| -Honestly!! ... Should people be allowed to own stuff like this? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-11-11 03:30 PM |
#0 |
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Personally, I don't have a need for any of it. |
notadmblnd |
Jan-11-11 03:31 PM |
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Name removed |
Jan-11-11 03:32 PM |
#2 |
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No. |
Ruby the Liberal |
Jan-11-11 03:36 PM |
#3 |
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You should do some research into Lewis and Clark, then |
derby378 |
Jan-11-11 03:39 PM |
#8 |
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"in the wilderness" exactly. Much of this country at the time was wilderness and |
CTyankee |
Jan-11-11 04:00 PM |
#32 |
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but the guns they carried |
YllwFvr |
Jan-12-11 04:18 AM |
#123 |
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"They knew what they were doing." Exactly. They knew what THEY were doing. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 08:36 AM |
#131 |
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UK has higher violent crime rate than the US. |
Statistical |
Jan-12-11 12:18 PM |
#140 |
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Doyou have a reliable stat on that? |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 01:13 PM |
#148 |
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That may well be true. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 01:25 PM |
#151 |
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Being vigilant about one's freedom does not necessarily mean being armed. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 01:44 PM |
#153 |
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That is true. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 01:58 PM |
#154 |
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Well, the analogy doesn't hold up very well if you are talking about our own |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 02:29 PM |
#157 |
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What makes you think the military will just go along. |
Statistical |
Jan-12-11 02:40 PM |
#158 |
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I am sure there would be some organized resistance in such a circumstance. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 02:47 PM |
#161 |
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Not that I am aware. |
Statistical |
Jan-12-11 02:56 PM |
#164 |
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I am commenting on the undesireability of the proliferation of guns and not talking about banning. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 03:01 PM |
#167 |
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What do you suggest? |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 03:15 PM |
#171 |
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good question, isn't it. No fair throwing up hands...what do you suggest? |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 04:08 PM |
#179 |
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I asked you first. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 04:23 PM |
#180 |
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well, you have advanced arguments that are yours, not mine. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 04:57 PM |
#183 |
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You should listen to Christina Green's father ('that murdered kid's parent') |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-11 05:13 PM |
#187 |
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"risky ground" |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 06:01 PM |
#191 |
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Well, that is an unacceptable argument, IMO. We MUST find a way to live in a free society without |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 06:57 PM |
#194 |
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Where we get those ideas. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 07:58 PM |
#196 |
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Yes, cave people did fear for their safety. We can all agree on that. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 09:22 PM |
#200 |
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I don't fear getting slaughtered. Why do you? |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-13-11 05:53 PM |
#225 |
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I think we have seen the evidence... |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 07:01 PM |
#232 |
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It really has not. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 03:00 PM |
#166 |
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Saturday's incident and many others like it are not a result of the drug war. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 03:07 PM |
#168 |
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Saturdays' incident is extremely rare, too. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 03:12 PM |
#169 |
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At this point, no, not unless you have metal detectors in the places where these events occur. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 03:23 PM |
#172 |
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I think it holds up even more so. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 02:55 PM |
#163 |
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In that case there would be instability if not anarchy. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 03:14 PM |
#170 |
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Absolutely. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 03:28 PM |
#173 |
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I don;t think the citizenry would have to fight US soldiers |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jan-13-11 04:43 AM |
#203 |
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I know it is your belief that gun reverence is the reason but I can think of many other |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 12:45 PM |
#236 |
