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Sun Jan-16-11 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 11. LOL ... Well said .... |
| -What do you consider "Sensible gun control"? (Read the post before responding) |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 08:22 AM |
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IBTM.. |
Fumesucker |
Jan-16-11 08:25 AM |
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LOL ... Well said .... |
Trajan |
Jan-16-11 08:48 AM |
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Ask a police officer who is outgunned on the street and get back to me. |
mmonk |
Jan-16-11 08:26 AM |
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Few police are out gunned here in CA |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-16-11 08:33 AM |
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Police officers have access to firearms the public cannot buy... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-16-11 08:35 AM |
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You can check. |
mmonk |
Jan-16-11 08:41 AM |
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I didn't see any axamples... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-16-11 08:50 AM |
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A brief perusal showed no instances where criminals had access... |
PavePusher |
Jan-16-11 10:43 AM |
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Police Offices can buy NIB fully automatic weapons from the manufacturers |
Taitertots |
Jan-16-11 08:45 AM |
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The ability to buy them is different than every beat officer carrying one. |
mmonk |
Jan-16-11 09:17 AM |
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If police departments want officers carrying automatic rifles, departments would purchase them. nt |
bluestate10 |
Jan-16-11 09:19 AM |
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And since no-one is carrying them in public... |
PavePusher |
Jan-16-11 10:39 AM |
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I haven't seen a police car without an AR-15 or similar in it |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-16-11 12:14 PM |
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Yes, if they don't have them it is because they choose to make it that way |
Taitertots |
Jan-16-11 01:58 PM |
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There were fewer cops killed ITLOD last year than any year since 1956 |
Recursion |
Jan-16-11 09:15 AM |
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Outgunned police? |
notesdev |
Jan-16-11 09:57 AM |
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I saw the Redmond PD tank getting new shoes at Les Schwab Tires one afternoon. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-16-11 12:07 PM |
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Look at you, falling for the media spin hook line and sinker. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-16-11 12:06 PM |
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What do you consider "reasonable regulations"? |
TheCowsCameHome |
Jan-16-11 08:29 AM |
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Gun crimes beng punished with full terms. |
Tejas |
Jan-16-11 08:59 AM |
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I meant in terms of what a person should be allowed to legally own. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Jan-16-11 09:55 AM |
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My bad, was trying to |
Tejas |
Jan-16-11 11:58 AM |
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This is something that interests me too. |
NewMoonTherian |
Jan-16-11 07:08 PM |
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If it's on theT O &E for an 11 Bravo I want one NT |
RSillsbee |
Jan-16-11 11:36 AM |
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Well can we start the discussion without injecting NRA propaganda ? |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jan-16-11 08:31 AM |
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False as to fact |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-16-11 08:34 AM |
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And how exactly would the OP know that? |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jan-16-11 08:44 AM |
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The OP asked for a debate, not a flame. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-16-11 09:26 AM |
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You are exactly correct. Discussion is required, |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 09:29 AM |
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Would that discussion also include the examination and explanation of facts |
Vinnie From Indy |
Jan-16-11 09:40 AM |
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The NRA helped write and pass the current federal laws |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-16-11 12:10 PM |
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Any you complian about so called propoganda? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-16-11 12:30 PM |
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His post didn't state as fact that anyone wants to grant the mentally unbalanced access to firearms |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 08:54 AM |
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but they are utterly unwilling to put up with any inconvenience |
dsc |
Jan-16-11 09:21 AM |
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Yours is the definitive post on this thread. Nothing more needs to be said. |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 08:49 AM |
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Block people adjudicated mentally unfit from buying guns |
Taitertots |
Jan-16-11 08:51 AM |
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In this regard, the OP has a point. |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 08:55 AM |
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That is the problem with considering people innocent until proven guilty |
Taitertots |
Jan-16-11 08:59 AM |
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I, too, want a single payer health care system, but it won't solve the problem. |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 09:03 AM |
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What problem? The non-existent gun problem |
Taitertots |
Jan-16-11 09:07 AM |
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Oh. I thought we were having a conversation. |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 09:15 AM |
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Rant? I'm just commenting on our focus being on two different problems |
Taitertots |
Jan-16-11 09:26 AM |
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sincere question: If all the existing laws were consistently enforced, what would happen ? |
steve2470 |
Jan-16-11 08:52 AM |
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Hardcore advocates of the 2nd Amendment, when honest, will admit that they don't want them enforced. |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 08:57 AM |
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Your post contributes nothing to the discussion |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 09:31 AM |
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I disagree. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-16-11 09:43 AM |
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The Second Amendment is not about hunting. |
PavePusher |
Jan-16-11 10:50 AM |
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registered firearms |
RSillsbee |
Jan-16-11 11:42 AM |
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Ok, then -- prove me wrong. Give me a piece of gun control legislation that you support. |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 11:04 AM |
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I support all gun legislation already on the books. There is no need for more |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 11:07 AM |
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You support it all, yet you still equate gun control to Mao and Pol Pot? |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 11:13 AM |
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Supporting gun legislation in the US has NOTHING to do with calling |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 11:16 AM |
