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Wed Sep-29-10 11:12 AM
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| 98. See, as the mother of a (now-grown) son, I just don't get |
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that and I never did. If mine ever even looked like he was going to even just call a stupid name, he got called on it and reigned in. I just wasn't gonna put up with any of that shit, period. I can't stand these "my little angel can do no wrong" parents, I just can't. Kids that age, especially boys, can, indeed, be little hellions unless they're controlled by a strong parental hand. This little terrorist's parents obviously didn't do their freaking job.
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| -Elderly Woman Shoots 12-Year-Old Boy who was Constantly Harassing Her |
RamboLiberal |
Sep-29-10 09:43 AM |
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That's one way to respond to bullying, once the bullies cross a certain line. |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 09:45 AM |
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Hard to condone her shooting him, but I can certainly empathize |
hlthe2b |
Sep-29-10 09:48 AM |
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The kid's been charged, but not the woman. |
sinkingfeeling |
Sep-29-10 09:55 AM |
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Good... Some DA was using common sense |
hlthe2b |
Sep-29-10 10:00 AM |
#30 |
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THANK GOODNESS! |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Sep-29-10 06:28 PM |
#149 |
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Yup....the result of the combined failure of social and parental controls. |
whathehell |
Sep-30-10 09:10 AM |
#163 |
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It's sad that the kid's family is refusing too hold him at fault for anything |
Lorien |
Sep-30-10 09:13 AM |
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It was self defense, what do you want? NT |
hendo |
Sep-30-10 09:34 AM |
#168 |
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That would be the best outcome |
Warpy |
Sep-29-10 10:20 AM |
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actually, I am on her side. older woman living alone and some |
roguevalley |
Sep-30-10 01:40 AM |
#159 |
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You're not really suggesting that shooting a 12 year old kid |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-29-10 09:48 AM |
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As I wrote previously, bricks can kill. Once you attack with deadly force, you are in a gunfight. |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 09:50 AM |
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It has to be you, not the house |
treestar |
Sep-29-10 10:54 AM |
#82 |
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"...the boy threw the bricks and broke Matthews' windows" |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:56 AM |
#86 |
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Exactly. |
cstanleytech |
Sep-29-10 11:28 PM |
#158 |
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Successfully, no less - the article says she was struck by one. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Oct-01-10 07:48 PM |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA |
bobbolink |
Sep-29-10 11:18 AM |
#100 |
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She did call 911. Cops came, kids ran, cops left, kids came back. |
Bold Lib |
Sep-29-10 12:57 PM |
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Hey !!! You read the article ! That's no fair. |
KurtNYC |
Sep-30-10 08:40 AM |
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nobody is suggesting that |
eShirl |
Sep-29-10 09:51 AM |
#10 |
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No shooting is not appropriate but |
RamboLiberal |
Sep-29-10 09:54 AM |
#19 |
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Police are calling it self-defense. |
sinkingfeeling |
Sep-29-10 09:56 AM |
#25 |
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I would agree |
Sherman A1 |
Sep-29-10 10:04 AM |
#37 |
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It was. |
Bold Lib |
Sep-29-10 12:58 PM |
#122 |
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It wasn't necessarily for throwing that one particular brick, |
Tuvok Obama |
Sep-29-10 10:02 AM |
#31 |
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Did you READ the story? |
DainBramaged |
Sep-29-10 10:02 AM |
#34 |
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Me, too! |
hamsterjill |
Sep-29-10 01:43 PM |
#135 |
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the thing that's really sad is that even this probably won't stop them. Their parents |
Lorien |
Sep-30-10 09:19 AM |
#166 |
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Yep. I'm anti-gun also, but when someone tries to burn your home down and |
Lorien |
Sep-30-10 09:18 AM |
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Well he certainly wasn't using the brick to build her a new sidewalk. |
Dappleganger |
Sep-29-10 10:04 AM |
#38 |
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a 12 year old is old enough to know better. |
Ganja Ninja |
Sep-29-10 10:13 AM |
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He brought a brick to a gunfight |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:15 AM |
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"A" 12 year old, normally no. "That" 12 year old - he bought his ticket |
Obamanaut |
Sep-29-10 10:16 AM |
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In self-defense, no |
WolverineDG |
Sep-29-10 10:55 AM |
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a brick can kill. As can fire -- the punk burned her grill up last year and |
northernlights |
Sep-29-10 11:19 AM |
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For throwing a brick *at someone*, absolutely. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Sep-29-10 11:52 AM |
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Wow, do you HAVE a grandma? |
TalkingDog |
Sep-29-10 02:32 PM |
#137 |
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I think she did what was necessary. nt |
tblue37 |
Sep-29-10 03:48 PM |
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Fortunately in this case, the justice |