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........Vietnam, Algeria, Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan.... Among others. Fancy that. nt |
SteveM |
Jan-14-11 05:15 PM |
#252 |
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Ah yes, they've been mentioned before. |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 06:55 PM |
#257 |
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Actually, guns were used for the most part to take game for food. nt |
SteveM |
Jan-14-11 05:13 PM |
#251 |
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Wilderness was not their primary concern. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 01:22 PM |
#150 |
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We are at a far, far place from that reality in the 18th century. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 02:16 PM |
#155 |
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If a majority of Americans believed what you believe then the 2nd would be repealed. |
Statistical |
Jan-12-11 02:41 PM |
#159 |
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Oh it's not inconvenient to me. Perhaps to the people who just got killed or wounded, but not me. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 02:53 PM |
#162 |
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No there is no evidence that banning guns lowers crime. |
Statistical |
Jan-12-11 03:00 PM |
#165 |
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Firstly, I am not talking about "banning." I'm talking about public safety issues. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 03:33 PM |
#174 |
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Unproven claim. |
Statistical |
Jan-12-11 03:40 PM |
#175 |
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Well, if European countries have lower rates of homicide than we do |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 03:58 PM |
#177 |
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But the same rationale still holds. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 03:57 PM |
#176 |
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Um, wasn't the AZ event open to armed people? |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 04:37 PM |
#182 |
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Thankfully, it was. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 04:58 PM |
#184 |
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Well, hello! The shooter had already been subdued! Hooray! |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 05:03 PM |
#185 |
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31 shots fired. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 06:08 PM |
#192 |
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"no votes." Of course. That is what I expected as this debate has degenerated further. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 07:29 PM |
#195 |
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Well we will just have to agree to disagree. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 08:23 PM |
#198 |
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I don't care what the "trend" is. The trend has been wrong in the past and has been corrected. |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 08:47 PM |
#199 |
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You have never been safer |
hack89 |
Jan-12-11 09:40 PM |
#201 |
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I'd like to see some backup information about this "decline" in violence. |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 08:30 AM |
#204 |
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The data comes from the DOJ and the FBI. |
hack89 |
Jan-13-11 11:27 AM |
#205 |
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not the one questioned but I can help here |
dmallind |
Jan-13-11 11:44 AM |
#206 |
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Thanks! I was wondering if any of this has been the subject of a sociological study. |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 12:20 PM |
#210 |
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Doubtless due to many factors. |
dmallind |
Jan-13-11 01:02 PM |
#215 |
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Wouldn't we really be interested in seeing the data of # of assaults/murder using |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 02:56 PM |
#220 |
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That's also available at the FBI.. usually table 20 or so under homicides.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-13-11 03:06 PM |
#221 |
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but not just homicides. Wouldn't it be relevant to include robberies, muggings, |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 03:49 PM |
#222 |
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That's why I added the link to the BJS.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-13-11 04:25 PM |
#224 |
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What was the cause of the spike for 1995? |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 06:59 PM |
#231 |
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Actually, 1993-1994 was the peak of violent crime, |
X_Digger |
Jan-13-11 07:42 PM |
#233 |
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What do you think it was in both cases? |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 12:42 PM |
#235 |
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If you read 'Freakanomics', they suggest Roe v Wade for the latter |
X_Digger |
Jan-14-11 02:00 PM |
#238 |
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The chart shows the bar spiking in 1995, falling and then rising again in 2006. |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 02:10 PM |
#239 |
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Let me draw you some lines.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-14-11 02:38 PM |
#240 |
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OK, the link does not break down offenses by type of weapon used. |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 02:58 PM |
#242 |
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Yes, the second one does.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-14-11 03:13 PM |
