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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #65
81. Yeah, but his dad is a racist, so it was OK.
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 04:47 PM by friendly_iconoclast
Or so I've been told...
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  -Kicking the hornets nest. beevul  Jan-26-11 04:06 AM   #0 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-26-11 04:23 AM   #1 
  - I am not against guns  left is right   Jan-26-11 05:00 AM   #2 
  - "I’ll take my automatic with the 30-bullet clip"  armueller2001   Jan-26-11 06:49 AM   #4 
  - So, you braod-brush all gun owners with the anecdote of one foolish person.  PavePusher   Jan-26-11 10:07 AM   #16 
  - when I carry  YllwFvr   Jan-26-11 10:15 AM   #18 
     - Thankfully, of the millions who own guns, only a handful are foolhardy enough to  Starboard Tack   Jan-26-11 12:26 PM   #28 
     - more than likely you are around them every day  YllwFvr   Jan-26-11 12:35 PM   #29 
     - 780,595 people in Florida have concealed weapons permits ...  spin   Jan-27-11 12:38 PM   #46 
     - I am like you  rl6214   Jan-26-11 01:02 PM   #30 
  - I guess its not exactly inciting violence  liberal N proud   Jan-26-11 06:08 AM   #3 
  - Yet decades of liberalized gun carry laws have NOT created the bloodbath you seem to expect.  Callisto32   Jan-26-11 07:06 AM   #6 
  - What I find amazing is there are no good fact to support that either way  liberal N proud   Jan-26-11 08:41 AM   #7 
     - The BJS has some stats, as does the CDC..  X_Digger   Jan-26-11 08:46 AM   #9 
     - I don't see a dramatic drop in Aggravated assaults with firearms  liberal N proud   Jan-26-11 10:04 AM   #15 
        - But you ignore the proliferation of firearms and liberalization of laws regarding their carry.  Callisto32   Jan-26-11 11:23 AM   #23 
     - Look up the different years, and compare for yourself.  Callisto32   Jan-26-11 09:09 AM   #11 
     - Baloney. The stats you claim don't exist have been posted here many times. n/t  PavePusher   Jan-26-11 10:08 AM   #17 
        - Never said the didn't exist  liberal N proud   Jan-26-11 11:18 AM   #21 
           - What you said:  PavePusher   Jan-26-11 11:53 AM   #25 
              - What he means is  shadowrider   Jan-26-11 11:56 AM   #26 
  - Your opinion isn't backed up by fact, however..  X_Digger   Jan-26-11 08:43 AM   #8 
  - X_Digger,  Callisto32   Jan-26-11 09:10 AM   #12 
     - for example, in 2007..0.261 % of crimes were by CHLs  X_Digger   Jan-26-11 11:44 AM   #24 
        - That's what I thought you meant.  Callisto32   Jan-26-11 12:25 PM   #27 
  - your scenario?  YllwFvr   Jan-26-11 10:17 AM   #19 
  - Why is it the anti's alwasy talk about the  rl6214   Jan-26-11 01:05 PM   #31 
  - I see it a bit different.  lepus   Jan-26-11 08:10 PM   #35 
  - I think you might find out that  safeinOhio   Jan-26-11 06:58 AM   #5 
  - One issue voter?  HelenWheels   Jan-26-11 08:57 AM   #10 
     - You are right, I am a one issue voter.  Callisto32   Jan-26-11 09:12 AM   #13 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-26-11 09:39 AM   #14 
     - "Potential killers."  Callisto32   Jan-26-11 11:20 AM   #22 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-26-11 01:17 PM   #32 
     - im anti NRA  YllwFvr   Jan-26-11 10:22 AM   #20 
     - Broaden it up and then it's right.  Francis Marion   Jan-27-11 12:10 AM   #41 
  - It amazes me that gun owners can threaten politicians so subtly and get away with it  DainBramaged   Jan-26-11 02:25 PM   #33 
  - Retribution in the form of votes against you kind of goes with the territory for politicians  slackmaster   Jan-26-11 02:28 PM   #34 
  - Yep, pro-gunners will add to their already large weapons cache when controls are considered.  Hoyt   Jan-26-11 11:38 PM   #36 
     - What does that tell you about pro-gunners?  beevul   Jan-26-11 11:44 PM   #37 
     - A slight demurrer. The trouble with that is.....  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-27-11 12:46 AM   #42 
     - What does it tell me?  Straw Man   Jan-26-11 11:50 PM   #38 
     - If it's to make a profit, consider getting into something not related to killing people.  Hoyt   Jan-26-11 11:57 PM   #39 
        - Not related at all to killing people.  Straw Man   Jan-27-11 12:06 AM   #40 
        - Randy Weaver  RSillsbee   Jan-27-11 05:01 AM   #44 
           - Now pro-gunners are defending racist survivalists (Ayran Nation) who sold illegal weapons.  Hoyt   Jan-27-11 12:16 PM   #45 
              - Is it wrong in your opinion to buy firearms and have a firearm collection ...  spin   Jan-27-11 12:49 PM   #47 
              - Depends on what one plans to do with them and how stable the hoarder/collector is.  Hoyt   Jan-27-11 07:16 PM   #51 
                 - So to you a "collector" is the same as a "hoarder"? n/t  oneshooter   Jan-27-11 08:37 PM   #53 
                 - A stored or carried firearm (even loaded) does not pose anything like the danger of a bomb.  PavePusher   Jan-28-11 01:00 PM   #68 
              - Now pro restrictionists are defending the killing  RSillsbee   Jan-27-11 01:37 PM   #48 
              - Randy Weaver frequented Aryan Nation meetings and sold illegal weapons. Apparently OK with some here  Hoyt   Jan-27-11 07:12 PM   #50 
                 - Love the association fallacy.. did you come up with that yourself?  X_Digger   Jan-27-11 07:27 PM   #52 
