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24. Actual history is fascinating. MLK did own guns ...

MLK and His Guns
Adam Winkler
Professor of Law, UCLA
Posted: January 18, 2011 08:25 AM


Most people think King would be the last person to own a gun. Yet in the mid-1950s, as the civil rights movement heated up, King kept firearms for self-protection. In fact, he even applied for a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

A recipient of constant death threats, King had armed supporters take turns guarding his home and family. He had good reason to fear that the Klan in Alabama was targeting him for assassination.

William Worthy, a journalist who covered the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, reported that once, during a visit to King's parsonage, he went to sit down on an armchair in the living room and, to his surprise, almost sat on a loaded gun. Glenn Smiley, an adviser to King, described King's home as "an arsenal."

As I found researching my new book, Gunfight, in 1956, after King's house was bombed, King applied for a concealed carry permit in Alabama. The local police had discretion to determine who was a suitable person to carry firearms. King, a clergyman whose life was threatened daily, surely met the requirements of the law, but he was rejected nevertheless. At the time, the police used any wiggle room in the law to discriminate against African Americans.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was no stranger to the idea of self-defense. According to Annelieke Dirks, Even Martin Luther King Jr.the icon of nonviolenceemployed armed bodyguards and had guns in his house during the early stages of the Montgomery Bus Boycott in 1956. Glenn Smiley, an organizer of the strictly nonviolent and pacifist Fellowship of Reconciliation (FOR), observed during a house visit that the police did not allow King a weapon permit, but that the place is an arsenal."<3> Efforts from those like Smiley convinced Dr. King that any sort of weapons or self-defense could not be associated with someone like him in the position that he held. Dr. King agreed.
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  -The Glock 9mm and the like only gives false security to the Phony Tough and the Crazy Brave MrScorpio  Jan-12-11 06:00 AM   #0 
  - I agree 100%...which is why I think Dr. King led by example.  w8liftinglady   Jan-12-11 06:05 AM   #1 
  - Dr king had armed security who were armed citizens  lawodevolution   Jan-12-11 09:52 AM   #12 
  - How'd that work out for him? nt  onehandle   May-12-11 12:02 PM   #16 
     - not well enough unfortunately  gejohnston   May-12-11 08:26 PM   #50 
  - Actual history is fascinating. MLK did own guns ...  spin   May-12-11 03:56 PM   #24 
  - actual history is fascinating  HankyDubs   May-12-11 05:23 PM   #35 
  - Credit has to be given to Glenn Smiley ...  spin   May-12-11 06:12 PM   #41 
  - I hadn't read...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   May-12-11 05:51 PM   #37 
     - It's an interesting piece of info that deserves two posts ...  spin   May-12-11 05:57 PM   #38 
        - True enough. n/t  discntnt_irny_srcsm   May-12-11 06:12 PM   #40 
  - He certainly did!  discntnt_irny_srcsm   May-12-11 05:31 PM   #36 
  - can't argue with that - but only to add that it is also an  DrDan   Jan-12-11 06:13 AM   #2 
  - Psy Ops works. When the other side is allowed to spew fear-mongering hate,unchecked, 24/7/365  paparush   Jan-12-11 06:18 AM   #3 
  - So cops should not carry them? (nt)  The Straight Story   Jan-12-11 06:24 AM   #4 
  - We try so hard to want to fix the underlying problems that lead people to act violently...  NuclearDem   Jan-12-11 06:27 AM   #5 
