Euromutt
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Wed Nov-17-10 04:13 PM
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| 42. Bingo; resisting a robbery isn't about protecting your wallet |
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It's about resisting a threat of unlawful violence to your life and limb. It's not that the contents of my wallet are worth more to me than the robber's physical well-being, it's that my physical well-being is worth more to me than his. And dammit, with reason; I'm not the one violating the social contract in that kind of situation.
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| -Is the theft of your money really worth shooting someone over? |
mvccd1000 |
Nov-17-10 03:28 AM |
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No. |
jazzhound |
Nov-17-10 03:33 AM |
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delete - wrong place |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-17-10 04:23 PM |
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Money is just stuff |
RSillsbee |
Nov-17-10 03:44 AM |
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Bingo; resisting a robbery isn't about protecting your wallet |
Euromutt |
Nov-17-10 04:13 PM |
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Or put another way, how do you know he just wants your wallet? |
TheWraith |
Nov-17-10 11:08 PM |
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If he doesn't shoot you you can identify him |
tularetom |
Nov-17-10 03:58 AM |
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Nice try. His access to a gun is the problem, not whether or not to shoot him. |
sharesunited |
Nov-17-10 04:01 AM |
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"in the hands of the public " |
Remmah2 |
Nov-17-10 06:57 AM |
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Or a knife, or a sharpened screwdriver, or a pipe wrench. |
benEzra |
Nov-17-10 07:07 AM |
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Your continued slagging of unions and union made products is noted |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-17-10 08:12 AM |
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Elitist drivel. |
Callisto32 |
Nov-17-10 10:07 AM |
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fixing this for you -- |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Nov-17-10 10:28 AM |
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If you don't trust ME |
MicaelS |
Nov-17-10 12:02 PM |
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No, he was the problem. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-17-10 12:23 PM |
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"his access to a gun is the problem" |
lawodevolution |
Nov-17-10 01:51 PM |
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Your typical armed robber wouldn't have access to guns if he was in jail |
slackmaster |
Nov-17-10 04:45 PM |
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NO! |
DrDan |
Nov-17-10 04:21 AM |
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So you seem to be implying that we should trust to the good intentions.... |
PavePusher |
Nov-17-10 08:46 AM |
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He has no answers. |
oneshooter |
Nov-17-10 08:55 AM |
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Is it worth risking your life... |
geckosfeet |
Nov-17-10 06:23 AM |
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You seem to believe |
one-eyed fat man |
Nov-17-10 07:31 AM |
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The evil bastards are the ones who will just get a bigger gun. |
geckosfeet |
Nov-17-10 05:01 PM |
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Why keep enabling them? |
one-eyed fat man |
Nov-17-10 07:03 PM |
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God dammit no. I believe people should be able to arms themselves and |
geckosfeet |
Nov-17-10 08:35 PM |
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What does "a bigger gun" have to do with it? |
PavePusher |
Nov-17-10 08:35 PM |
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There are over 20,000 Federal, State, and local gun laws. How many more do you want? n/t |
oneshooter |
Nov-17-10 05:19 PM |
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It is almost never justifiable to shoot to stop a theft. |
benEzra |
Nov-17-10 07:10 AM |
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Not sure if serious |
lepus |
Nov-17-10 07:44 AM |
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Agree or disagree with the law, but what you describe is a crime in most jurisdictions. |
benEzra |
Nov-17-10 08:06 AM |
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Stand your ground and castle defense are all geared around insuring that there is little ambiguity |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-17-10 08:16 AM |
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Neither stand your ground nor castle doctrine laws apply.... |
benEzra |
Nov-17-10 09:11 AM |
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Some wordings are more flexible than others |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-17-10 09:42 AM |
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And that is exactly a major part of the problem. |
PavePusher |
Nov-17-10 08:50 AM |
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You can legally use force to stop simple theft, just not lethal force. (n/t) |
benEzra |
Nov-17-10 10:03 AM |
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Correct. You, just like the cops can use reasonable force |
jancantor |
Nov-18-10 12:22 AM |
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What insurance deductable? |
lepus |
Nov-17-10 11:42 AM |
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Homeowner's. If somebody steals my stuff, I pay a $250 deductible and replace it. |
benEzra |
Nov-17-10 01:11 PM |
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The problem with your argument is a positive constitutional defense in my state. |
lepus |
Nov-17-10 02:24 PM |
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I am in a situation similar to yours. |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-17-10 08:20 AM |
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Texas Law |
oneshooter |
Nov-17-10 09:07 AM |
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This is the part that is overlooked by most who as the question in the OP. |
ManiacJoe |
Nov-17-10 03:12 PM |
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Money is a material manifestation of time. What is life, if not a finite chunk of time? |
slackmaster |
Nov-17-10 08:42 AM |
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+1. As I've said many times. n/t |
PavePusher |
Nov-17-10 08:51 AM |
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That is not all.... |
oneshooter |
Nov-17-10 08:59 AM |
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Why take them at their word, indeed! |
X_Digger |
Nov-17-10 09:08 AM |
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Never have understood this |
Kennah |
Nov-17-10 11:04 AM |
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And there you touch on an interesting point |
Euromutt |
Nov-17-10 04:10 PM |
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Ban money,,, it's the only way we'll be safe. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Nov-17-10 01:40 PM |
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Then we'll just end up asking the same questions about wampum and beaver pelts (n/t) |
Euromutt |
Nov-17-10 11:54 PM |
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Yes? |
Demstud |
Nov-17-10 02:14 PM |
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How about if we ask the police, who almost always shoot bankrobbers? N/T |
cognoscere |
Nov-17-10 03:17 PM |
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If they shot an unarmed, fleeing thief, they'd be in hot water in most jurisdictions. |
benEzra |
Nov-17-10 03:52 PM |
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Yeah, one can shoot a feeing suspect ... |
Kennah |
Nov-17-10 04:54 PM |
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Utah fired into the air because he did not want to shot his friend. |
ManiacJoe |
Nov-17-10 06:05 PM |
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I will not trust the criminal to not try to harm me after getting my money. |
Hoopla Phil |
Nov-17-10 04:25 PM |
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"Is the theft of your money really worth shooting someone over?" |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-17-10 04:39 PM |
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No. |
AtheistCrusader |
Nov-17-10 05:08 PM |
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sheesh |
lightfighter11b |
Nov-17-10 06:57 PM |
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Many people have been shot and killed after complying with their attacker's orders... |
east texas lib |
Nov-17-10 08:04 PM |
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They didn't want cigs, they wanted juice and street cred. |
SteveM |
Nov-18-10 05:39 PM |
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