#243 |
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It's hard to see this without a side by side comparison... |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 03:21 PM |
#244 |
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That's correct.. both in raw numbers (with slight variability year to year) and .. |
X_Digger |
Jan-14-11 03:46 PM |
#245 |
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So it is consistent with the trend going down overall... |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 03:55 PM |
#246 |
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You're the one who asked.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-14-11 04:00 PM |
#247 |
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Yes, and since I posted that both other posters and I recalled a number of |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 04:41 PM |
#248 |
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And that decline in violent crime coupled with.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-14-11 05:06 PM |
#249 |
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Well, we shall see. I await further numbers, as should you, as a precaution. |
CTyankee |
Jan-14-11 06:44 PM |
#256 |
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17 years isn't enough data? |
X_Digger |
Jan-14-11 07:20 PM |
#258 |
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This is why I would like to see some interpretation beyond what we have already |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 01:06 PM |
#259 |
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Go to the primary sources, yourself (DOJ/FBI/CDC data).. find studies... |
X_Digger |
Jan-15-11 02:56 PM |
#264 |
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Are you saying that there are no sociological studies in which peer review |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 03:15 PM |
#265 |
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You'd think so, but look up confirmation bias.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-15-11 03:34 PM |
#266 |
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You seem to say that the NEJM is negligent in its duty to fairly present material |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 04:25 PM |
#267 |
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I think it fair to say that the NEJM had a fairly evident bias against guns in the 90's |
X_Digger |
Jan-15-11 04:55 PM |
#268 |
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Well, epidemiologists are in schools of Public Health...we have one here at Yale. |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 05:05 PM |
#269 |
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If it were studied as a behavioral issue, that would make sense.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-15-11 05:15 PM |
#270 |
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Honestly, you do your side NO favor by showing the Tooth Fairy thing! It suggests |
CTyankee |
Jan-15-11 07:11 PM |
#271 |
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Perhaps you missed my point.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-15-11 08:35 PM |
#272 |
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again, I am not a sociologist but I don't think these studies are treated strictly as a |
CTyankee |
Jan-16-11 09:26 AM |
#273 |
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Not at all, you made my point for me.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-16-11 10:36 AM |
#274 |
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I'll be happy to take a look and try to understand what you mean here. |
CTyankee |
Jan-16-11 11:15 AM |
#275 |
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Don't put words in my mouth, thanks. |
X_Digger |
Jan-16-11 07:25 PM |
#277 |
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You did not cite where those quotes were from... |
CTyankee |
Jan-16-11 08:05 PM |
#278 |
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Those quotes were mine, from the previous posts.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-16-11 08:47 PM |
#279 |
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I have not read the Kellerman piece that you constantly refer to... |
CTyankee |
Jan-17-11 08:52 AM |
#280 |
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Down, significantly - it's in the UCR link. nt |
dmallind |
Jan-14-11 09:58 AM |
#234 |
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Now that the data has been provided, do you agree that voilent crime is at its lowest and declining? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:00 PM |
#208 |
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See my earlier answer. I am looking for an explanation from social scientists |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 12:23 PM |
#211 |
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Then we are in agreement! Horray! |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:28 PM |
#212 |
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I haven't had a chance to look at all the data. Are assaults/murders |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 12:44 PM |
#213 |
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It is broken down in several ways. Its actually quite good data. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 01:37 PM |
#218 |
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You speak of "the collapse of our society." In that vein... |
SteveM |
Jan-14-11 05:33 PM |
#253 |
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Where do you think Lewis kept that rifle when he wasn't in the wilderness? |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-13-11 11:58 AM |
#207 |
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Of course. Guns were useful items, providing food. I have no idea where his home was, do you? |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 12:48 PM |
#214 |
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He lived in many places. I would assume he had it with him in St. Louis. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-13-11 01:10 PM |
#216 |