  - And what are those "underlying causes"'of violence  lawodevolution   Jan-12-11 09:54 AM   #13 
     - Unemployment, a poor education system, and rundown inner cities  NuclearDem   Jan-12-11 10:29 AM   #15 
  - The Lamest Argument...  KharmaTrain   Jan-12-11 06:37 AM   #6 
  - "To arms".  Statistical   Jan-12-11 07:12 AM   #7 
  - Parse As You Will...  KharmaTrain   Jan-12-11 08:13 AM   #9 
     - Who, exactly, do you speak of?  Marengo   Jan-12-11 08:53 AM   #10 
     - You meanyhead, you're cramping their strawman argument by asking for facts.  friendly_iconoclast   May-12-11 01:38 PM   #19 
        - Sigh...Okay, If you insist...  Marengo   May-12-11 07:49 PM   #48 
     - It is actually extremely difficult  armueller2001   May-12-11 03:19 PM   #20 
     - what mental illness are you talking about?  gejohnston   May-12-11 07:10 PM   #46 
     - Still awaiting an answer to the question posed in post # 10  Marengo   May-12-11 07:51 PM   #49 
     - where do people get automatic weapons?  YllwFvr   May-12-11 10:26 PM   #52 
  - I'd love to see your opinion on this thread..  X_Digger   Jan-12-11 09:50 AM   #11 
  - I've got a 90lb German Shepard that sleeps two feet from me  rl6214   May-12-11 04:00 PM   #26 
  - OK so maybe not a Glock 9mm  gejohnston   May-12-11 04:18 PM   #28 
  - Your precognition must work better than mine...  PavePusher   May-12-11 06:46 PM   #42 
  - Do As You Want  Possumpoint   Jan-12-11 07:34 AM   #8 
  - Are you talking about civlian police who commonly carry Glocks and other similar pistols?  aikoaiko   Jan-12-11 09:58 AM   #14 
  - What about the S&W 9c ???  ileus   May-12-11 12:07 PM   #17 
  - Gandhi would not agree with you. nt  Remmah2   May-12-11 12:24 PM   #18 
  - Good thing I have a Glock .45 then!!  virginia mountainman   May-12-11 03:32 PM   #21 
  - Sorry I don't have any glocks. Just SIG's and 1911's. n/t  oneshooter   May-12-11 03:48 PM   #22 
  - Don't own a Glock but I do have a Springfield XD45  rl6214   May-12-11 04:04 PM   #27 
  - LC9, LCP and a FNX-9 here. No glocks so I am OK also. Whew!! n-t  Logical   May-12-11 05:00 PM   #31 
     - how is the LC9 vs LCP?  gejohnston   May-12-11 05:08 PM   #32 
     - The LCP knocks the crap out of my hand. It is not a fun gun....  Logical   May-12-11 07:02 PM   #44 
     - Thank God I'm safe too.  armueller2001   May-12-11 05:10 PM   #33 
        - Oh my AR15 is leaning against the dresser two feet away  rl6214   May-12-11 06:48 PM   #43 
        - Mine has a 20 full of 50gr JHP in the well, and a 30rd w/SS109 on the stock. n/t  oneshooter   May-12-11 07:33 PM   #47 
        - Nice guns! n-t  Logical   May-12-11 07:03 PM   #45 
  - Do you even know what a Glock is?  rl6214   May-12-11 03:55 PM   #23 
  - A glock is an evil assault rifle  armueller2001   May-12-11 04:18 PM   #29 
     - It doesn't have a shoulder thing that goes up, does it?!?!?!  eqfan592   May-12-11 04:25 PM   #30 
     - Worse- the .50 BMG ones can shoot down an airliner!  friendly_iconoclast   May-12-11 05:58 PM   #39 
     - No but it does have an evil assault clip NT  RSillsbee   May-12-11 10:27 PM   #53 
     - WTF?  Incitatus   May-12-11 10:51 PM   #54 
  - Can you expand on that cryptic statement please? Not sure who you are attacking. n-t  Logical   May-12-11 03:59 PM   #25 
  - If I sell my guns and I become victim of a violent crime, can I sue you?  lawodevolution   May-12-11 05:11 PM   #34 
  - Change that to anything made by Clerke or RG, and we will sort of agree.  gejohnston   May-12-11 08:33 PM   #51 
  - Locking  Moderator   May-12-11 11:15 PM   #55 

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