Starboard Tack
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:26 PM
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| 28. Thankfully, of the millions who own guns, only a handful are foolhardy enough to |
| -Kicking the hornets nest. |
beevul |
Jan-26-11 04:06 AM |
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Jan-26-11 04:23 AM |
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I am not against guns |
left is right |
Jan-26-11 05:00 AM |
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"I’ll take my automatic with the 30-bullet clip" |
armueller2001 |
Jan-26-11 06:49 AM |
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So, you braod-brush all gun owners with the anecdote of one foolish person. |
PavePusher |
Jan-26-11 10:07 AM |
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when I carry |
YllwFvr |
Jan-26-11 10:15 AM |
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Thankfully, of the millions who own guns, only a handful are foolhardy enough to |
Starboard Tack |
Jan-26-11 12:26 PM |
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more than likely you are around them every day |
YllwFvr |
Jan-26-11 12:35 PM |
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780,595 people in Florida have concealed weapons permits ... |
spin |
Jan-27-11 12:38 PM |
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I am like you |
rl6214 |
Jan-26-11 01:02 PM |
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I guess its not exactly inciting violence |
liberal N proud |
Jan-26-11 06:08 AM |
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Yet decades of liberalized gun carry laws have NOT created the bloodbath you seem to expect. |
Callisto32 |
Jan-26-11 07:06 AM |
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What I find amazing is there are no good fact to support that either way |
liberal N proud |
Jan-26-11 08:41 AM |
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The BJS has some stats, as does the CDC.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-26-11 08:46 AM |
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I don't see a dramatic drop in Aggravated assaults with firearms |
liberal N proud |
Jan-26-11 10:04 AM |
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But you ignore the proliferation of firearms and liberalization of laws regarding their carry. |
Callisto32 |
Jan-26-11 11:23 AM |
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Look up the different years, and compare for yourself. |
Callisto32 |
Jan-26-11 09:09 AM |
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Baloney. The stats you claim don't exist have been posted here many times. n/t |
PavePusher |
Jan-26-11 10:08 AM |
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Never said the didn't exist |
liberal N proud |
Jan-26-11 11:18 AM |
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What you said: |
PavePusher |
Jan-26-11 11:53 AM |
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What he means is |
shadowrider |
Jan-26-11 11:56 AM |
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Your opinion isn't backed up by fact, however.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-26-11 08:43 AM |
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X_Digger, |
Callisto32 |
Jan-26-11 09:10 AM |
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for example, in 2007..0.261 % of crimes were by CHLs |
X_Digger |
Jan-26-11 11:44 AM |
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That's what I thought you meant. |
Callisto32 |
Jan-26-11 12:25 PM |
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your scenario? |
YllwFvr |
Jan-26-11 10:17 AM |
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Why is it the anti's alwasy talk about the |
rl6214 |
Jan-26-11 01:05 PM |
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I see it a bit different. |
lepus |
Jan-26-11 08:10 PM |
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I think you might find out that |
safeinOhio |
Jan-26-11 06:58 AM |
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One issue voter? |
HelenWheels |
Jan-26-11 08:57 AM |
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You are right, I am a one issue voter. |
Callisto32 |
Jan-26-11 09:12 AM |
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Jan-26-11 09:39 AM |
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"Potential killers." |
Callisto32 |
Jan-26-11 11:20 AM |
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Jan-26-11 01:17 PM |
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im anti NRA |
YllwFvr |
Jan-26-11 10:22 AM |
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Broaden it up and then it's right. |
Francis Marion |
Jan-27-11 12:10 AM |
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It amazes me that gun owners can threaten politicians so subtly and get away with it |
DainBramaged |
Jan-26-11 02:25 PM |
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Retribution in the form of votes against you kind of goes with the territory for politicians |
slackmaster |
Jan-26-11 02:28 PM |
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Yep, pro-gunners will add to their already large weapons cache when controls are considered. |
Hoyt |
Jan-26-11 11:38 PM |
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What does that tell you about pro-gunners? |
beevul |
Jan-26-11 11:44 PM |
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A slight demurrer. The trouble with that is..... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-27-11 12:46 AM |
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What does it tell me? |
Straw Man |
Jan-26-11 11:50 PM |
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If it's to make a profit, consider getting into something not related to killing people. |
Hoyt |
Jan-26-11 11:57 PM |
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Not related at all to killing people. |
Straw Man |
Jan-27-11 12:06 AM |
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Randy Weaver |
RSillsbee |
Jan-27-11 05:01 AM |
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Now pro-gunners are defending racist survivalists (Ayran Nation) who sold illegal weapons. |
Hoyt |
Jan-27-11 12:16 PM |
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Is it wrong in your opinion to buy firearms and have a firearm collection ... |
spin |
Jan-27-11 12:49 PM |
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Depends on what one plans to do with them and how stable the hoarder/collector is. |
Hoyt |
Jan-27-11 07:16 PM |
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So to you a "collector" is the same as a "hoarder"? n/t |
oneshooter |
Jan-27-11 08:37 PM |
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A stored or carried firearm (even loaded) does not pose anything like the danger of a bomb. |
