 12:55 PM |
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It seems to me |
PhillySane |
Jan-29-11 01:43 PM |
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Take "well-regulated" during the TIME it was used. DON'T apply a modern |
shadowrider |
Jan-29-11 01:50 PM |
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That's the way it is. |
jeepnstein |
Jan-29-11 01:57 PM |
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"A well regulated militia"... |
beevul |
Jan-29-11 07:10 PM |
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I still say this is "reading into" |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 08:12 AM |
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Ok, lets try this again. |
beevul |
Jan-30-11 04:23 PM |
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So the second amendment protects restriction of what exactly? |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 11:19 PM |
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The bill of rights protects rights via a mechanism of restriction on government. |
beevul |
Jan-30-11 11:54 PM |
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The government RESTRICTS all of these weapons. |
PhillySane |
Jan-31-11 07:20 AM |
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No, actually they aren't. |
beevul |
Jan-31-11 01:53 PM |
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I have no idea how to read your map |
PhillySane |
Jan-31-11 02:52 PM |
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It's easy. They are, in fact, legal in *most* states- so your assertion is wrong |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-31-11 03:43 PM |
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Let me interpret this |
shadowrider |
Jan-31-11 03:59 PM |
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Hey dude |
PhillySane |
Jan-31-11 04:20 PM |
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Quite a few 'exceptions' there.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-31-11 04:57 PM |
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Excuse me |
Glassunion |
Jan-31-11 05:20 PM |
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Red=illegal, green = legal - the same way a stoplight is read. |
beevul |
Jan-31-11 10:58 PM |
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No convincing is necessary. There is a militia - and YOU might be a member: |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-29-11 10:02 PM |
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I would argue that! |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 08:19 AM |
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Ok, say that happens. Now explain to me how to keep guns out of the hands |
shadowrider |
Jan-30-11 08:47 AM |
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Actually there is starting to be a trend |
RSillsbee |
Jan-30-11 03:03 PM |
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True that. But they join BEFORE they acquire a serious record at the direction of the gang |
shadowrider |
Jan-31-11 07:23 AM |
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Read the law again. It doesn't have *any* duty requirement, or qualifications... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-30-11 02:59 PM |
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Nice dodge.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-29-11 02:48 PM |
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Dodge? |
jeepnstein |
Jan-29-11 04:15 PM |
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Oh, your response was spot on.. notice I responded to PhillySane.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-29-11 04:18 PM |
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This board is confusing. |
jeepnstein |
Jan-29-11 04:43 PM |
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Funny how your goalposts are on 4X4 wheels. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-30-11 08:37 AM |
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The ability to fire automatically or in bursts when needed |
benEzra |
Jan-29-11 02:25 PM |
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I commend you for thoroughness. |
PhillySane |
Jan-29-11 04:02 PM |
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"But even if you save one life because of it, its a good thing".- do you apply this to other rights? |
X_Digger |
Jan-29-11 04:25 PM |
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You speak of incremental changes |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 07:58 AM |
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Actually, when the second amendment was signed, there was a gun with a 20 round magazine. |
X_Digger |
Jan-30-11 12:05 PM |
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Great! |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 12:36 PM |
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And are you going to limit the first amendment to quills and hand-crank printing presses as well? |
X_Digger |
Jan-30-11 12:52 PM |
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It's all fun and games until you start restricting other rights n/t |
shadowrider |
Jan-30-11 12:56 PM |
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18th and 21st |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 02:02 PM |
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Feel free to try to alter or remove the second amendment. |
X_Digger |
Jan-30-11 02:21 PM |
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Mother Superior Jumped The Gun |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 02:29 PM |
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Keep in mind... |
beevul |
Jan-29-11 07:25 PM |
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And the mere fact that we have so many available to us |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 08:44 AM |
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To the contrary. |
beevul |
Jan-30-11 04:02 PM |
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How the hell do you know that? |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 11:11 PM |
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How the hell do I know what? |
beevul |
Jan-30-11 11:58 PM |
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Clyde Barrow's letter to Henry Ford |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-29-11 03:29 PM |
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No its not a military weapon. |
beevul |
Jan-29-11 07:02 PM |
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Why do you contradict yourselves all the time? |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 08:40 AM |
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I think you misunderstand. |
beevul |
Jan-30-11 03:59 PM |
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So you still haven't answered the question. |
PhillySane |
Jan-30-11 11:25 PM |
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I already answered it, but I guess you didn't read it. |
beevul |
Jan-31-11 12:15 AM |
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If I was determined |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-31-11 11:15 AM |
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Just about anything is "a military weapon" if you trace the ancestry of the design far enough |
Euromutt |
Jan-31-11 08:45 AM |
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In this case, YOU determine what a "reasonable response" is |
shadowrider |
Jan-29-11 09:11 AM |
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Have some degree of knowledge about firearms technology and terminology |
Taitertots |
Jan-29-11 01:13 PM |
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