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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-11 11:18 PM
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16. But half the rate of firearms deaths. And that's the basic point. nt
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  -Lots of guns = lots of preventable deaths. Here's an example. MannyGoldstein  Jan-14-11 10:11 PM   #0 
  - That's a great stat Manny! But get ready for the automobile death comparisons.  sharesunited   Jan-14-11 10:26 PM   #1 
  - As it happens, Mass also has the safest roads in the country  MannyGoldstein   Jan-14-11 10:28 PM   #2 
  - Really?  pipoman   Jan-15-11 09:00 AM   #37 
     - link please? nt  MannyGoldstein   Jan-15-11 10:59 AM   #40 
        - I guess it is #18 with 457.1/100k  pipoman   Jan-15-11 11:30 AM   #42 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-15-11 05:25 AM   #29 
  - Certain posters  RSillsbee   Jan-15-11 05:49 AM   #30 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-15-11 05:56 AM   #32 
  - SU I normally start with Mexico and Nigeria both places with much higher deaths from  lawodevolution   Jan-15-11 08:40 AM   #34 
  - Could you explain your conclusions?  Straw Man   Jan-14-11 10:34 PM   #3 
  - You're mostly right - I'm assuming  MannyGoldstein   Jan-14-11 10:39 PM   #4 
  - Nailed it again. Guns as chosen means of suicide.  sharesunited   Jan-14-11 10:47 PM   #5 
  - Following the numbers is what I enjoy  MannyGoldstein   Jan-14-11 10:52 PM   #8 
     - You might enjoy this web site  Atypical Liberal   Jan-14-11 11:02 PM   #12 
     - If you enjoy the numbers, you should love this page  pipoman   Jan-15-11 09:04 AM   #39 
  - Accidental deaths  Straw Man   Jan-14-11 10:49 PM   #6 
  - Firearms are responsible for most suicide deaths  MannyGoldstein   Jan-14-11 10:51 PM   #7 
     - Doesn't anyone have the skill or initiative to tie a rope anymore?  sharesunited   Jan-14-11 11:17 PM   #15 
     - How about a hibachi? Just yesterday in Massachusetts, as a matter of fact:  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-14-11 11:25 PM   #19 
        - Stories like this need to remind readers that CO-1 is a deadly gas.  sharesunited   Jan-14-11 11:29 PM   #22 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-15-11 05:55 AM   #31 
  - Huh?  Straw Man   Jan-14-11 10:53 PM   #9 
  - You're misreading what I (awkwardly) wrote  MannyGoldstein   Jan-14-11 10:56 PM   #10 
     - It depends.  Straw Man   Jan-14-11 11:04 PM   #13 
  - Yet other countries with low gun ownership rates also have higher suicide rates.  krispos42   Jan-14-11 11:21 PM   #17 
  - Most notably Japan and some European countries n/t  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-14-11 11:34 PM   #24 
     - Found it- the suicide rates of OECD (rich) countries. The US is 19th out of 33:  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-14-11 11:57 PM   #26 
        - many of the countries listed above Japan have total gun bans also  lawodevolution   Jan-15-11 08:52 AM   #36 
  - And progressive Vermont has almost double the suicide rate of MA  friendly_iconoclast   Jan-14-11 11:28 PM   #21 
  - NH's non-gun suicide rate is higher than MA as well..  X_Digger   Jan-14-11 11:33 PM   #23 
  - "NH has a 50% higher suicide rate than Mass - consistent with the hypothesis that "loose guns kill""  lawodevolution   Jan-15-11 08:44 AM   #35 
  - Pro Gun Stats.....  K8-EEE   Jan-15-11 01:32 AM   #27 
  - Accidental firearm deaths are at 100 year lows.  Atypical Liberal   Jan-14-11 11:00 PM   #11 
  - A few things to keep in mind...  Straw Man   Jan-14-11 11:14 PM   #14 
  - But half the rate of firearms deaths. And that's the basic point. nt  MannyGoldstein   Jan-14-11 11:18 PM   #16 
     - The basic point?  Straw Man   Jan-14-11 11:27 PM   #20 
  - Faulty premise(s)..  X_Digger   Jan-14-11 11:24 PM   #18 
  - Faulty conclusions.  Straw Man   Jan-14-11 11:52 PM   #25 
  - That made absolutely no fucking sense at all.  PavePusher   Jan-15-11 02:23 AM   #28 
  - Bullshit.  Callisto32   Jan-15-11 06:48 AM   #33 
  - This was a good attempt Manny  lawodevolution   Jan-15-11 09:01 AM   #38 
     - It's worse than that...  Straw Man   Jan-15-11 11:28 AM   #41 

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