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Sun Jul-18-10 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #38 |
| 39. That would be the political route. It is much less efficient. |
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An enlightened Court drags society forward kicking and screaming, but ultimately for its own good.
Shelly v. Kramer predated the Civil Rights Act by sixteen years and Brown v. Board of Ed. predated it by eleven.
The judiciary leads the way because the People and their elected representatives are too fearful, ignorant and bigoted to make much progress on their own.
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| -Uniformed Chicago officer is shot, killed |
MichaelHarris |
Jul-18-10 09:49 PM |
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"reality" eh? I see your anecdote and raise you one |
X_Digger |
Jul-18-10 09:54 PM |
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This story illustrates the prevalence of guns in the hands of the public. Not good. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 09:57 PM |
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"the public"??? The bad guys get guns regardless of whether "the public" are allowed to. |
Better Today |
Jul-18-10 10:00 PM |
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Do guns come off the assembly line bound for the bad guys? |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 10:10 PM |
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Except that everywhere I've lived where guns are easy to obtain, the crime is less than |
Better Today |
Jul-18-10 10:18 PM |
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My experience is precisely the opposite. Guns embolden crime and cause people to make bad choices. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 10:24 PM |
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Then try to answer this |
cowman |
Jul-18-10 10:32 PM |
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The moment of conversion for an officer comes when he is fatally shot. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 10:35 PM |
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Over the years |
cowman |
Jul-18-10 10:45 PM |
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Yes, of course, it is axiomatic that shooting a peace officer is unlawful. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 10:55 PM |
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nope not a slow learner |
cowman |
Jul-18-10 10:57 PM |
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You attribute too much power to my views if you think I can inflict death with them. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 11:04 PM |
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Not until you get your way |
Katya Mullethov |
Jul-18-10 11:07 PM |
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I don't attribute anything to you |
cowman |
Jul-18-10 11:08 PM |
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Then why point to ME as illustrating some kind of equivalency between the 1A and 2A? |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 11:17 PM |
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My point is |
cowman |
Jul-18-10 11:21 PM |
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You're correct that I don't get to pick. But the judiciary does. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 11:29 PM |
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You don't get to "fillet" a portion of the BoR, period. That is why there is an amendment |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 11:32 PM |
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That would be the political route. It is much less efficient. |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 11:42 PM |
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Irregardless of your obfuscation. The judiciary cannot "fillet" out a part of |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 11:45 PM |
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That is not a "political rout" that is the law as it is written. Too bad it is |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 11:47 PM |
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Judges |
Nuclear Unicorn |
Jul-20-10 10:52 AM |
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So now you claim to know the last thoughts of the dead? |
PavePusher |
Jul-18-10 10:54 PM |
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Does the final thought instead go How Thankful I Am For The Right Of The Public To Own Guns? |
sharesunited |
Jul-18-10 11:01 PM |
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Riiiiight |
cowman |
Jul-18-10 11:04 PM |
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Ah. That's what was missing. |
rrneck |
Jul-18-10 11:23 PM |
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Explain, IN CONCRETE TERMS, how they do that. nt |
rrneck |
Jul-18-10 10:48 PM |
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...which makes Zurich the 'Chicago' of Europe, of course. |
Francis Marion |
Jul-19-10 03:42 AM |
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Here let me fix that for you |
cowman |
Jul-18-10 10:23 PM |
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Yes, some guns certainly do. |
one-eyed fat man |
Jul-19-10 07:57 AM |
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No, scaresunited also believes that drug prohibition works, too. |
X_Digger |
Jul-18-10 10:24 PM |
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Well that explains alot. |
Better Today |
Jul-18-10 11:00 PM |
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Hey liar, ever going to answer that PM? |
proteus_lives |
Jul-18-10 10:11 PM |
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"The public" is racist code-speak for black people and other minorities |
slackmaster |
Jul-19-10 09:50 AM |
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Whoa, How can you say this |
inenemyterritory |
Jul-18-10 10:03 PM |
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"This is the reality of concealed carry, bad guys are ready to shoot, you aren't." |
proteus_lives |
Jul-18-10 10:11 PM |
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was shot . . . after an overnight shift guarding Mayor Richard Daley's house. |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 10:11 PM |
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He identified himself as an officer before exchanging gunfire |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 10:12 PM |
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Bailey's son, Michael, was home, grabbed one of his father's guns and ran outside to defend his dad, |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 10:13 PM |
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Three guns were found at the scene, one of them belonging to Bailey |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 10:15 PM |
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The Bailey and Wortham shootings have striking similarities. |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 10:16 PM |
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"It's devastating. ... It's like a war out here. |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 10:18 PM |
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Humm, this may have been a targeted hit after all. |
Hoopla Phil |
Jul-18-10 10:21 PM |
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I see nothing about CCW in the Tribune report |
doc03 |
Jul-18-10 10:22 PM |
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-1 to you for assumption of facts not in evidence. |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jul-18-10 10:22 PM |
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No one ever said it was a guarantee |
Taitertots |
Jul-19-10 07:27 AM |
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I'm betting it was a hit. |
jeepnstein |
Jul-19-10 07:41 AM |
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Less to do with Chicago (still existing) Gun Ban - More to do with Daley ... |
DonP |
Jul-19-10 10:26 AM |
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