Riftaxe |
Sep-29-10 05:10 PM |
#142 |
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Do you think that a thrown brick is not deadly force? n/t |
PavePusher |
Sep-29-10 09:31 PM |
#153 |
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actually, you are forgetting that this kid was burning her stuff |
roguevalley |
Sep-30-10 01:43 AM |
#160 |
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How odd, the last time I heard a brick with enough force upside the head could kill. |
cstanleytech |
Sep-29-10 11:27 PM |
#157 |
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I'd like to know how it came to this...how the cops did nothing...how the kids |
joeybee12 |
Sep-29-10 09:47 AM |
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And of course, how did those kids get their hands... |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 09:48 AM |
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Sounds like it was going on for a long, long time...n/t |
joeybee12 |
Sep-29-10 10:24 AM |
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Google Tracey Thurman. |
HughBeaumont |
Sep-29-10 10:49 AM |
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An extreme response which I don't condone.. |
lpbk2713 |
Sep-29-10 09:49 AM |
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She Should Hvae Shot the Parents, too |
we can do it |
Sep-29-10 11:57 AM |
#113 |
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There's still time for that |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 12:02 PM |
#115 |
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Agree |
get the red out |
Sep-29-10 01:38 PM |
#134 |
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I have to admit that was the first thing I thought of. (n/t) |
spin |
Sep-29-10 06:20 PM |
#147 |
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People are forced to do extreme things in extreme situations. This was not |
Bold Lib |
Sep-29-10 01:03 PM |
#124 |
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I see they also set her garage on fire.. |
Upton |
Sep-29-10 09:49 AM |
#7 |
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That kid is |
femrap |
Sep-29-10 09:54 AM |
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Good idea |
get the red out |
Sep-29-10 09:57 AM |
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This. I agree with all of this. |
knitter4democracy |
Sep-29-10 10:29 PM |
#156 |
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garBage...not garage |
alcibiades_mystery |
Sep-29-10 10:08 AM |
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We don't know who is guilty of that |
treestar |
Sep-29-10 10:55 AM |
#83 |
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The law allows defensive use of deadly force even before someone who attacks you is arrested |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:59 AM |
#91 |
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most likely because of his age |
merqz |
Oct-02-10 07:20 PM |
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Cops charged the kid and released the elderly lady. |
Pirate Smile |
Sep-29-10 09:49 AM |
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And therein lies the problem. |
HughBeaumont |
Sep-29-10 10:57 AM |
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By tomorrow this will be spun as another "home invasion" successfully... |
TreasonousBastard |
Sep-29-10 09:51 AM |
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And quite accurately so |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 09:52 AM |
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Isn't that what happened? |
Upton |
Sep-29-10 09:53 AM |
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Would we feel better about it if she were injured or killed by a brick |
stray cat |
Sep-29-10 10:02 AM |
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+10000 |
Dappleganger |
Sep-29-10 10:05 AM |
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How is that not what this is? NT |
Recursion |
Sep-29-10 11:20 AM |
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The boy's family says he's completely innocent, of course. |
Marr |
Sep-29-10 09:53 AM |
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Exactly |
Pirate Smile |
Sep-29-10 09:55 AM |
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NMS Syndrome. |
HughBeaumont |
Sep-29-10 11:00 AM |
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See, as the mother of a (now-grown) son, I just don't get |
liberalhistorian |
Sep-29-10 11:12 AM |
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well, the parents can say whatever they want about their precious little hellion |
northernlights |
Sep-29-10 11:29 AM |
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Good for her |
sonomak |
Sep-29-10 09:53 AM |
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This behavior should not have happened |
get the red out |
Sep-29-10 09:53 AM |
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I've been on the receiving end of bricks thrown through windows. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-29-10 09:53 AM |
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the good news |
safeinOhio |
Sep-29-10 09:54 AM |
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"I call him the little bad boy" |
Enrique |
Sep-29-10 09:55 AM |
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I most definitely am not OK with the woman not being charged. |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 09:55 AM |
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You're half right |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 09:57 AM |
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the threat of harm needs to be imminent... |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:02 AM |
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Bricks flying through one's window seems like an imminent threat to me |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:04 AM |
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The brick was thrown and then the police were called and came and then |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:09 AM |
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"The brick"?!? |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:12 AM |
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Try this |
RamboLiberal |