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Well, I might not be understanding the point you had about him keeping his gun at home. |
CTyankee |
Jan-13-11 02:48 PM |
#219 |
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I would argue he didn't own it for hunting. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jan-13-11 03:59 PM |
#223 |
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A soldier, in an army? would he then have a gun "issued" to him? |
CTyankee |
Jan-16-11 07:09 PM |
#276 |
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do you think they envisioned the massacre from Saturday - to include a U.S. Congresswoman? |
DrDan |
Jan-11-11 04:01 PM |
#33 |
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Lewis and Clark, the two deadliest machine gun toting dudes to ever go West. |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-11-11 04:12 PM |
#44 |
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Behold, the Girandoni Air Rifle! |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-11-11 04:29 PM |
#55 |
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And they traded grenades for horses too! |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-11-11 09:35 PM |
#114 |
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Please elucidate.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 09:44 PM |
#116 |
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Please hallucinate . . |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-12-11 01:04 AM |
#122 |
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At least your screen name matches your comment. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-12-11 04:29 AM |
#124 |
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Do you EVER have a nice thing to say about others? |
Crystal Clarity |
Jan-12-11 12:14 PM |
#139 |
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All the time. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-12-11 12:50 PM |
#145 |
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Attacking his screen name means you are attacking him |
Crystal Clarity |
Jan-12-11 01:08 PM |
#146 |
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SO you accuse me of a personal attack by personally attacking me? WTF? |
cleanhippie |
Jan-12-11 01:12 PM |
#147 |
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So you concede that Lewis & Clark carried a semi-automatic rifle? |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-11 08:20 AM |
#130 |
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No, because they didn't. Not even in your wildest dreams. |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-12-11 05:12 PM |
#186 |
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Do you contend that they didn't in fact carry a Girandoni? n/t |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-11 05:47 PM |
#189 |
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Hey, look! Facts won out again! |
cleanhippie |
Jan-13-11 12:01 PM |
#209 |
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With till he finds out that they had an ND with it |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-13-11 06:47 PM |
#229 |
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Ummm....OK |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-12-11 12:21 AM |
#120 |
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Maybe they did! |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 01:27 PM |
#152 |
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That was a joke, sir. Lewis and Clark almost starved to death in Idaho. The natives here saved them. |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-12-11 05:49 PM |
#190 |
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If you're such a scholar.. whip out your Journals of Lewis and Clark.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-12-11 06:12 PM |
#193 |
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Hahahahaha. |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-13-11 03:03 AM |
#202 |
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Obviously, The NRA used a time machine to go back and edit those journals. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-13-11 01:37 PM |
#217 |
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HA! nt |
SteveM |
Jan-14-11 05:42 PM |
#255 |
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Nah! That's why some use "assault weapons:" you can fit ANY weapon in... |
SteveM |
Jan-14-11 05:39 PM |
#254 |
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Psst, hate to burst your grr with facts.. |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 04:50 PM |
#68 |
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Sorry |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-13-11 06:49 PM |
#230 |
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Our fore fathers understood clearly what "well regulated" meant. |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 03:48 PM |
#17 |
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"Seemingly, "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" always seems to be missed... |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 05:32 PM |
#79 |
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Seems like I've heard that line of reasoning before |
RSillsbee |
Jan-11-11 10:04 PM |
#119 |
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Corrections to your post... |
SteveM |
Jan-14-11 05:11 PM |
#250 |
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When nature cheats ya....... |
TheCowsCameHome |
Jan-11-11 03:36 PM |
#4 |
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That's the only reason I can think of |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 03:39 PM |
#6 |
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Only if they really want it, can afford it, and can pass all the federal background checks |
slackmaster |
Jan-11-11 03:37 PM |
#5 |
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There you go again, addressing reality. |
uppityperson |
Jan-11-11 03:41 PM |
#11 |
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I want my guns!! |
Kingofalldems |
Jan-11-11 03:39 PM |
#7 |
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Yes, civilians should be able to own them. |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 03:40 PM |
