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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 08:53 AM
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109. Holy mackerel, it's like something out of El Mariachi
For those who haven't seen the film El Mariachi (the precursor to the far more slick and much less compelling Desperado), at the start of the movie, a drug dealer nicknamed Azul is sitting out a sentence in a local jail, but he's continuing to do business via satellite phone from his cell, he's got his bodyguards in the next cell, they're all heavily armed and the cells aren't actually locked. Essentially, Azul's just going through the motions of serving his sentence so that, rather than become a fugitive indefinitely, he can satisfy the criminal justice system and be done at some point. And when he wants to, he just walks out, handing the guards a wad of cash on his way out.

"Unfortunately, in these executions, these delinquents also cowardly murdered innocent civilians," <Interior Ministry spokesman Ricardo Najera> said, adding that the inmates returned to the prison after the attack.

Emphasis mine. Is there a better alibi than "I was in prison at the time"?
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  -Seventeen party-goers shot dead in Mexico demoleft  Jul-18-10 01:20 PM   #0 
  - It makes me sick  Xipe Totec   Jul-18-10 01:28 PM   #1 
  - Prohibition: It's what's for bloody dinner. nt  SteveM   Jul-18-10 01:35 PM   #2 
  - so if drugs were legalized  davidinalameda   Jul-18-10 02:12 PM   #5 
     - Drugs should not ONLY be legalized, but  Plucketeer   Jul-18-10 02:40 PM   #6 
     - for free?  davidinalameda   Jul-18-10 07:38 PM   #18 
     - yes, for free  Plucketeer   Jul-18-10 09:05 PM   #23 
        - who pays the hospital bills when you OD?  davidinalameda   Jul-18-10 10:27 PM   #42 
        - OD on marijuana . . . ????  defendandprotect   Jul-18-10 11:55 PM   #46 
        - OH!  Plucketeer   Jul-19-10 08:32 AM   #50 
        - Overdoses are typically due to purity being unknown  Euromutt   Jul-19-10 04:39 PM   #75 
        - Liquor too?  LanternWaste   Jul-19-10 10:23 AM   #56 
           - No  Plucketeer   Jul-19-10 10:41 AM   #60 
     - Good luck with that.  Socal31   Jul-19-10 12:41 AM   #49 
     - ?????  timo   Jul-19-10 10:16 AM   #55 
        - I always check for the Made in America sticker on my weed. ;-)  Nailzberg   Jul-25-10 04:54 AM   #100 
     - yes  frylock   Jul-18-10 03:05 PM   #7 
     - That's what happened when prohibition was repealed. n/t  liquid diamond   Jul-18-10 03:38 PM   #8 
     - Yup.  Bonobo   Jul-18-10 09:06 PM   #25 
     - 100% perfectly so? no. However, government prohibition strongly empowers those behind these events  Alamuti Lotus   Jul-18-10 09:53 PM   #34 
     - Do you know what happened after we got rid of alcohol prohibition in America?  TheWraith   Jul-19-10 11:20 AM   #64 
     - Well, do you see Budweiser dealers doing drive-bys on Coors dealers these days?  benEzra   Jul-23-10 09:59 AM   #92 
     - Some of it probably would, given these are drug gangs...  SteveM   Jul-25-10 12:46 PM   #103 
  - The problem here is the guests didn't have their machine-guns with them-- !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-18-10 01:43 PM   #3 
  - So, you are not serious about this issue (sarcasm tag, & all)...  SteveM   Jul-18-10 02:04 PM   #4 
  - Please, this has nothing to do with US gun policy.  Pavulon   Jul-18-10 05:32 PM   #15 
  - Gun proliferation in the US spreads to Mexico  depakid   Jul-18-10 07:51 PM   #19 
     - I knew it had to be America's fault some how  FreakinDJ   Jul-18-10 08:17 PM   #20 
     - Just a simple fact- Mexicans get their guns from the US where they're cheap and readily available  depakid   Jul-18-10 08:31 PM   #21 
        - Machineguns? *snort*  X_Digger   Jul-18-10 08:59 PM   #22 
        - The fact remains that the overwhelming percentage of Mexican guns come from America  depakid   Jul-18-10 09:05 PM   #24 
           - Link Please. From a real source, not common dreams.(nt)  Pavulon   Jul-18-10 09:17 PM   #27 