Sep-29-10 10:24 AM |
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That is more information than in the article from the OP |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:30 AM |
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Let's play out the scenario. Police charge her. Find me a jury that will convict her. |
Selatius |
Sep-29-10 01:16 PM |
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Prosecutors are ethically prohibited from charging ANYBODY if |
merqz |
Oct-02-10 07:24 PM |
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It was investigated, apparently... |
hlthe2b |
Sep-29-10 10:06 AM |
#43 |
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that is information not in the article |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:32 AM |
#73 |
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did you miss the part where he was throwing bricks at her? |
WolverineDG |
Sep-29-10 11:02 AM |
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Yes |
get the red out |
Sep-29-10 09:59 AM |
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Why bother with police or courts at all then. |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:03 AM |
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She bothered with the police a lot, |
get the red out |
Sep-29-10 10:05 AM |
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As far as i can tell from the article she called them once. |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:13 AM |
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With all the damage he's & his litle gang have been doing |
RamboLiberal |
Sep-29-10 10:36 AM |
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How do you figure |
get the red out |
Sep-29-10 01:31 PM |
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Did you read the story? |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:06 AM |
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I read it thoroughly |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:11 AM |
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Kids threw bricks. Woman called cops. Cops came and left. Kids came back. |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:14 AM |
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Probably not the case here, but... |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:18 AM |
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At 11:00 PM? My parents always made me write letters of apology and mail them. |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:21 AM |
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responsible parents don't tell their children |
Riftaxe |
Sep-29-10 05:44 PM |
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Self-defense is not vigilantism. |
PavePusher |
Sep-29-10 09:39 PM |
#154 |
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Called the police again? To what end - the miscreant's behavior |
Obamanaut |
Sep-29-10 10:18 AM |
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And shooting the kid is right answer? |
tk2kewl |
Sep-29-10 10:21 AM |
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So it would seem. The kid has been charged, the woman has not. Must |
Obamanaut |
Sep-29-10 10:25 AM |
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How can you tell that someone is "in fact" in danger of being physically harmed? |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:50 AM |
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What proof do you require? |
PavePusher |
Sep-29-10 09:42 PM |
#155 |
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You still have to call them again. |
treestar |
Sep-29-10 10:59 AM |
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She shot the boy because she felt he presented an imminent threat of injury or death |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 11:02 AM |
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Yes Dear So the Cops Could Again DO NOTHING |
we can do it |
Sep-29-10 12:03 PM |
#116 |
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Throwing bricks is assault with a deadly weapon if she was in the house |
stray cat |
Sep-29-10 09:58 AM |
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And I'd be willing to bet this kid will either burn her out |
dgibby |
Sep-29-10 10:08 AM |
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The stress could very well do her in. |
lpbk2713 |
Sep-29-10 10:12 AM |
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His goal was to get her extra crispy |
sonomak |
Sep-29-10 11:12 AM |
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Ohhhh Mr. Wilsonnnnnn! |
Javaman |
Sep-29-10 10:03 AM |
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OK Javaman, you got me on that one |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:07 AM |
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She must have been at her wit's end. |
Mad_Dem_X |
Sep-29-10 10:10 AM |
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The boy's grandmother said: |
raccoon |
Sep-29-10 10:12 AM |
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She left out part of it. |
lpbk2713 |
Sep-29-10 10:23 AM |
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Yikes! |
H2O Man |
Sep-29-10 10:13 AM |
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"he shooting happened said at about 11 p.m. Tuesday" |
hedgehog |
Sep-29-10 10:16 AM |
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Good thing we still have money for guns |
gratuitous |
Sep-29-10 10:20 AM |
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''Before, they tried to burn her house down." That is a deadly threat! |
L0oniX |
Sep-29-10 10:29 AM |
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that's one way to teach him a lesson |
snooper2 |
Sep-29-10 10:31 AM |
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We have an asshole kid like that here who kills cats, dogs and ducks. |
L0oniX |
Sep-29-10 10:34 AM |
#74 |
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And what about the kids parent(s)? |
bighart |
Sep-29-10 10:53 AM |
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My neighbor who's dog was stoned by the kid told me the kid has foster parents |
L0oniX |
Sep-29-10 11:10 AM |
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That little cretin needs to disappear |
mitchum |
Sep-29-10 12:51 PM |
#120 |