#9 |
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The opinion of the SCOTUS? |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 03:41 PM |
#10 |
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We pine for *your* "expert" opinion ...... n/t |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 03:52 PM |
#20 |
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I'm sure you do |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 03:53 PM |
#23 |
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Citizens United? |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 04:08 PM |
#39 |
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You think they got that one right? |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 04:09 PM |
#40 |
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Yes I do |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 04:17 PM |
#48 |
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Do you think they got Citizens United right? |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 04:23 PM |
#53 |
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To me that one is a toss up. |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 04:47 PM |
#66 |
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The ACLU does. Do you think they got Kelo v. City of New London right? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-11-11 08:19 PM |
#103 |
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Yeah, they probably got that right. |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 09:09 PM |
#112 |
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Did they get Lawrence vs. Texas terribly wrong too? |
Pancho Sanza |
Jan-11-11 05:16 PM |
#73 |
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Kelo. |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 05:34 PM |
#81 |
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The prohibitionists are unwilling to discuss Kelo v. City of New London. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-11-11 08:12 PM |
#102 |
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+1 |
Hangingon |
Jan-11-11 03:43 PM |
#14 |
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you could say the same thing about rocket launchers, poisons, and any number of lethal |
onenote |
Jan-11-11 03:59 PM |
#31 |
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What inanimate object causes more deaths per year |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 04:28 PM |
#54 |
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Would you argue intent? |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 04:31 PM |
#58 |
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So, it's O.K. to have things kill due to inattention and irresponsibility.... |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 05:37 PM |
#82 |
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Because you say so? |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 09:02 PM |
#110 |
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Intent is irrelevant |
Marengo |
Jan-12-11 08:58 AM |
#133 |
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automobiles are at least as highly regulated as are guns if not moreso |
onenote |
Jan-11-11 04:36 PM |
#62 |
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Actually, in almost all jurisdictions you can own and operate vehicles |
kelly1mm |
Jan-11-11 04:53 PM |
#69 |
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No, they really aren't. |
beevul |
Jan-11-11 06:07 PM |
#92 |
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Can you explain the need for a 30 round clip? |
walldude |
Jan-11-11 04:05 PM |
#36 |
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Same as the need for anyone to own a Corvette ..... |
oldhippie |
Jan-11-11 04:20 PM |
#51 |
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So you are tequating the need to fire more rounds to owning |
walldude |
Jan-11-11 04:29 PM |
#56 |
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What is "need?" |
oldhippie |
Jan-11-11 04:34 PM |
#59 |
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The speed limit no greater than 75 mph |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 04:35 PM |
#60 |
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I'll answer that with a question |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 04:31 PM |
#57 |
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Silencers have been illegal since 1938. The SCOTUS doesn't agree with you. |
slampoet |
Jan-11-11 04:58 PM |
#71 |
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They're not illegal.. highly regulated. n/t |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 05:14 PM |
#72 |
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No, they really haven't. |
beevul |
Jan-11-11 06:14 PM |
#97 |
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Why would anyone put a suppressor on a single shot .22? |
jayfish |
Jan-11-11 03:42 PM |
#12 |
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That's a Ruger Mk3 (w/ 10rd clip) n/t |
Spoonman |
Jan-11-11 03:56 PM |
#27 |
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Looks like a Mrk II Bull Barrel to me |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-11-11 04:17 PM |
#49 |
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and it's a magazine, not a clip |
deaniac21 |
Jan-11-11 05:22 PM |
#76 |
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It's a 22/45 Mk. III |
Euromutt |
Jan-12-11 03:59 PM |
#178 |
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Yeah, that's pretty funny! |
Dappleganger |
Jan-11-11 03:56 PM |
#28 |
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Suppressors are safety devices. They protect your hearing. |
PavePusher |
Jan-13-11 06:32 PM |
#228 |
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The M1911-A1 |
Ryano42 |
Jan-11-11 03:43 PM |
#13 |
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So you oppose handugns with double stack magazine? |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-11-11 04:15 PM |
#45 |
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I think high-caps have a place... |
Ryano42 |
Jan-11-11 04:37 PM |
#63 |