                 - The Second Reich invented retirement at 65. Richard Nixon founded the EPA  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-27-11 08:56 PM   #54 
                 - Lets not forget what the Gun control act of '68 is modeled after...N/T  beevul   Jan-27-11 09:27 PM   #55 
                 - I don't see anyone disagreeing  RSillsbee   Jan-27-11 10:13 PM   #56 
                    - He had equal protection. If toters shoot someone, what legal protection do they have?  Hoyt   Jan-27-11 11:55 PM   #57 
                       - The guns he sold  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 03:36 AM   #58 
                       - So you don't think we should infiltrate racist, terrorist organizations. Interesting.  Hoyt   Jan-28-11 08:09 AM   #59 
                          - I never said that  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 08:56 AM   #60 
                          - I have no problem "deliberately setting up" terrorists, which Weaver clearly was.  Hoyt   Jan-28-11 10:13 AM   #61 
                             - Yep, that assault baby was clearly a threat to law enforcement...  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-28-11 11:16 AM   #63 
                             - "I have no problem "deliberately setting up" terrorists, which Weaver clearly was."  PavePusher   Jan-28-11 12:57 PM   #66 
                             - He wasn't set up out of the blue. He was set up because he was a terrorist.  Hoyt   Jan-28-11 01:55 PM   #70 
                                - SO attach 'terra' to anyone, and any means is justified by the ends?  X_Digger   Jan-28-11 02:02 PM   #72 
                                - What were his alledged crimes? Please, don't dodge. n/t  PavePusher   Jan-28-11 02:21 PM   #73 
                                   - You know the old saying...  beevul   Jan-28-11 08:52 PM   #91 
                             - Do you really not understand?  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 12:58 PM   #67 
                                - I understand that Weaver had well over a year to surrender, did not, and bad things happened.  Hoyt   Jan-28-11 01:53 PM   #69 
                                   - Do you not understand  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 02:46 PM   #74 
                          - So you have no problem with cops shooting women holding children. Interesting.  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-28-11 11:18 AM   #64 
                             - Daddy Weaver should have given himself up. Instead HE put his wife in danger.  Hoyt   Jan-28-11 01:59 PM   #71 
                                - Strangely enoiugh, thats the argument the feds made in court.  beevul   Jan-28-11 02:54 PM   #75 
                                - Don't you know civil liberties only extend to people who's politics are acceptable  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 03:23 PM   #76 
                                - Which is exactly what they did the next time. Oops. n/t  PavePusher   Jan-28-11 04:11 PM   #77 
                                - That was different  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 04:22 PM   #78 
                                   - I forget... were there any minorities at Waco?  PavePusher   Jan-28-11 05:41 PM   #87 
                                      - Worse  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 08:45 PM   #89 
                                      - ROFL. N/T  beevul   Jan-28-11 08:49 PM   #90 
                                - Apparently, flying Confederate flags means it's OK for law enforcement to shoot you  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-28-11 04:43 PM   #80 
                                   - But they don't have the right to transfer illegal weapons and run from trial for over a year.  Hoyt   Jan-28-11 05:24 PM   #84 
                                      - Once again, your ignorance is on display.  beevul   Jan-28-11 05:39 PM   #86 
                                      - Back to the Weavers, you have still not answered the question:  PavePusher   Jan-28-11 05:43 PM   #88 
                                - Why am I not surprised you followed this closely? Did you contribute to his defense fund?  Hoyt   Jan-28-11 05:18 PM   #83 
                                   - It is clear you didn't.  beevul   Jan-28-11 05:28 PM   #85 
                                - That argument worked so well for the Feds, they ended up paying $3M to the Weaver family....  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-28-11 04:39 PM   #79 
                       - I guess his wife and son were just collateral damage, eh?  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-28-11 11:14 AM   #62 
                          - Wasn'r his son the one that got shot in the back? NT  RSillsbee   Jan-28-11 12:46 PM   #65 
                             - Yeah, but his dad is a racist, so it was OK.  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-28-11 04:46 PM   #81 
                                - Amazing how that works.  shadowrider   Jan-28-11 04:49 PM   #82 
              - False accusation of association.  GreenStormCloud   Jan-27-11 02:11 PM   #49 
     - The same thing it tells me about pot-smokers...  mvccd1000   Jan-27-11 12:51 AM   #43 
 

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