PavePusher |
Jan-28-11 01:00 PM |
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Now pro restrictionists are defending the killing |
RSillsbee |
Jan-27-11 01:37 PM |
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Randy Weaver frequented Aryan Nation meetings and sold illegal weapons. Apparently OK with some here |
Hoyt |
Jan-27-11 07:12 PM |
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Love the association fallacy.. did you come up with that yourself? |
X_Digger |
Jan-27-11 07:27 PM |
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The Second Reich invented retirement at 65. Richard Nixon founded the EPA |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-27-11 08:56 PM |
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Lets not forget what the Gun control act of '68 is modeled after...N/T |
beevul |
Jan-27-11 09:27 PM |
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I don't see anyone disagreeing |
RSillsbee |
Jan-27-11 10:13 PM |
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He had equal protection. If toters shoot someone, what legal protection do they have? |
Hoyt |
Jan-27-11 11:55 PM |
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The guns he sold |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 03:36 AM |
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So you don't think we should infiltrate racist, terrorist organizations. Interesting. |
Hoyt |
Jan-28-11 08:09 AM |
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I never said that |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 08:56 AM |
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I have no problem "deliberately setting up" terrorists, which Weaver clearly was. |
Hoyt |
Jan-28-11 10:13 AM |
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Yep, that assault baby was clearly a threat to law enforcement... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-28-11 11:16 AM |
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"I have no problem "deliberately setting up" terrorists, which Weaver clearly was." |
PavePusher |
Jan-28-11 12:57 PM |
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He wasn't set up out of the blue. He was set up because he was a terrorist. |
Hoyt |
Jan-28-11 01:55 PM |
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SO attach 'terra' to anyone, and any means is justified by the ends? |
X_Digger |
Jan-28-11 02:02 PM |
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What were his alledged crimes? Please, don't dodge. n/t |
PavePusher |
Jan-28-11 02:21 PM |
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You know the old saying... |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 08:52 PM |
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Do you really not understand? |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 12:58 PM |
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I understand that Weaver had well over a year to surrender, did not, and bad things happened. |
Hoyt |
Jan-28-11 01:53 PM |
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Do you not understand |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 02:46 PM |
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So you have no problem with cops shooting women holding children. Interesting. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-28-11 11:18 AM |
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Daddy Weaver should have given himself up. Instead HE put his wife in danger. |
Hoyt |
Jan-28-11 01:59 PM |
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Strangely enoiugh, thats the argument the feds made in court. |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 02:54 PM |
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Don't you know civil liberties only extend to people who's politics are acceptable |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 03:23 PM |
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Which is exactly what they did the next time. Oops. n/t |
PavePusher |
Jan-28-11 04:11 PM |
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That was different |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 04:22 PM |
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I forget... were there any minorities at Waco? |
PavePusher |
Jan-28-11 05:41 PM |
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Worse |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 08:45 PM |
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ROFL. N/T |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 08:49 PM |
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Apparently, flying Confederate flags means it's OK for law enforcement to shoot you |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-28-11 04:43 PM |
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But they don't have the right to transfer illegal weapons and run from trial for over a year. |
Hoyt |
Jan-28-11 05:24 PM |
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Once again, your ignorance is on display. |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 05:39 PM |
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Back to the Weavers, you have still not answered the question: |
PavePusher |
Jan-28-11 05:43 PM |
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Why am I not surprised you followed this closely? Did you contribute to his defense fund? |
Hoyt |
Jan-28-11 05:18 PM |
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It is clear you didn't. |
beevul |
Jan-28-11 05:28 PM |
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That argument worked so well for the Feds, they ended up paying $3M to the Weaver family.... |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-28-11 04:39 PM |
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I guess his wife and son were just collateral damage, eh? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-28-11 11:14 AM |
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Wasn'r his son the one that got shot in the back? NT |
RSillsbee |
Jan-28-11 12:46 PM |
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Yeah, but his dad is a racist, so it was OK. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-28-11 04:46 PM |
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Amazing how that works. |
shadowrider |
Jan-28-11 04:49 PM |
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False accusation of association. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-27-11 02:11 PM |
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The same thing it tells me about pot-smokers... |
mvccd1000 |
Jan-27-11 12:51 AM |
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