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If what has been released is correct, his high capacity mag failed, jamming the weapon |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-11-11 04:50 PM |
#67 |
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Personally, I find them heavy. |
beevul |
Jan-11-11 06:13 PM |
#96 |
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Ahh, it's the "My guns aren't bad, it's all yours that are evil" syndrome. |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 04:56 PM |
#70 |
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Would you like to apply the 14th Amendment to that... |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 05:39 PM |
#83 |
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"We treat car ownership and driver training with greater respect than firearm ownership" |
YllwFvr |
Jan-12-11 04:45 AM |
#126 |
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car ownership? |
bossy22 |
Jan-12-11 01:20 PM |
#149 |
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On car ownership. |
Atypical Liberal |
Jan-12-11 08:06 PM |
#197 |
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Another yes here. |
joe_sixpack |
Jan-11-11 03:43 PM |
#15 |
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Yes, they should |
kctim |
Jan-11-11 03:47 PM |
#16 |
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Giving up liberty? |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 03:50 PM |
#18 |
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Yup. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-11-11 04:03 PM |
#34 |
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Geez.... |
sadbear |
Jan-11-11 04:07 PM |
#38 |
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You have liberty in that no one can force you to buy that which you so abhor. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-11-11 04:39 PM |
#64 |
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That is the exact same argument the teabaggers make about health care. |
Pancho Sanza |
Jan-11-11 05:19 PM |
#74 |
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Not getting your point... |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-11-11 05:19 PM |
#75 |
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Actually, neither am I, now. Apparently I lost track of who said what in the thread |
Pancho Sanza |
Jan-11-11 06:24 PM |
#99 |
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Supressors don't make a firearm silent- that's a hollywood trope. |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 05:55 PM |
#87 |
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The Glock is pretty quiet with the right ammo... but the .45 is still quite a thumper. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-11-11 06:11 PM |
#94 |
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That's a strawman. |
TheWraith |
Jan-11-11 08:48 PM |
#109 |
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only 3 a second? |
YllwFvr |
Jan-12-11 04:48 AM |
#127 |
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Yes, they should. |
ixion |
Jan-11-11 03:50 PM |
#19 |
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well, they certainly aren't needed for hunting anything but man... |
hlthe2b |
Jan-11-11 03:52 PM |
#21 |
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No-one's ever had to defend themselves against dozens? |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 05:41 PM |
#84 |
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I've never had to hunt any person nor had the desire to... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-11-11 06:05 PM |
#91 |
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i think a lot of people who buy it do so because it makes them feel Tough , "manly" etc |
JI7 |
Jan-11-11 03:53 PM |
#22 |
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Most of the ones I see getting into it are doing it for self defense |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-11-11 04:41 PM |
#65 |
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simply put -- no. nt |
xchrom |
Jan-11-11 03:54 PM |
#24 |
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Yes. nm |
Richard Steele |
Jan-11-11 03:55 PM |
#25 |
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Yes, why not? |
Dappleganger |
Jan-11-11 03:55 PM |
#26 |
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Why not? |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 05:42 PM |
#85 |
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Not if proper ear wear is worn. |
Dappleganger |
Jan-11-11 06:46 PM |
#100 |
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I end up wearing plugs AND muffs at my indoor range. |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 08:00 PM |
#101 |
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I'm in military aviation maintenance. |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 08:29 PM |
#106 |
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We use double as well... |
Dappleganger |
Jan-11-11 08:48 PM |
#108 |
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Exactly. n/t |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 09:04 PM |
#111 |
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no |
DrDan |
Jan-11-11 03:58 PM |
#29 |
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Some yes, some no |
EstimatedProphet |
Jan-11-11 03:59 PM |
#30 |
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Technically, you can have silencers... |
TheMightyFavog |
Jan-11-11 04:03 PM |
#35 |
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not at all |
timo |
Jan-11-11 06:05 PM |
#90 |
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Silencers are not illegal.. highly regulated, but legal. n/t |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 06:02 PM |
#88 |
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RPG's, rocket launchers. tanks |
upi402 |
Jan-11-11 04:06 PM |
#37 |
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Soooo.... If I am 65 years old, maybe recently had a hip replacement surgury... |
PavePusher |
Jan-11-11 05:44 PM |
#86 |
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exactly |
YllwFvr |
Jan-12-11 04:54 AM |
#128 |
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No. Rec'd. Surprise! Still at 0. Disgusted. n/t |