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Cite to evidence? Or did you pull that from your colon? n/t |
PavePusher |
Jan-16-11 10:47 AM |
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From my colon to your ear? |
Buzz Clik |
Jan-16-11 01:29 PM |
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Most of us are convinced that if they were enforced no additional laws would be needed |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-16-11 12:34 PM |
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The universe would implode |
notesdev |
Jan-16-11 09:59 AM |
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The ban on assault weapons and 30-round booster ammunition that was allowed to expire |
Overseas |
Jan-16-11 08:54 AM |
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"booster ammunition" - 2 or 3 stage? Can you hit sattellites with it? |
Tejas |
Jan-16-11 09:08 AM |
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There was no appreciable difference in the percentage of such magazines used in crime 94-04 |
X_Digger |
Jan-16-11 09:11 AM |
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Hard to take a post serious when it contains only scare words and no facts |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-16-11 12:40 PM |
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My 2 cents: I'd prefer to restrict the supply side rather than the demand side. |
scarletwoman |
Jan-16-11 08:59 AM |
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THAT is a thought out post. I don't agree it would ever work |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 09:04 AM |
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Thank you. As for foreign manufacturers, we do have the ability to restrict all sorts of imports. |
scarletwoman |
Jan-16-11 09:16 AM |
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Don't we also restrict the import of cocaine and heroin? |
hack89 |
Jan-16-11 10:27 AM |
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Actually I do. Gun factories aren't underground and illegal, they operate in full view. |
scarletwoman |
Jan-16-11 11:10 AM |
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Let me respectfully correct your statement |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 11:13 AM |
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Absolutely correct |
Maine_Nurse |
Jan-16-11 11:38 AM |
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Corrupt countries like Russia can and will provide all the guns we would want |
hack89 |
Jan-16-11 11:50 AM |
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Restrict the supply for US Mfgs, and others will fill the demand. |
X_Digger |
Jan-16-11 09:14 AM |
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The pernicious and diabolical Heller affirming Miller is its holding that |
sharesunited |
Jan-16-11 10:38 AM |
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Bet you say the same thing about other decisions affirming rights and liberties |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-16-11 12:35 PM |
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Wrong. The 2A is playing with dynamite. |
sharesunited |
Jan-16-11 01:39 PM |
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Except for the fact that the Second Amendment is not about hunting. |
PavePusher |
Jan-16-11 10:53 AM |
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No way to work |
Maine_Nurse |
Jan-16-11 11:30 AM |
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For over a decade, I've participated in DU discussions on this topic. I have not read a single post |
jody |
Jan-16-11 09:03 AM |
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Jan-16-11 09:19 AM |
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And for the ostensible "purpose" of going to war with the government. |
sharesunited |
Jan-16-11 10:34 AM |
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So, you have historical fact and evidence to refute his presentation... |
PavePusher |
Jan-16-11 10:55 AM |
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Very interesting - thanks for the info. |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-16-11 10:32 AM |
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Jan-16-11 09:13 AM |
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Why the infamous right-wing graphic in your signature? |
onehandle |
Jan-16-11 09:14 AM |
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You make a number of salient points. |
bluestate10 |
Jan-16-11 09:15 AM |
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And I truly appreciate the thoughtful response. n/t |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 09:22 AM |
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Oh God no... |
Maine_Nurse |
Jan-16-11 09:41 AM |
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Sorry, my self-defense requirements are not subject to... |
PavePusher |
Jan-16-11 11:01 AM |
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The only truly effective means of reducing gun crime would be to repeal the 2nd Amendment |
cowcommander |
Jan-16-11 09:20 AM |
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That response is an emotional rant devoid of any suggestions |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 09:25 AM |
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There isn't one, the best we can do is improve mental health care for Americans |
cowcommander |
Jan-16-11 09:38 AM |
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That is a much better answer than simply eradicating the 2nd which isn't going to happen |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 10:32 AM |
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Jan-16-11 07:08 PM |
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One man's absolutes are not everyone's absolutes. |
mmonk |
Jan-16-11 09:26 AM |
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The problem, as I see it.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-16-11 09:31 AM |
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Your third para is exactly what I'm asking |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 09:34 AM |
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I believe current regulations are sensible.... |
Uben |
Jan-16-11 09:32 AM |
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Here's how you tell |
notesdev |
Jan-16-11 10:02 AM |
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Jan-16-11 07:17 PM |
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I am generally against gun control, however, |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-16-11 10:35 AM |
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Define those principLES please. Only then can I tell you whether or not |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 10:41 AM |
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I mean |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-16-11 04:44 PM |
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The Democrats had the White House, the Senate and the House |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 04:50 PM |
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Less |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-16-11 10:57 AM |
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Jared Laughner is a gun owner, like you |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-16-11 11:49 AM |
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Not any more he isn't. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-16-11 12:13 PM |
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Jared Laughner cannot in any way, shape or form be described as sane |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 01:59 PM |
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You said 100% of gun owners agree - but "gun owner" is not synonymous with responsible or reasonable |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-16-11 06:51 PM |
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"gun owner" is not synonymous with responsible or reasonable |
shadowrider |
Jan-17-11 06:21 AM |
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One change I'd like to see |
burrfoot |
Jan-16-11 01:34 PM |
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A thoughtful response. Thank you for your reasoning and civility n/t |
shadowrider |
Jan-16-11 02:01 PM |
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