RSillsbee
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Wed Jan-12-11 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #14 |
| 19. Because the law would be meaningless w/out unilateral registration |
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which is against federal law
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| -So, members of this forum, is the "Gun Show Loophole" real? |
KansasVoter |
Jan-12-11 07:45 AM |
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Here is what a gun enthusiast told me yesterday |
liberal N proud |
Jan-12-11 07:53 AM |
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That does not sound right to me |
badtoworse |
Jan-12-11 08:03 AM |
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False |
27nitro |
Jan-12-11 08:45 AM |
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You're friend is wrong. |
aikoaiko |
Jan-12-11 09:02 AM |
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10 years in the federal pen |
guitar man |
Jan-12-11 09:40 AM |
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your friend is either mistaken or is a liar.... |
Flyboy_451 |
Jan-12-11 10:00 AM |
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Excellent/detailed/truthful post, sir! (n/t) |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-12-11 10:37 AM |
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Good response! |
Hangingon |
Jan-12-11 12:29 PM |
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That's a crock of shit |
slackmaster |
Jan-12-11 12:34 PM |
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Just posted what I was told by a gun enthusiast |
liberal N proud |
Jan-12-11 12:36 PM |
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Not true |
kudzu22 |
Jan-12-11 12:41 PM |
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Are you sure he was a "gun enthusiast"? ... |
spin |
Jan-12-11 08:04 PM |
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You can do that if |
old mark |
Jan-12-11 08:12 PM |
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No it is not real. |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 08:09 AM |
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So can someone who cannot pass a normal background check get a gun at a show? |
KansasVoter |
Jan-12-11 08:40 AM |
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Read the Wikipedia article.... |
PoliticAverse |
Jan-12-11 08:45 AM |
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A private sale |
RSillsbee |
Jan-12-11 09:18 AM |
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But this makes the background check worthless. True? |
KansasVoter |
Jan-12-11 09:48 AM |
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So you agree that private sellers should be allowed/required to call in checks to NICS? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-12-11 10:40 AM |
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Able to ? Yes |
RSillsbee |
Jan-12-11 11:32 AM |
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Should be allowed, can't be required |
kudzu22 |
Jan-12-11 12:47 PM |
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I've always thought NICS was a waste of time |
RSillsbee |
Jan-12-11 11:28 AM |
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Why would you say that? |
pipoman |
Jan-12-11 08:21 PM |
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I disagree |
RSillsbee |
Jan-12-11 08:46 PM |
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Not if you want to buy a new gun. |
GreenStormCloud |
Jan-12-11 12:53 PM |
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if only I was so lucky |
YllwFvr |
Jan-12-11 11:37 PM |
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Yes, that is true. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 01:04 PM |
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That according to self reports |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 03:43 PM |
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Maybe |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 09:19 AM |
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So basically, the store background check is worthless? |
KansasVoter |
Jan-12-11 09:48 AM |
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You might be right. |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 10:27 AM |
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Wow, scary! Thanks! |
KansasVoter |
Jan-12-11 11:51 AM |
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Simple explanation |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 01:03 PM |
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From a dealer no from a ... |
27nitro |
Jan-12-11 08:47 AM |
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Depends on the state. |
PoliticAverse |
Jan-12-11 08:49 AM |
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FFLs must do a background check on all sales, regardless of venue. |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-11 08:49 AM |
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You are correct. NT |
27nitro |
Jan-12-11 08:59 AM |
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From the wikipedia.org article |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 08:59 AM |
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Nor does the ATF break down those stats re straw sales, private sellers, or dealers. |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-11 12:34 PM |
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There is not a gun show loophole. |
aikoaiko |
Jan-12-11 08:57 AM |
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So why not require all sales of guns to require a back ground check? |
KansasVoter |
Jan-12-11 09:14 AM |
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Apparently there are not many people who wish it so. |
aikoaiko |
Jan-12-11 09:20 AM |
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Because the law would be meaningless w/out unilateral registration |
RSillsbee |
Jan-12-11 09:20 AM |
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Whoops I thought you were responding to me. |
aikoaiko |
Jan-12-11 09:55 AM |
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It is now, but |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 10:20 AM |
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Its unclear if the Commerce Clause would allow it as a Federal law |
aikoaiko |
Jan-12-11 10:40 AM |
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We've been here before |
RSillsbee |
Jan-12-11 11:21 AM |
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It is a state issue |
hack89 |
Jan-12-11 10:09 AM |
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If a high number of handguns |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 10:22 AM |
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No - it would involve interstate crime |
hack89 |
Jan-12-11 10:33 AM |
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How do you figure? |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 10:52 AM |
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None of which prevents me |
RSillsbee |
Jan-12-11 11:25 AM |
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Just like driving 70 in a 65 zone |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 11:52 AM |
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So it is back on you |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 12:34 PM |
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Not me, I bought a handgun at a garage sale |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 03:36 PM |
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Jan-12-11 03:58 PM |
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Jan-12-11 06:13 PM |
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Only states can make that requirement., the Feds can't force them |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 07:47 PM |
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My example of violating the speed limit |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 09:12 PM |
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Isn't that a stretch? |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 10:14 PM |
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Sorry, I'm not accusing anyone of anything. |
safeinOhio |
Jan-13-11 08:26 AM |
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Because states will inact the 10th on it and private sales will continue to be legal within the |
lawodevolution |
Jan-12-11 10:39 AM |
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It is possible. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 01:09 PM |
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Kentucky has a better system. |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 10:51 PM |
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I own 17 firearms...... |
Uben |
Jan-12-11 09:15 AM |
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Good post! |
KansasVoter |
Jan-12-11 09:23 AM |
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Your opinion represents |
safeinOhio |
Jan-12-11 10:25 AM |
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That's what I believe, as well. |
Uben |
Jan-12-11 10:36 AM |
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You *believe* his opinion represents the majority of American gun owners |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-14-11 02:34 AM |
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Please clarify. |
beevul |
Jan-13-11 08:35 PM |
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It's not a loophole. |
jeepnstein |
Jan-12-11 09:23 AM |
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No it is not |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-12-11 09:51 AM |
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Yes, guns can be bought at a show with no background check. No, that is not a "loophole". |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-12-11 10:35 AM |
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If it allows a purchaser to bypass a NICS then I call it a loophole |
RamboLiberal |
Jan-12-11 10:53 AM |
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If call you a jerk that doesn't make you a jerk... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-12-11 11:13 AM |
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I still call it a loophole |
RamboLiberal |
Jan-12-11 04:09 PM |
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OK, now you understand what a loophole is. |
ManiacJoe |
Jan-14-11 01:17 AM |
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It depends on what state the show is in, local laws, and the rules of the particular show |
slackmaster |
Jan-12-11 12:33 PM |
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Most states allow private sales...gunshow or not. |
ileus |
Jan-12-11 12:54 PM |
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Buying firearms at a gun show. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 01:00 PM |
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i believe that you can only sell a limited number of guns a year |
table1 |
Jan-12-11 08:12 PM |
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Not true |
pipoman |
Jan-12-11 09:39 PM |
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There is no set number |
one-eyed fat man |
Jan-12-11 09:53 PM |
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Simply put, no...there is no such thing...nt |
old mark |
Jan-12-11 08:11 PM |
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Depends whether the seller is a licensed dealer or a private seller |
Euromutt |
Jan-12-11 10:26 PM |
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Q & A |
russ1943 |
Jan-12-11 10:26 PM |
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Why don't they call it the "flea market loophole"? |
DissedByBush |
Jan-12-11 10:28 PM |
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Let me fix that question for you |
krispos42 |
Jan-12-11 11:07 PM |
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