           - I'm sure you'd prefer Fox "news" - the material is readily available- and I'm ure you've seen it  depakid   Jul-18-10 09:26 PM   #28 
              - The "material" is available and has been debunked.  TheWraith   Jul-19-10 11:25 AM   #65 
              - The wife is an E Med (shock trauma) doctor  Pavulon   Jul-19-10 04:29 PM   #74 
           - No.. the majority of guns sent to the US for tracing are from the US..  X_Digger   Jul-18-10 09:28 PM   #29 
           - Just like a climate denialist- which gun proliferators share many common characteristics with  depakid   Jul-18-10 09:31 PM   #30 
           - Now is in on it?  X_Digger   Jul-18-10 09:33 PM   #31 
           - You can argue about percentages- but not the basic facts  depakid   Jul-18-10 09:38 PM   #32 
              - Getting an accurate number is 'obfuscation'??  X_Digger   Jul-18-10 09:41 PM   #33 
                 - Arguing about percentages & using that to deny the basic fact is exactly what climate denialists do  depakid   Jul-18-10 09:53 PM   #35 
                    - When the veracity of your statement DEPENDS on an accurate percentage..  X_Digger   Jul-18-10 10:00 PM   #38 
                       - Climate denial stuff- knowing that the atmosphere is heating up doesn't depend on know exactly  depakid   Jul-18-10 10:08 PM   #40 
                          - And again you dodge. What's your source for your "80 or 90"?  X_Digger   Jul-18-10 10:11 PM   #41 
                             - These are not the droids you're looking for ..... n/t  Pullo   Jul-19-10 09:37 PM   #80 
           - He's provided us with links to *his* sources, and you have provided none  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-18-10 09:54 PM   #36 
           - Now it's pile on time  depakid   Jul-18-10 10:03 PM   #39 
              - If you make an argument, it's yours to back up. Assertion without evidence is faith, not fact.  friendly_iconoclast   Jul-18-10 10:40 PM   #44 
              - "...gun obsessed hate..." He who first smelt it dealt it -- Euripides. nt  SteveM   Jul-25-10 12:53 PM   #104 
           - Cite you evidence, or stop lying. n/t  PavePusher   Jul-19-10 12:30 PM   #67 
           - Frankly, if you'd just say "my bad, I was mistaken"...  Euromutt   Jul-24-10 09:48 AM   #95 
           - M1919 Browning  one-eyed fat man   Jul-20-10 07:57 AM   #84 
              - Thanks for the info!  X_Digger   Jul-20-10 10:47 AM   #85 
              - Not only was it widely manufactured  one-eyed fat man   Jul-22-10 06:45 PM   #86 
                 - No 17's  Katya Mullethov   Jul-24-10 07:38 AM   #94 
              - It is well past the point of "applied ignorance".....  PavePusher   Jul-24-10 11:38 AM   #96 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-19-10 12:29 PM   #66 
           - Strict gun laws don't work. It only creates a black market. Mexico is the proof.  Nailzberg   Jul-25-10 05:08 AM   #101 
              - How doubleplus ungood of you  Katya Mullethov   Jul-25-10 09:38 AM   #102 
        - They were illegal guns in Mexico  Ter   Jul-18-10 10:31 PM   #43 
        - Not true.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-19-10 09:48 AM   #54 
     - Sorry. Select fire (machine guns) are not available here  Pavulon   Jul-18-10 09:16 PM   #26 
     - Where in the U.S. did they get machine-guns?  proteus_lives   Jul-18-10 09:56 PM   #37 
     - From the US Supreme Court . . . right?  defendandprotect   Jul-18-10 11:53 PM   #45 
        - LMAO!!!  slackmaster   Jul-19-10 09:16 AM   #51 
        - Your failure is epic and amusing!  proteus_lives   Jul-19-10 11:03 AM   #62 
     - They didn't buy those full-auto guns at American gun shows. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Jul-19-10 09:44 AM   #52 
     - They sell full autos at gun shows?  Xenotime   Jul-19-10 11:18 AM   #63 
     - Pray tell, how would you get a machinegun in the US?  Recursion   Jul-19-10 10:26 AM   #58 
        - Look in the Yellow Pages under "Drug War" . . . ???  defendandprotect   Jul-19-10 05:49 PM   #76 
           - All ya gotta do is ask  Katya Mullethov   Jul-22-10 07:06 PM   #88 