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No, he probably belongs in a mental health facility. |
Selatius |
Sep-29-10 01:27 PM |
#129 |
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that's right - socio paths start out like that |
dana_b |
Sep-29-10 01:49 PM |
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But there is no "cure" for sociopaths...hence my original suggestion |
mitchum |
Sep-29-10 05:00 PM |
#141 |
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Only the .38 caliber one. n/t |
oneshooter |
Sep-29-10 05:30 PM |
#144 |
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Harassment, vandalism, starting fires.. all anti-social behavior.. |
left coaster |
Sep-29-10 10:40 AM |
#76 |
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Sometimes that is the only preventive for that inevitable recidivism |
mitchum |
Sep-29-10 05:36 PM |
#145 |
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How about calling the police, which is what happens in civilized society? |
treestar |
Sep-29-10 10:52 AM |
#79 |
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Please READ the article! She DID call the police. The police came. |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 10:53 AM |
#81 |
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Read the article, hell, just glancing at the thread header |
QC |
Sep-29-10 10:56 AM |
#85 |
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Then call them again. |
treestar |
Sep-29-10 10:58 AM |
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She DID call them again |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 11:00 AM |
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bricks are deadly. fire is deadly. there was an imminent threat |
northernlights |
Sep-29-10 12:05 PM |
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Call the police, they might show up in four hours if you are lucky. |
dogday |
Sep-29-10 11:28 AM |
#104 |
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Asshole kid is going to be another Ken McElroy |
sonomak |
Sep-29-10 10:58 AM |
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He got what was coming to him. |
frogmarch |
Sep-29-10 11:01 AM |
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Sharon Angle's 2nd Amendment remedies in action? |
Moostache |
Sep-29-10 11:19 AM |
#102 |
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so you're saying we have no right to self-defense? |
northernlights |
Sep-29-10 11:32 AM |
#106 |
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Actually, it's basic Castle Doctrine law in action |
slackmaster |
Sep-29-10 11:45 AM |
#107 |
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great post! I especially like this line: |
kelly1mm |
Sep-29-10 08:13 PM |
#151 |
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Your list full of high-minded "should haves" is great and all, |
superduperfarleft |
Sep-29-10 11:53 AM |
#112 |
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Not many poor elderly women can get the time of day from city hall |
sonomak |
Sep-29-10 11:59 AM |
#114 |
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'misguided youth'?!?? wtf are YOU smoking? n/t |
X_Digger |
Sep-29-10 02:58 PM |
#138 |
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Time to brush up at the range |
John Kerry VonErich |
Sep-29-10 11:47 AM |
#108 |
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Heh, I was about to post the same thing. |
superduperfarleft |
Sep-29-10 11:51 AM |
#110 |
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Nah, she did the right thing. The boy won't mess with her ever again after being shot. |
Selatius |
Sep-29-10 01:36 PM |
#133 |
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Wanna bet? |
John Kerry VonErich |
Sep-29-10 03:09 PM |
#139 |
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There is a good chance he will return in the future ... |
spin |
Sep-29-10 06:24 PM |
#148 |
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And stressfully adding |
John Kerry VonErich |
Sep-30-10 11:17 AM |
#169 |
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The odds are better than for alternative courses of action |
Euromutt |
Oct-04-10 02:22 AM |
#174 |
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Good for her (there may be no cure for sociopaths, but there are certainly necessary treatments) |
mitchum |
Sep-29-10 11:47 AM |
#109 |
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Where's Fire_Medic_Dave when you need him? |
Renew Deal |
Sep-29-10 12:10 PM |
#118 |
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RRRRR. Clang! Clang! Clang! |
TheCowsCameHome |
Sep-29-10 12:12 PM |
#119 |
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LOL! |
supernova |
Sep-29-10 12:58 PM |
#123 |
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TS'ed. |
closeupready |
Sep-29-10 01:06 PM |
#127 |
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What a shitty fuckin turd of a gimmick |
d_b |
Sep-30-10 01:50 AM |
#161 |
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. |
onehandle |
Sep-29-10 01:28 PM |
#130 |
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Enjoying his retirement . n/t |
oneshooter |
Oct-04-10 07:28 AM |
#175 |
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If the kid had shot a bullet through the window instead of |
Little Star |
Sep-29-10 01:03 PM |
#125 |
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Neither the police nor the parents did their jobs; 'no justice, no peace' was |
closeupready |
Sep-29-10 01:05 PM |
#126 |
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. |
onehandle |
Sep-29-10 01:29 PM |
#131 |
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Exactly |
Glassunion |
Sep-29-10 05:18 PM |
#143 |
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Whats wrong, at a loss for words? |
oneshooter |
Sep-29-10 06:50 PM |
#150 |
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If only it was permanent. |
proteus_lives |
Sep-29-10 08:26 PM |
#152 |
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I do NOT blame her, actually...It's a sad statement on the lack of parental and societal |
whathehell |
Sep-30-10 09:21 AM |
#167 |
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This was a drawn-out attempted suicide. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Oct-01-10 07:39 PM |
#170 |
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