Catherina |
Jan-11-11 04:09 PM |
#41 |
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LOLZ at the fear |
Rebubula |
Jan-11-11 04:09 PM |
#42 |
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Yeah, I don't get it... |
Last_Stand |
Jan-11-11 04:17 PM |
#47 |
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Yes. |
Little Star |
Jan-11-11 04:11 PM |
#43 |
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Don't care either way. |
Celeborn Skywalker |
Jan-11-11 04:17 PM |
#46 |
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Honestly or dishonestly, absolutely not! |
damntexdem |
Jan-11-11 04:18 PM |
#50 |
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the NRA... HA! |
YllwFvr |
Jan-12-11 05:14 AM |
#129 |
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For many, happiness is indeed a warm gun. |
LanternWaste |
Jan-11-11 04:21 PM |
#52 |
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Yes |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jan-11-11 04:35 PM |
#61 |
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Yes |
Xela |
Jan-11-11 05:30 PM |
#77 |
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Yes |
roninjedi |
Jan-11-11 05:31 PM |
#78 |
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YES |
RamboLiberal |
Jan-11-11 05:33 PM |
#80 |
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Yes |
guitar man |
Jan-11-11 06:04 PM |
#89 |
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Thanks. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-11-11 06:08 PM |
#93 |
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I love the finish |
guitar man |
Jan-11-11 06:13 PM |
#95 |
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Yes. N/t |
beevul |
Jan-11-11 06:18 PM |
#98 |
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Yes n/t |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jan-11-11 08:20 PM |
#104 |
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Yes. n/t |
X_Digger |
Jan-11-11 08:27 PM |
#105 |
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You bet your ass they should |
Ter |
Jan-11-11 08:30 PM |
#107 |
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I want the silenced Ruger at the bottom |
DissedByBush |
Jan-11-11 09:28 PM |
#113 |
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Did you notice that when you started this thread in the GD section at DU . . . |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-11-11 09:41 PM |
#115 |
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More rational replies? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-11-11 10:01 PM |
#118 |
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Say yeth to meth! |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-12-11 01:02 AM |
#121 |
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Considering your posts #44 and the follow ups, your hypocrisy is astounding. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-12-11 04:38 AM |
#125 |
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I notice how this thread has devolved into a LOT of talk literally about |
CTyankee |
Jan-12-11 08:51 AM |
#132 |
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Amen, brother. |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-12-11 05:16 PM |
#188 |
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I have no problem with any of it. |
Glassunion |
Jan-11-11 09:47 PM |
#117 |
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Everything in the second photo is as tightly controlled as bombs, howitzers, and grenades. |
benEzra |
Jan-12-11 10:56 AM |
#134 |
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Ever poke an ant hill or bees nest for sheer enjoyment? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-12-11 11:24 AM |
#135 |
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I know exactly what you mean... |
Flyboy_451 |
Jan-12-11 11:51 AM |
#136 |
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The only approriate response to that picture: |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-12-11 12:28 PM |
#142 |
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Snort! LOL... |
benEzra |
Jan-12-11 12:01 PM |
#137 |
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Mission Accomplished. ;>) n/t |
PavePusher |
Jan-15-11 01:24 PM |
#262 |
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Yes. But w/a caveat... |
Crystal Clarity |
Jan-12-11 12:07 PM |
#138 |
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I use extended magazines |
Abq_Sarah |
Jan-13-11 06:17 PM |
#227 |
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Please submit your Question to the U.S. Department of Neccesity... |
PavePusher |
Jan-15-11 01:21 PM |
#261 |
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Sure, why not? |
jeepnstein |
Jan-12-11 12:22 PM |
#141 |
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Absolutely |
kudzu22 |
Jan-12-11 12:28 PM |
#143 |
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It's a Mac-11 (submachinegun) |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Jan-12-11 12:28 PM |
#144 |
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Tricked out with |
Abq_Sarah |
Jan-13-11 06:11 PM |
#226 |
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Yes. |
spin |
Jan-12-11 02:24 PM |
#156 |
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Yes. n/t |
needledriver |
Jan-12-11 02:43 PM |
#160 |
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Yes. |
WheelWalker |
Jan-12-11 04:25 PM |
#181 |
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Arguments like this is why anti-gunners always lose. |
Callisto32 |
Jan-14-11 01:11 PM |
#237 |
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The Silencers, no. That auto big ass thing in the 2nd one no, long clips no. |
xultar |
Jan-14-11 02:56 PM |
#241 |
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Why not suppressors? |
PavePusher |
Jan-15-11 01:13 PM |
#260 |
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no silencers? |
timo |
Jan-15-11 01:34 PM |
#263 |
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No, of course not |
krispos42 |
Jan-17-11 11:17 PM |
#281 |
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There's so many pop guns |
Katya Mullethov |
Jan-17-11 11:40 PM |
#282 |
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