           - There is a 1945 MG42 for sale on Gunbroker last week  oneshooter   Jul-24-10 11:54 AM   #97 
              - That "might" be negotiable  Katya Mullethov   Jul-24-10 06:33 PM   #98 
           - Look into Yellow Journalism where kids are reported to have MACHINE GUNS!  SteveM   Jul-25-10 01:02 PM   #105 
  - Mexico has very strict gun laws  DissedByBush   Jul-18-10 06:05 PM   #16 
     - And these laws are largely ignored  S_B_Jackson   Jul-18-10 07:30 PM   #17 
     - Don't forget that there is only ONE legal gun shop  oneshooter   Jul-19-10 02:26 PM   #72 
     - UCAM  Xela   Jul-19-10 06:00 PM   #78 
        - Edit - CZ 550 (not CZ 452)  Xela   Jul-23-10 09:35 AM   #91 
     - Easy there...  Xela   Jul-19-10 06:04 PM   #79 
        - And you have to travel to Mexico City to buy it.  GreenStormCloud   Jul-19-10 10:04 PM   #81 
           - Gotta love the loop holes though...  Xela   Jul-20-10 02:03 AM   #82 
  - Massacre at Party in Mexico, 17 Dead  RamboLiberal   Jul-18-10 05:30 PM   #9 
  - we used to go to northern mexico a more!  w8liftinglady   Jul-18-10 05:30 PM   #10 
  - Right . . . this is also an excellent way to make the world safe for the violent . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-18-10 11:56 PM   #48 
     - You might be interested in reading the latest Texas Monthly...  SteveM   Jul-25-10 01:12 PM   #106 
        - It is........ most unfortunate  Katya Mullethov   Jul-26-10 06:21 PM   #112 
  - Which of the following nations is the safest for Americans to visit: Iraq, Afghanistan, Mexico?  VermeerLives   Jul-18-10 05:30 PM   #11 
  - Still Mexico by far  kenny blankenship   Jul-18-10 05:30 PM   #12 
  - dupe n/t  WhiteTara   Jul-18-10 05:30 PM   #13 
  - Massacre at Party in Mexico, 17 Dead  RamboLiberal   Jul-18-10 05:30 PM   #14 
  - This happened only a few months back too. That shooting was at a party also  superconnected   Jul-18-10 11:56 PM   #47 
  - Those gin-runners are ruthless!  Romulox   Jul-19-10 09:47 AM   #53 
  - Remove all prohibitions?  LanternWaste   Jul-19-10 10:24 AM   #57 
     - I think it is CRUCIAL that we prohibit hyperbole and straw men arguments.  Romulox   Jul-19-10 10:26 AM   #59 
        - "On penalty of catapult" Can't get a permit for that in Chicago. n/t  oneshooter   Jul-19-10 02:28 PM   #73 
  - I so wish that there were people who would  bitchkitty   Jul-19-10 10:52 AM   #61 
  - This is a very scary incident. It would appear by the news articles  Hoopla Phil   Jul-19-10 12:44 PM   #68 
  - They bumped it up a notch at the end of last week  Katya Mullethov   Jul-19-10 01:36 PM   #69 
  - Or we could legalize drugs which would bankrupt the cartels. N/T  GreenStormCloud   Jul-19-10 01:52 PM   #70 
     - Yep, that could do it too.  Hoopla Phil   Jul-19-10 01:58 PM   #71 
     - Why not. Our War on Drugs has been, is and will be a total failure. (n/t)  spin   Jul-19-10 05:56 PM   #77 
        - not for the agencies and industry that profits from it.  Caliman73   Jul-26-10 03:02 PM   #110 
  - This thread should be moved to the section dealing with drug policy, this has nothing to do w/ guns  Nomorehannity   Jul-20-10 03:43 AM   #83 
  - It does in the sense that Mexcio and our administration ...  spin   Jul-22-10 07:06 PM   #87 
     - The word from the top is................... -Prohibition is working-  Katya Mullethov   Jul-22-10 08:17 PM   #89 
        - Prohibiting items never seems to work...  spin   Jul-22-10 08:44 PM   #90 
           - But that isnt the official story  Katya Mullethov   Jul-23-10 07:09 PM   #93 
              - The only thing I can suggest...  spin   Jul-24-10 06:46 PM   #99 
  - update - Mexican prison officials released inmates AND provided weapons/transport  Tejas   Jul-26-10 06:04 AM   #107 
     - Now wait a minute, that..  X_Digger   Jul-26-10 07:59 AM   #108 
     - Holy mackerel, it's like something out of El Mariachi  Euromutt   Jul-26-10 08:53 AM   #109 
     - Now Now DON'T INTRODUCE INCONVENIENT FACTS TO THE THREAD  virginia mountainman   Jul-26-10 04:38 PM   #111 

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